Ruger Mark III 22 45


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Newb223
March 30, 2012, 10:05 AM
So I went out and bought the cheapest version of the 22 45 that was out. I thought about the more expensive ones, but couldn't rationalize spending the extra money on a little .22.

In any case, I'm the type of person that likes to tinker with new toys. I pulled that thing apart in about 30 minutes. Almost the whole thing minus the trigger assembly. Came apart easy enough, going back together was another story all together.

It took me about a week to get it back together functioning. I actually just completed it last night at about 10pm. Who would have guessed it would be that difficult. I still need to test fire it, so here's hoping it doesn't blow up in my face.

On a side note, there is only one website that I found that gives a good breakdown of how to disassemble and reassemble the entire gun. This is the link to that site:

http://www.guntalk-online.com/detailstrip.htm#trigger

The reason that I am putting it on here, is that there are not nearly enough places to find this page.

Also, if i had it to do over again, I would probably go with a more expensive stainless model with the "normal" grips. Although I don't really have a reason for it, since I haven't actually shot a "normal" one.

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ku4hx
March 30, 2012, 10:26 AM
Another useful site:
http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/index.htm

1KPerDay
March 30, 2012, 12:24 PM
Great pistol. Bullseye's site is invaluable.

FYI there are ways to get replaceable grips on the cheap version if you want.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=651109&highlight=kingshouse

Also I recommend you remove the magazine disconnect safety and install a Clark hammer bushing (or even a ruger MKII bushing). that will improve your trigger pull, make the mags jump out of the gun when you press the mag release, and GREATLY simplify the dis/reassembly procedure. No more "mag in, mag out... mag in, mag out" crap.

Also, the Volquartsen trigger and sear are EXTREMELY worthwhile upgrades. :cool:

StrutStopper
March 30, 2012, 01:26 PM
I do think those guns have the ability to toy with you. Everything seems to be difficult as far as reassembly is concerned. One minute you're pulling your hair out trying to do something then when you seemingly do nothing different it eases into place as though it were self guided. Monday night I was frustrated and tired wondering how somehow I missed getting the hammer strut in place while reinserting the mainspring assembly and it wouldn't budge when I tried to dissassemble. Vaguely recalling a thread on a different site about the same issue I went to bed and hit it the next day. Within 30 seconds the gun was apart, back together, and functioning normally. Maybe next time things will go smooth?? After another 1000 rounds or so I'll find out.

Newb223
March 30, 2012, 02:07 PM
Another useful site:
http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/index.htm
ku4hx that does look like a useful site, but doesn't look like it is 22 45 specifically. The 22 45 has some different parts.

Newb223
March 30, 2012, 02:09 PM
Great pistol. Bullseye's site is invaluable.

FYI there are ways to get replaceable grips on the cheap version if you want.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=651109&highlight=kingshouse

Also I recommend you remove the magazine disconnect safety and install a Clark hammer bushing (or even a ruger MKII bushing). that will improve your trigger pull, make the mags jump out of the gun when you press the mag release, and GREATLY simplify the dis/reassembly procedure. No more "mag in, mag out... mag in, mag out" crap.

Also, the Volquartsen trigger and sear are EXTREMELY worthwhile upgrades. :cool:
That is originally why I dug into the guts of the gun. It appears though that I need some more lessons on how to do that with the 22 45 specifically. If you know anywhere to find detailed instructions, I would be very interested. Perhaps links to the parts I would need as well would be very helpful.

1KPerDay
March 30, 2012, 02:13 PM
try a search at the rimfirecentral.com forums. Lots of people there have done it. I sent mine out to kingshouse (see the vid) because I wanted it perfect. Cost $46 including return shipping.

jef2015
March 30, 2012, 02:17 PM
I will suggest a combination youtube and the owners manual for assembly/ disassembly. I have taken mine apart 4 times and can actually do it without instruction now.
RimfireCentral is a good place for information on the Rugers.

Newb223
March 30, 2012, 03:20 PM
I find it rather difficult to find 22 45 specific sites on the net in general. Lots on the normal Mark III though.

1KPerDay
March 30, 2012, 03:41 PM
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=211

Newb223
April 2, 2012, 05:12 PM
Does anyone have some worthwhile internal upgrades they would recommend? I am not looking at the V trigger set up just yet. Was thinking the Sear and some other cheaper things. I already put a new front site on it.

1KPerDay
April 2, 2012, 05:14 PM
Does anyone have some worthwhile internal upgrades they would recommend?
Yeah. See post #3 above. :D

JustinJ
April 2, 2012, 05:20 PM
The first time i tried to reassemble my Mark III i was lost. Then i did the unthinkable...looked at the manual and five minutes later it was good to go.

25cschaefer
April 2, 2012, 05:23 PM
Majestic Arms sells a Speed Strip Kit so it only takes an allen key to take apart.

kludge
April 2, 2012, 05:36 PM
We (the wifey and I) got the 22/45 with the cocobolo grips... makes a huge difference. The grips changed the gun from "no way would I buy this" to "that's feels really nice."

I still like my Buckmark better though.

As for the traditional grip angle of the Mark III, I'm not a fan.

ColtPythonElite
April 2, 2012, 05:54 PM
IMO, the best upgrade is the VQ sear. They are only 25 bucks and can be installed in just a few minutes. Personally, I would skip on the VQ trigger and install a set screw in the front of the trigger (under the pin axle) to adjust pre-travel.

1KPerDay
April 2, 2012, 06:21 PM
Majestic Arms sells a Speed Strip Kit so it only takes an allen key to take apart.
Removing the bolt and taking the pistol apart are two separate things. The MK rugers are pretty straightforward if you have a basic understanding of mechanical things and can read and follow directions. After the first couple of times reading the directions, I can now field strip and reassemble mine without further consultation of the manual. :D

Jolly Rogers
April 2, 2012, 07:07 PM
http://guntalk-online.com/

Another good sight that has 22/45 specific information. See the service pages and the 22 rimfire forums.
Joe

DC Plumber
April 2, 2012, 07:41 PM
I have a blue Mark III 22/45 with the 4" slab side barrel, fixed sights. Love it. Cost me $179 new about 5 or 6 years ago. Best plinking gun I've ever owned. More accurate than me, though we are consistently hitting the steel gong at 100 yards. Tons of fun.

Dentite
April 3, 2012, 12:15 AM
Love mine. I've made a few modifications and I've had it stripped down at least once and I didn't think it was exceptionally hard to get back together. I relyed on that site you posted as well...very useful.

Hope yours treats you well and you enjoy it.

Pilot
April 3, 2012, 06:35 AM
Aren't the internals of the MK III, and 22/45 (MK III era) the same? Wouldn't instructions be similar for both?

I only have MK II's, so really don't know.

bri
April 3, 2012, 09:30 AM
The first time i tried to reassemble my Mark III i was lost. Then i did the unthinkable...looked at the manual and five minutes later it was good to go.
+1. The owners manual clearly defines the entire process.

I sent my 22/45 to kingshouse as well, highly recommend him.

Grip mod
hammer bushing (& grind/polish hammer)
pretravel screw install
slingshot mod
VQ sear install
$72

Trigger pull is amazingly crisp, probably around 2lbs or so now. I also removed the LCI and installed a filler plate:

http://wannatonka.com/pics/guns/ruger_mk3/kingshouse_1.jpg

http://wannatonka.com/pics/guns/ruger_mk3/kingshouse_2.jpg

Newb223
April 4, 2012, 10:59 AM
Yeah. See post #3 above. :D
I bought the Mark II bushing (at least I think it is the right part) doesn't seem to work right.

Newb223
April 4, 2012, 12:05 PM
Great pistol. Bullseye's site is invaluable.

FYI there are ways to get replaceable grips on the cheap version if you want.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=651109&highlight=kingshouse

Also I recommend you remove the magazine disconnect safety and install a Clark hammer bushing (or even a ruger MKII bushing). that will improve your trigger pull, make the mags jump out of the gun when you press the mag release, and GREATLY simplify the dis/reassembly procedure. No more "mag in, mag out... mag in, mag out" crap.

Also, the Volquartsen trigger and sear are EXTREMELY worthwhile upgrades. :cool:
Whats the part number for the bushing?

1KPerDay
April 4, 2012, 01:11 PM
I bought the Mark II bushing (at least I think it is the right part) doesn't seem to work right.
It was a beeyatch to fit the Clark one to my hammer (had to sand down the diameter of the bushing) but it worked. What problems are you having?

Newb, the clark hammer bushing is part CLK-517 (for the 22/45). dunno about the ruger part.

More info here fyi
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371927

particularly see the pics top of this page
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364518&highlight=517+1kperday&page=3

1KPerDay
April 4, 2012, 01:13 PM
http://www.rimfiresports.com/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RSC&Category_Code=VC2

good prices here for ruger/Volquartsen stuff fyi

CoRoMo
April 4, 2012, 01:27 PM
I bought the Mark II bushing (at least I think it is the right part) doesn't seem to work right.
I used a couple stainless steel washers from Ace Hardware on the Mk III bushing. Runs like a top too. That dang mag safety was the first thing to go, and Bullseye57's sight was all I needed to find my way around this pistol.

Here's a video of how it's done:

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWHEMJDFBSc)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E35jZoQKmUk&feature=relmfu)
Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHvqApQTcss&feature=relmfu)

Newb223
April 4, 2012, 04:17 PM
What do I have to do to install the Mark II Bushing? Do I just leave that spring out and the other metal part?

1KPerDay
April 4, 2012, 04:47 PM
If you're replacing the factory mag safety, yes. You remove the spacer and spring thing that is currently residing against the right side of the hammer, and the barrel/tube that holds it together (save all your OEM parts so you can return it to factory specs if you sell it or give it away). Replace them with the MKII hammer bushing. There will be a space between the "washer" of the bushing (the flat outer portion) and the hammer on the bottom edge, but the top edge will contact the side of the hammer and space it properly. See the pics in that link I posted.

http://www.guntalk-online.com/images/m3innomen.JPG

Blue68f100
April 4, 2012, 06:43 PM
You have a lot of options on the Ruger's MK's. The Clark MKII Hammer Bushing is the best choice it you want to remove the mag disc. The Clark is oversize and will fit the hammer tightly removing 1 rotating point on the hammer. Which in turn removes trigger creep. Throw a VQ Sear in and maybe their hammer and your set. Once thing the Clark bushing does that the std bushing does not is limit the sear engagement.

The LCI has been know to cause stove pipes when it gets dirty. This must be kept clean and dry. I use it as a indicator when it times to Detail clean the gun. Don't detail clean it ever time you shoot. It only needs it about 2k-2500 rounds.

You will love the trigger once the work is done. I have to warn anyone on how smooth and light my trigger is. Normally I let them dry fire so they now what to expect.

I have a dot sight on mine a life saver for aging eyes.

22's are picky when it comes to ammo. Find what yours like. My best hunting round is a American Eagle 38gr HV HP. Just stay away from Hyper Velocity, and be aware that Rem Thunderbolts are know to lead barrel. Mine likes the cheap Fed Bulk for plinking.

Enjoy your 22/45.

1KPerDay
April 4, 2012, 06:49 PM
Once thing the Clark bushing does that the std bushing does not is limit the sear engagement.
This is a big reason why I got the clark and put up with the headache of installing it. I tried the washer method but trigger creep was way worse afterward. The outer diameter of the clark hammer bushing spaces the sear properly.

My 22/45 trigger now rivals my Browning Challenger, and that's saying something.

As for the LCI, it's easy enough to remove or disable--not that I would recommend such a thing-- (or you can buy space fillers if you're the litigious type).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBAe8sgc8EA

The War Wagon
April 5, 2012, 11:42 AM
"RE-assembly" is a common complaint of Mk.III owners. I understand a Ph.D. in Mechanical Engineering helps. :o

That said, I plan on just using a LOTTA q-tips and cleaning the bore, until I feel the need to remove the grips and finally soak it in "something." And PRAY that that works! :uhoh:

1KPerDay
April 5, 2012, 12:05 PM
What problems are you having, War Wagon? I've reviewed this thread and don't see anything mentioned. Field stripping/cleaning/reassembly is not a big deal. Detail stripping is a bit more involved, but still very straightforward. I'd rather take this gun apart than a series 80 colt, for example. Getting those 80 trigger bits back in correctly is fiddly.

micdude
April 5, 2012, 12:06 PM
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/micdude/bush-1.jpg

hammer bushings and hammers

ColtPythonElite
April 6, 2012, 08:20 AM
"RE-assembly" is a common complaint of Mk.III owners. I understand a Ph.D. in Mechanical Engineering helps. :o

That said, I plan on just using a LOTTA q-tips and cleaning the bore, until I feel the need to remove the grips and finally soak it in "something." And PRAY that that works! :uhoh:
Field stripping is a piece of cake once you learn the positions the hammer and hammer strut have to be in for the gun to go back together. I've never timed myself, but bet I can strip and reassemble one in under 2 minutes....They really are simple guns.

The War Wagon
April 6, 2012, 09:07 AM
What problems are you having, War Wagon?

NONE, so far! Reading threads like this from other owners on other boards though, has sufficiently intimidated from attempting to take it apart yet.

Having owned it for almost two years now, I FINALLY shot it about 3 weeks ago. Put 8 mags through it with nary a hitch. No major breakdown and cleanup needed as yet, but I'm still trying to steel myself for that eventuality. :o

1KPerDay
April 6, 2012, 12:00 PM
It really isn't that bad. Field stripping/cleaning (if necessary) and reassembly is not a big deal. Just follow the directions. The hammer strut is really the only thing you have to pay attention to. And if you have a concept of how the pistol works, it's quite a logical process to reassemble correctly.

Reading some of the posts on the net you'd get the impression it was like reprogramming the computers on Apollo 13 or something. LOL

Thanks for the pic, micdude! :cool:

GLOOB
April 7, 2012, 04:05 AM
I woulda been one of the first to agree how easy it is. No problems with my brand new MkIII, first time, second time, or any time. Esp after removing the mag disconnect. Field stripping the gun is downright fun, to me. The only tool I need is an empty 22LR case to pop the lever.

But the first time I cleaned my buddy's MkIII, boy that was a royal PITA. Needed to improvise some tools to lever the mainspring tensioner out the back of the grip. The hammer didn't want to lay right to get the bolt back in. The receiver didn't want to line up with the frame just right to get the pin back in. And relearning the darn mag dance to get the hammer and strut set right didn't do me any favors. If that had been my first encounter, I would be singing a different tune.

Fishslayer
April 7, 2012, 10:49 PM
Then i did the unthinkable...looked at the manual and five minutes later it was good to go.

Man card revoked!:evil:

Newb223
April 9, 2012, 12:38 PM
http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo43/micdude/bush-1.jpg

hammer bushings and hammers
What about Mark II bushing with Mark III Hammer?

Newb223
April 9, 2012, 12:45 PM
The field stripping is easy. It's when you get into the the lower that things took a turn for IDK what's going on.

1KPerDay
April 9, 2012, 12:59 PM
What about Mark II bushing with Mark III Hammer?
see the middle example. MKIII hammer with the clark MKII bushing. The factory MKII bushing will also work on MKIII hammers.

Newb223
April 10, 2012, 04:12 PM
see the middle example. MKIII hammer with the clark MKII bushing. The factory MKII bushing will also work on MKIII hammers.
So that's it, just leave all the other crap out and stuff it in there?

1KPerDay
April 10, 2012, 05:27 PM
Pretty much, yeah. A clark bushing may have to be fitted. Mine was a beeyatch to install. A ruger bushing should be cake.

Dentite
April 11, 2012, 12:04 PM
I put a Clark MkII bushing in my MkIII. There is going to be some variation in how tight it fits from needed to be pressed on, tapped on, or loose (loose is not what you want).

Mine was a nice tight fit but not so tight I couldn't get it on. I guess I got lucky in that regard.

Frankl03
April 11, 2012, 01:01 PM
I installed a VQ trigger, sear and the Clark hammer bushing in my MKIII. Runs like a top now, trigger is about 2 lbs. I originally put in a MKII bushing but my gun didn't run that well with it.

Field stripping is no big deal and can be done in minutes! The first couple of times it was a bear!

Have fun!

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