New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg on CBS


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Sky
March 30, 2012, 10:31 PM
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2012/03/29/cbs-enables-nyc-mayor-bloomberg-push-gun-control

The mayor forwarded a beyond irrational argument against armed self defense: "Somebody's banging on your door and says, I'm going to come in and kill you...And this guy's got the gun out...You're better off not having a gun."

OK whatever you say Mr. Mayor

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armoredman
March 30, 2012, 11:03 PM
I would think a recall election would be in order, for demonstrated mental deficiency. His statements indicate a clear divorce from reality.

dodo bird
March 30, 2012, 11:24 PM
I think we should ban private swimming pools as well. Owning your own swimming pool gets you more than 22 times liikely of drowning. I blame the people who voted this guy in. .

SleazyRider
March 30, 2012, 11:29 PM
Uh-oh. I smell yet another New York bashing thread.

dodo bird
March 30, 2012, 11:42 PM
You cant blame the people of Texas for voting that guy in.

TurtlePhish
March 31, 2012, 12:17 AM
Bloomberg is ridiculous... I think we should all be glad this is his last term.

Pat M
March 31, 2012, 12:33 AM
Yeah, unless he changes the election laws again to run for another term. I would not be surprised.

Certaindeaf
March 31, 2012, 12:46 AM
If you repeat something often enough, it becomes the "truth". Brainwashing at its simplest.

tyeo098
March 31, 2012, 01:11 AM
If you repeat something often enough, it becomes the "truth". Brainwashing at its simplest.
Yeah. Just look at how everyone thinks of New York.

True, there is a city called New York, but attached to the city is the little part called the rest of the state. In comparison to to NYC the rest of the state is a gun owners paradise.

Leanwolf
March 31, 2012, 01:28 AM
Bloomberg is a typical mega-rich left wing "progressive" hypocrite. He is constantly surrounded by heavily armed bodyguards to protect him and his family, yet he tells us worker peasants and serfs to never protect ourselves against vicious criminals. And he crusades for laws to disarm us (but not his heavily armed bodyguards).

Nothing but a raving hypocrite!

L.W.

Certaindeaf
March 31, 2012, 01:35 AM
Yeah. Just look at how everyone thinks of New York..

True. Everyone thinks we all live in log cabins over here. That's just the way it goes.

fxstchewy
March 31, 2012, 07:50 AM
Bloomberg is nothing but a idiot, if i never heard his name mention again that would be fine with me.

303tom
March 31, 2012, 07:57 AM
Bloomberg is a (IDIOT).......................

CmpsdNoMore
March 31, 2012, 10:16 AM
"Let me find the gun, where'd I put the ammunition, where'd i put the key?"- Bloomberg

Um... In a free society I don't have to worry about this. Even with having to lock up a firearm at night due to kids, it takes maybe 15 to 30 seconds max to get to my firearm.

I'll take my chances rather than lay down and give in to whoever may want to harm my wife and myself. Thank you

Silas
March 31, 2012, 10:49 AM
True. Everyone thinks we all live in log cabins over here. That's just the way it goes.


You don't?!? j/k.

Old Fuff
March 31, 2012, 12:55 PM
True, there is a city called New York, but attached to the city is the little part called the rest of the state. In comparison to to NYC the rest of the state is a gun owners paradise.

O.K. you (sort of) have a point. So now lets compare conditions in New York State vs. those in Arizona when it comes to gun laws... :uhoh:

The difference is the reason I would never consider living in New York - city or state. I also have a good friend that used to live in western New York who doesn't now - for the same reason I don't.

This isn't a case of New York bashing, it's a simple stating of facts.

Black Butte
March 31, 2012, 01:10 PM
Bloomberg frothing at the mouth is hardly newsworthy. I wonder if the power-hungry Putin-wannabe will try to snag himself a fourth term?

P5 Guy
March 31, 2012, 06:43 PM
Bloomberg/Clinton 2016?

Pilot
March 31, 2012, 07:06 PM
Yes, the gun laws are still draconian in New York State, but that is not unusual in much of the northeast.

tyeo098
March 31, 2012, 07:14 PM
O.K. you (sort of) have a point. So now lets compare conditions in New York State vs. those in Arizona when it comes to gun laws...

Lets compare the amount of Atlantic shoreline Iowa has vs Florida...

Also, contrary to popular opinion, Bloomburg isn't the Governor of New York. He's the mayor of the city with the same name. And while he can flaunt his money and fame, and go on anti-gun triads, bother us (Virginia), thats all the power he has. A mayor. He'll be gone next term.

Realistically, and no offense to the mods here, but Bloomburg seems to be the stereotypical "Forum Moderator" type personality. Where you give a guy a LITTLE bit of power and they go 'trucking nuts with it. (Again, the mods here do a GREAT job, but I've been on some forums where the mods flaunt their "power" all over the place. "I'm a mod I'll ban you if you do that again... etc")

BUCKrub91
March 31, 2012, 07:22 PM
Also, contrary to popular opinion, Bloomburg isn't the Governor of New York. He's the mayor of the city with the same name

Yet he still manages to <deleted> the entire state up....

Airborne Falcon
March 31, 2012, 10:18 PM
I really cannot stand Bloomberg and I refuse to watch his news network. Matter of fact I have it blocked on my DVRs so no one in the house could actually accidentally watch it.

The guy is a total schmuck.

Old Fuff
March 31, 2012, 11:22 PM
Lets compare the amount of Atlantic shoreline Iowa has vs Florida...

Or for that matter how much Atlantic (or Pacific) shoreline Arizona has to offer. :neener:

But shoreline has nothing to do with New York State's firearms statutes, while the political make-up of the Legislature and Governor's Office being dominated by New York City and surounding area does.

My point was that the State's laws may be better then those in the Big Apple, but not a whole lot, and if you don't understand the difference between New York and Arizona, come out for a visit and we'll show you.

armoredman
April 1, 2012, 02:14 AM
P5 Guy, that is genuinely disturbing.
tyeo098, that's a genuine invitation. I understand you can't have military style rifles up there with standard capacity magazines? I may be wrong, of course, but you can put some rounds thorugh either one of my vz-58s if you come down, 7.62x39mm or 5.56mm whichever you like, and if you bring a sidearm, you can carry it concealed as a law abiding US citizen or legal resident, as long as you're not a prohibited possessor. I have a great free city maintained range a few miles away I'd love to show you.

"Let me find the gun, where'd I put the ammunition, where'd i put the key?"- Bloomberg
1) Draw 2) Assess 3) Act. - Me.

BUCKrub91
April 1, 2012, 02:33 AM
I understand you can't have military style rifles up there with standard capacity magazines?

We can have ar's and ak's and all that but we have to follow the 1994 AWB guidlines on them (no flash hider, no bayo lug, no collapsible stock) and we are limited to 10 round magazines unless they are preban

the majority of NY seems to be brainwashed into thinking guns are to dangerous to be used by civilians.. and not just those in NYC I live in western NY and was recently told by one of my cousins "I don't think shooting guns for fun is a good idea... its far to dangerous" I tried to educate her but wasn't very successful... mainly because I have no patience for ignorance

whalerman
April 1, 2012, 08:18 AM
I live in NY, and I am very very sorry. And to think we spend more money on education than any other state. We are left with people who do not know how to think. Again, I am very sorry.

tyeo098
April 1, 2012, 05:08 PM
P5 Guy, that is genuinely disturbing.
tyeo098, that's a genuine invitation. I understand you can't have military style rifles up there with standard capacity magazines?

Whoa whoa whoa.

I live in Virginia. ("The Old Dominion State...")
The only reason I can vouch for NY laws is because we have a second home in NY on 36 acres, and where I plan to build my own 100yd range.

But yes, AWB'94 applies. Pre-ban mags are OK. Pre-ban rifles can have all the evil features they want. Post-ban rifles must be neutered and post-ban mags must either be <=10rds or rendered to only accept <=10rds.

rm23
April 1, 2012, 10:25 PM
Whoa whoa whoa.

I live in Virginia. ("The Old Dominion State...")
The only reason I can vouch for NY laws is because we have a second home in NY on 36 acres, and where I plan to build my own 100yd range.

But yes, AWB'94 applies. Pre-ban mags are OK. Pre-ban rifles can have all the evil features they want. Post-ban rifles must be neutered and post-ban mags must either be <=10rds or rendered to only accept <=10rds.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/293861_10151419170675046_501740045_23291428_1029462778_n.jpg
This is my NYS legal rifle. It's hardly neutered.

tyeo098
April 1, 2012, 10:28 PM
This is my NYS legal rifle. It's hardly neutered.
Specs?

Going by the looks of it,

You have a comp perm. fixed to the muzzle (i.e no thread barrel or FH)
Your stock it fixed in THAT position only. (IF its adjustable, and I'm not familiar with that stock)
And I see no bayonet lug on your FSB.

NYS allows you to have 1 evil feature and the only evil feature you chose to keep was the pistol grip.

Neutered.

mljdeckard
April 1, 2012, 10:35 PM
People are still listening to him.

Deltaboy
April 1, 2012, 10:38 PM
The Mayor is with his statements proven he is a MOTHO!

rm23
April 1, 2012, 11:07 PM
It's a KAC SR15 with a triple tap muzzle brake and a Magpul PRS. The length and height of the stock are adjustable.

bushmaster1313
April 2, 2012, 09:59 PM
"Somebody's banging on your door and says, I'm going to come in and kill you...And this guy's got the gun out...You're better off not having a gun."

Didn't Bobby Knight get into big trouble saying something like that?

Pat M
April 2, 2012, 10:11 PM
It's a KAC SR15 with a triple tap muzzle brake and a Magpul PRS. The length and height of the stock are adjustable.
Ahh, so you've got that "shoulder thingy that goes up." DA Rice of Nassau would be interested in the adjustable length.

Unfortunately, I have to live by the same rules as you.....and they are ridiculous.

Manco
April 3, 2012, 04:35 PM
Bloomberg said: "wait a second: let me find the gun. Where did I put the ammunition? Where did I put the key?"

I wonder how long it takes him to get dressed in the morning with his toothbrush, shaving kit, pants, jacket, and tie strewn randomly around his house. :neener:

But seriously, I think the above illustrates how rights can be eroded by degrees until they are effectively and then actually taken away. :scrutiny: First get people to store ALL of their ammo (including defensive rounds) clear across the house in a separately locked container, and then tell people that home defense is therefore impractical, so nobody should be allowed to own guns at all because they're useless except for committing crimes. This tactic could theoretically work against any right. Sneaky!

gym
April 3, 2012, 06:48 PM
That guy is a serious idiot. I had a carry in NYC, when I sold my buisness, I had to turn in my permit , metioned several times before here, I left the stat and moved to FL. After 22 years of carrying 24/7, you are expected to just stop and give up your guns. That is why I say watch out for these guys, like Obama, and Bloomberg, they have plans for us. We need to remove Obama or as a lame Duck pres, he will take away our rights piece by piece.Starting with appointing 2 more supremes who are on his side as far as our rights and the rights of govt. It is a critical time.

ErikO
April 3, 2012, 09:36 PM
Looking at NDAA '11 I'm more concerned with Congress selling us further down the river.

Heck, I am a Liberal and thoughts of Mikey Bloomberg staying in politics annoys the poop out of me. Considering the federal laws he has broken with his "stings" he should have been locked up by now.

Carl N. Brown
April 3, 2012, 10:59 PM
"Let me find the gun, where'd I put the ammunition, where'd i put the key?"- Bloomberg

My revolver is in a holster on the night stand. My ammunition is in the revolver. The key to my gun cabinet is secured in. well, a secure place.

"Somebody's banging on your door and says, I'm going to come in and kill you...And this guy's got the gun out...You're better off not having a gun."

Locally home/business invasion murderers were armed with gun, knife or baseball bat, home invasion burglars who didn't have a chance to kill were armed with screwdriver, superior brute force, etc. (How come Bloomberg's burglars all have guns?) It does not take a gun to put a reasonable person in fear of imminent death or greivous bodily harm justifying use of a gun in self defense. Most self-defense against burglary around here is chase-off through brandishment-only, followed by detention at gun point for arrest by responding officer, occasionally a shot fired (miss or warning) and recently one serious but nonfatal wounding. We did have two double murders of people in their homes, involving drugs, where the victims had guns inaccessible. It's a mixed bag, perhaps, but several successful defenses overall.

Defenders should have a choice whether to have agun or not. Bloomberg would want the defenders serving 3.5 years in Sing Sing.
I smell yet another New York bashing thread.

People resent patriarchal plutocratic New York (as an impersonal abstract) bashing everyone else in its arrogance.

New York gun control advocates have been trying to push for a federally imposed national Sullivan Act for decades.
http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/rkba-25.html
H. L. Mencken, "The Uplifters Try It Again", Baltimore Sun, 30 Nov 1925.

Madison Avenue advertising executive Carl Bakal in No Right to Bear Arms claimed a ban on civilian guns was constitutional because the Second Amendment protected only state militias, disregarding any argument that the constitutions of several states guarantee their citizens a right to keep and bear arms, and if the Second Amendment was only about states, the language would have been "power and authority of the state" rather than "right of the people" shall not be infringed.

Don't take it personal, the resentment is mostly toward the Tim Sullivans, Chuck Schumers, Carl Bakals and Mike Bloomergs.

bushmaster1313
April 3, 2012, 11:20 PM
Bloomberg said: "wait a second: let me find the gun. Where did I put the ammunition? Where did I put the key?"



The Supreme Court made fun of the attorney for D.C. in the Heller case, I think it was Dellinger, who maintained that a locked gun in the home satisfied the right to keep and bear arms. One of the Justices asked him something like, "okay got to find the key but first I need to find my glasses."

Here it is:

Chief Justice Roberts: So how long does it take?

If your interpretation is correct, how long does it take to remove the trigger lock and make the gun operable.

Mr. Dellinger: --You... you place a trigger lock on and it has... the version I have, a few... you can buy them at 17th Street Hardware... has a code, like a three-digit code.

You turn to the code and you pull it apart.

That's all it takes.

Even... it took me 3 seconds.

Justice Scalia: You turn on, you turn on the lamp next to your bed so you can... you can turn the knob at 3-22-95, and so somebody--

Mr. Dellinger: Well--

Chief Justice Roberts: Is it like that?

Is it a numerical code?

Mr. Dellinger: --Yes, you can have one with a numerical code.

Chief Justice Roberts: So then you turn on the lamp, you pick up your reading glasses...--

[Laughter]

Swing
April 4, 2012, 12:03 AM
Armor piercing ammo? Really? So 90s.

SleazyRider
April 4, 2012, 08:09 AM
Armor piercing ammo? Really? So 90s.
Good stuff. I shot my snowblower with it many years ago. Out of anger. Or maybe revenge.

GambJoe
April 4, 2012, 11:42 AM
Bloomberg is in the process of putting security cameras on every corner of the city. He will no doubt deploy the latest and exprimental profiling software to identify potential gun carriers. Potential gun carriers will then be stopped before they commit a future crime.

So you're better off without a gun.

ol' scratch
April 4, 2012, 03:41 PM
I like him just fine...In New York. If he is busy playing mayor in New York City, he is less likely to try and spread his fanaticism all over the country. Every time he has tried, he has failed miserably. The guy is a raging loony.

gfanikf
April 4, 2012, 03:49 PM
When I moved back to PA (I still work so I get NYS Non-resident taxes), one thing I was immensely happy about was not having to pay NYC wage tax to fund him anymore. I don't hate New York City or a lot of things funded by taxes (the ETA times for subways is nice), but it was a decent chunk of my wife and my pay...but it all can't go to useful things.

Armor piercing ammo? Really? So 90s.

I had some on Facebook spout that stuff. I politely and calmly corrected him on that and other gun control myths (hi-cap) and soon those issues dropped to just the whole Zimmerman matter, along with an open offer to take him shooting anytime its on the East Coast.

Airborne Falcon
April 5, 2012, 12:49 AM
Seems appropriate ...

http://olbroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DUH.jpg

Mousegun
June 1, 2012, 09:10 AM
One thing I can't understand about this guy.

I lived in NYC for a few years and then N.J. for many more. I escaped to Tn.

Many of my friends were of the Jewish persuasion and I learned a lot about the tribulations they went through during WW11 and beyond. There is a common phrase among them, "never again" and I can certainly understand why.

Bloomers, who is Jewish, either forgot, doesn't believe or doesn't care about past history and chooses to take a stance on self protection that is not only stupid but down right morally wrong.

If NYC and other large cities would somehow allow their citizens the right of self protection with a firearm, there may be a period of learning but it would work itself out.

Pilot
June 1, 2012, 09:19 AM
Good stuff. I shot my snowblower with it many years ago. Out of anger. Or maybe revenge.


Now, I know I have to pick up some of that "AP" stuff. Just for this exact purpose. Actually, maybe some "API". Armor Piercing Incendiary! :D

Did it finally start AFTER you shot it?

Bloomberg = typical, elitist, big city hypocrite lib.

1911Tuner
June 1, 2012, 09:20 AM
Seems like every time he opens his mouth, he becomes more inconsequential. I gotta wonder if he's taken leave of his senses. No, really!

JFrame
June 1, 2012, 09:30 AM
I like him just fine...In New York. If he is busy playing mayor in New York City, he is less likely to try and spread his fanaticism all over the country. Every time he has tried, he has failed miserably. The guy is a raging loony.

I guess there's something to be said for keeping all the statists in concentrated areas, where they can ravage themselves to their hearts' content, and leave rational people alone.

Unfortunately, statists tend to disperse like locusts, swarming new fields to try and apply their cockamamie social engineering schemes.


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SleazyRider
June 1, 2012, 10:08 AM
... Did it finally start AFTER you shot it?

No, it was stone cold dead. My purpose in shooting it was not only to make me feel better; but so I wouldn't be tempted to patch it up and tinker with it for the umpteenth time to no avail. I was throwing good money after bad, because I am such a cheapskate.

It was a violent act, but one that I do not regret.

Robert
June 2, 2012, 01:12 PM
THR is not a health care forum. Please stick to firearms issue.

Robert
June 2, 2012, 03:30 PM
Apparently staying focused on the topic of firearms on a firearms forum was too difficult.

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