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kBob
March 31, 2012, 06:30 PM
Went to a local show today and was disappointed in the selection of repro BP as in almost none and I thought over priced.

On the other hand I saw a cute little Manhatten knock off of a S&W #1. It seemed somewhat more robust than a #1 but not near so as much as a #1 1/2. I liked the "engraving" which was a floral sort of ivy stuf on the rear of the barrel in sort of a triangular area and appeaerd stamped rather than engraved or etched. The cylinder had a scene as well of a group of human figures but I could not tell who or what they were doing. The cylinder had twice as many bolt slots as it "needed" just as some of the percussion models have.

I almost overlooked what was described as an 1864 Remington Police in .36 percussion, 5 shot. It appeared slight ly larger than the 1863 .31 and it had a trigger guard. It seemed to be a faded nickle and was described as having a brass frame but it appeared nickled as well. On arriving home I got down my Pietta '63 and I still think the .36 was on a slightly larger frame, but nowhere near what the .44s and six shot .36 Navy was on.

Unfortunately both were way beyond what I had to spend, the Remmie being $995.00 and the Manhatten a bit more.....I warned you the prices seemed high.
Unfortunately cameras were not permitted either.

I really wish someone made that .36 Remmie at a reasonable price. A buddy recently bought an Uberti colt 63 pocket .36 like our resident gun writer recently posted a video of and I would loved to have been able to have flashed that Remmie in front of him. The Remmie had an otagonal barrel like the .31 '63 remmie BTW. Neat gun.

-kBob

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swopjan
April 1, 2012, 12:08 AM
The Remington sounds interesting. I've been wondering lately, are .36 caliber remingtons historically accurate? i have an 1858 in .44 and an 1863 in .31, but no .36 to speak of.

as for the #1, gunbroker was selling an antique for $600, and here's a 1 1/2 for $650. i'd buy them myself but i would want to shoot them too much... :(
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=279261998

edit: actually, searching for "S&W 1" in Antiques is showing a bunch of them in various conditions.

mykeal
April 1, 2012, 06:17 AM
are .36 caliber remingtons historically accurate?
Yes and no.

Remington did produce a .36 cal version of the New Army revolver called the New Navy; there was actually a .36 cal version of each model of the design we now know as the 1858 Remington.

It had a slightly smaller grip frame than the .44, and therein lies the rub; some of the Italian replicas reproduced that frame size and some didn't. So, technically, some are historically accurate and some are less so. I have a .36 cal Remington New Navy made by Pietta in 1981 that has the smaller grip frame but I understand the current Piettas do not. I don't know when that transition occurred.

kBob
April 1, 2012, 10:25 AM
mykeal,

The .36 I looked at was a five shot and the frame looked only a bit larger than the '63 Pocket .31. It had a trigger guard that was as tiny and crowded as a Colt '49 and a thin trigger.

It was not a modern reproduction and the seller claimed it was made in 1864.

-kBob

Jaymo
April 1, 2012, 08:29 PM
Would that be the same as the small Remington revolver Clint Eastwood carried in his waistband in Pale Rider?
I recall is looked similar to the 63 pocket, but it had a brass trigger guard (not a spur trigger).

kBob
April 1, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jaymo,

Don't know. Could be. I liked it but don't play the lottory anymore so did not win.

-kBob

hawkeye74
April 3, 2012, 09:58 PM
As for current 36 production of Remington 36, I think they are all made on 44 frames. Some may be turned down a bit but the overall feel is different from the originals.

The Remington described appears to be the Remington New Police made from 1865 to 1873 with barrel lengths from 3 1/2" up to 6 1/2" at 1" intervals. Original Remie's had frames of various sizes that were made for the particular model gun; Army, Navy, Police, Pocket and Belt.

For loads of historical information on BP guns, Buy a Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms. Worth the $40. investment.

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