Glock 26: can this become a serious problem?


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Ignacio49
March 29, 2012, 01:00 PM
I just bought a used G26. It is an old 2.5 generation that seemed to be in perfect condition.

I noticed that sometimes it is difficult to field strip this gun, as the slide does not come forward. I am no new to Glocks, and know well how to take it down - magazine out, trigger pulled, slide block pushed down. At this point the slide comes forward just a bit, enough to clear the slide block, but does not want to easily come forward any more. I have to use force to make it move forward.

Upon detailed inspection I noticed some marks/wear in the frame, right where the recoil spring meets the barrel. It seems that after some “action” (like racking the slide a few times) the edge of the recoil spring assembly does not stay fully seated in the barrel groove, but moves out of it and starts rubbing the frame, which causes the wear/rough spot which in turn does not allow the slide to move freely.

I have tried the frame with a different recoil spring, a different barrel, a different slide (and all possible combination of these parts) with the same results – recoil spring seems to move out of position and rub the frame.

You can see the pics below. Last two were taken to “simulate” what I believe the problem is: “in position” and “out of position”

I am not sure if this could become a major problem.
Any suggestions what to do to fix it?

Thanks for your help.

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/Gonfis/G26prob/G26prob1.jpg

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/Gonfis/G26prob/G26prob2.jpg

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/Gonfis/G26prob/G26prob3.jpg

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/Gonfis/G26prob/G26prob4.jpg

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/Gonfis/G26prob/G26prob5a.jpg

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/Gonfis/G26prob/G26prob6a.jpg

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NG VI
March 29, 2012, 01:22 PM
May sound like a simple(ton) question, but are you retracting the slide before pulling down the tabs?

I'm not sure about the recoil assembly marking inside the frame. Might be time to buy it a new assembly, I don't think they cost much. Good to have a spare or two around anyway.

David E
March 29, 2012, 01:33 PM
That's not causing the wear. That part of the recoil spring assembly is nowhere near that part of the frame when assembled.

The FRONT part of the assembly is, tho, when the larger diameter section comes back in recoil.

If you've tried a different barrel, recoil assembly, etc, then that would indicate a problem with the frame itself or the parts therein.

All I can determine from your pics and post is, it's not being caused by what you think.

Call Glock.

Prince Yamato
March 29, 2012, 02:13 PM
Those marks on the frame are normal. I noticed them when I first bought my new G26 years ago and called Glock. It's where the spring touches the frame. It's nothing to worry about. If you call and ask Glock, they will tell you the same.

As far as field stripping; after you push down the tabs, you should pull the slide back a little and let the springs aide you in pushing off the slide.

allaroundhunter
March 29, 2012, 02:31 PM
Ignacio, my Gen 2 G19 is doing the same thing as far as the slide not wanting to come off. It just started happening recently, but I have actually not been able to remove the slide since it started. I am planning on taking it in to a gunsmith to have it looked over here soon when I get a chance...

David E
March 29, 2012, 02:35 PM
None of my Glox display those marks.

Ignacio49
March 29, 2012, 03:55 PM
" David E:
That's not causing the wear. That part of the recoil spring assembly is nowhere near that part of the frame when assembled.

The FRONT part of the assembly is, tho, when the larger diameter section comes back in recoil..."

You are right David E!

I compared it with another G26. I took a pic to show where the large diameter section would be when in full recoil. It clearly shows what you say.

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/Gonfis/G26prob/G26probcompare.jpg

nater762
March 29, 2012, 05:19 PM
Those gouges are caused from disassembly. To avoid the rear of the mainspring from falling out of place and contacting the frame only pull the slide the tinniest bit back to unlock.

Ignacio49
March 29, 2012, 09:40 PM
I played around with the RSA, trying to figure out how it can cause the wear.

I am not sure that the front side can do it. There are no sharp edges that can cause that type wear, except for the end of the wire, and that is a tiny spot.

The only other option I can think of is the rear edge (metal) of the RSA. It comes out of position, digs into the frame, and being a sharp edge damages the frame when forcing the slide to come out during field strip. I can not think of any other possible cause.

nater762
March 29, 2012, 10:46 PM
Yep, that's it! But if you pull the slide back just enough to to pull down the slide stop down, maybe about a 1/10", the rear of the spring will not fall out of place. Give her just enough to win the turkey :)

Feanor
March 29, 2012, 11:12 PM
The marks are normal, my two G26's have them, and in fact they've had them since new.

Ignacio49
March 29, 2012, 11:36 PM
Well..... I am pretty sure it is the rear edge (metal) of the RSA coming out of place.

If I cicle the slide vigorously a few times and then try to field strip, I get the problem. Then, if I hit my hand with the pistol (slide side), strong enough to get the rear edge of the RSA back in place (thanks to inertia) I can field strip it with no problem.

Now, I tried the other barrel again. No matter how strong I cicle it I can not get the rod edge to dig into the frame, and I can pull out the slide smoothly. I noticed that the rear edge of the slide is almost out of the barrel notch, but somehow I do not get the problem.

Comments?

David E
March 29, 2012, 11:58 PM
Well..... I am pretty sure it is the rear edge (metal) of the RSA coming out of place.

Comments?

It's already been pointed out that the rear edge of the RSA is nowhere near that part of the frame when it cycles, so cannot be causing the problem when the gun "cicles."

Call Glock.

nater762
March 30, 2012, 12:09 AM
Geez...why bother? Lol

Doug S
March 30, 2012, 12:14 AM
As some of the others have said, those marks are not uncommon in Glocks. My G26 has marks in the same area. If you're still concerned, simply call Glock and have them confirm or deny.

nater762
March 30, 2012, 12:16 AM
Here, check out his guys vids, he shows the problem then the fix...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtTihq0aZX0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IurJlSSXjI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

allaroundhunter
March 30, 2012, 12:42 AM
Here, check out his guys vids, he shows the problem then the fix...

That actually is neither the problem, nor the fix...

nater762
March 30, 2012, 12:54 AM
That actually is neither the problem, nor the fix...
From what is in his pics yes it is! Mine does the same thing if you pull the slide back to far during take down.

Ignacio49
March 30, 2012, 09:47 AM
It's already been pointed out that the rear edge of the RSA is nowhere near that part of the frame when it cycles, so cannot be causing the problem when the gun "cicles."
.....

I agree. At this point I am pretty sure there is no problem when the gun cicles, except that the edge of the RSA comes out of position and digs into the frame - so far no problem. But then the wear is caused when forcing the slide forward during field strip. The RSA edge is forced against the frame and "cuts" it.

Ignacio49
March 30, 2012, 09:55 AM
From what is in his pics yes it is! Mine does the same thing if you pull the slide back to far during take down.

Nater, the problem happens even when pulling the slide back just a short bit enough to clear the lock.

nater762
March 30, 2012, 10:38 AM
I would try to grind a small flat to one side to the rear of the RSA and make sure to set it down during reassembly...just a tinny one

Ignacio49
March 30, 2012, 10:47 AM
I would try to grind a small flat to one side to the rear of the RSA and make sure to set it down during reassembly...just a tinny one

You mean flattening a bit a small part of the edge, and make sure that this flat area faces the grip when reassembly, so that it slides and do not dig?

ku4hx
March 30, 2012, 11:11 AM
Stop guessing and call Glock; my 26 after approximately 2,000 rounds is like new ... nothing like this. But it looks to me your assembling the gun with the RSA not being fully seated into its cradle at the chamber end of the gun. That would make it ride high (or low depending on perspective) and maybe scrape the frame. But the force needed to do that would be considerably more than is normal for Glock reassembly and you would have noticed it.

Grinding the RSA is equivalent to making a custom part. One of the desirable features of Glocks is parts interchangeability. Why would you want to modify it such that if that part fails you can't just buy a new or, or get one from a buddy and use it? Seems self defeating to to me and makes repairs or simple spring replacements as recommended by Glock a science project and not a simple 30 second job.

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