''cheap'' Howdah-style side-by-side pistol


April 1, 2012, 11:03 PM
OK, I don't want to hijack the very interesting ''BP Defensive Pistol Thread'', but I have always wanted a Howdah-style side-by-side pistol ...I've had a .36 Corsair double, and currently have the .44 version of that fine pistola, but it's relativly small bore, and not really the same thing. on the other hand, I feel like $800.00 for a 20 guage ''sawed off'' is a bit much. Any ideas?

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April 1, 2012, 11:18 PM
I think Middlesex has the Indian made Howdah pistols for a lot less than the Pedersoli.

April 2, 2012, 02:26 AM
thanks Jaymo!

tom e gun
April 2, 2012, 04:01 AM
i just found a link to one possibly :)

Pete D.
April 2, 2012, 07:11 AM
About the Middlesex pistol. I have one. At this point, I like it and it is a hoot to shoot.
That being said......it has taken a lot of work to get to "this point".
Bottom line...when I got the gun, it had, absolutely and finally, the worst trigger that I have ever tried to pull. It had to be in the 30-40 lbs category. I could not fire it with one hand; I could barely get the triggers pulled with two fingers on.
I had to completely dismantle both locks and then file the relevant springs, and then sand and polish every part and bearing surface. Essentially, I rebuilt the locks.
Now the triggers are at about 10 lbs and the gun is shootable.
I don't know that every Howdah that MVTC sells is as I have described; mine certainly was.
Note: It is also a smaller gun - shorter barrels - than the Pedersoli.

April 2, 2012, 11:53 AM
Cabelas sells them currently:


April 2, 2012, 03:14 PM
thanks, guys, maybe I'll stick with my. 44 for now...it's the functional equivilant to a legal ''sawed off'' .410, anyhow.

April 2, 2012, 04:10 PM
BHP Fan,

I know this is odd coming from me, but.......

where's the picture???

Now that my "good" camera is working I find that the piece of Dell laptop I am using does not have a port for its type of memory card.

Not posting myself however in no way prevents me from venting upon others that do not.

Besides I have only seen them in adds in the way back and always wondered what they were like.


April 2, 2012, 09:21 PM
My howdah from middlesex has a bad trigger, but not that bad.
$350 from middlesex versus $600-700 from Pedersoli?
My blunderbus and my ship's carbine from middlesex have decent trigger pulls even compared to my italian repros.

April 2, 2012, 09:43 PM
Don't forget, Dixie Gun Works has the Howdah in kit form!
It costs a bit less than the completed pistol, sort it by price and it's at the bottom of the page!

BE Wild Willy
April 2, 2012, 11:42 PM
Seen this in the classifieds over on the MLF. I know it's only a .44, but kinda neat.


April 2, 2012, 11:50 PM
That is exactly what I have.

BE Wild Willy
April 3, 2012, 01:15 AM
That is exactly what I have.

Now kbob can see...

April 3, 2012, 01:38 AM

April 3, 2012, 11:50 AM
There's a difference between a howdah and a double barreled pistol. If it's .50" or larger, it can be a howdah.
The original howdah guns were cut-down large bore safari guns. At first local craftsmen cut down old guns, then parker and h&h made and sold them. The ones that went to india were called howdah guns, the ones that went to africa were cheetah guns.

April 3, 2012, 03:50 PM
I saw the howdah in Cabela's bargin cave for half of what they sold for new. I'm guessing there was a lot of buyer's remorse, because at one point there was half a dozen of them there.

April 3, 2012, 05:03 PM
^haha. It's almost tax time....

/I'm saving my ducats.

April 3, 2012, 06:07 PM
here are a couple pics of my howdah, 69 caliber or so


April 3, 2012, 06:42 PM
fancier than I recalled.

Those folks over there want more money than folks here abouts it seems.


April 4, 2012, 03:18 AM
cheetahs never prosper.

April 4, 2012, 04:13 AM
That is sweet looking, Plastikos. :)

April 4, 2012, 07:59 AM
I *need* a howdah pistol... I can only find Pedersoli's over here in the UK and they are a 'tad' expensive... at round 600 ($1000) :(

April 7, 2012, 02:59 PM
Ugh....they ain't much cheaper, here!

April 7, 2012, 08:22 PM
If you wanted a single shot version you could ream out the rifling on a Kentucky pistol, remove the rear sight, and file the front sight to be more like a bead! I'd imagine that sort of thing would be excellent for small game if you loaded it with birdshot! It would be quite fun to own a legal sawnoff shotgun! One of the many things I like about blackpowder is the fact I can have what is essentially a short barreled shotgun with no paperwork at all. :)


April 8, 2012, 05:15 PM
I had similar questions a few years back and this is how my project ended up. I am real happy with it.



Took this last year on the back porch of my new house. It's a kit that I made up a few years back. I looked at many flavors and price ranges before settling on this.

My suggestion would be to look at QUALITY instead of PRICE. There in you will find the true reflection of muzzle loaders.

hang fire
April 8, 2012, 06:43 PM
In pictures at link: The geometry of the hammers to nipples is absolutely horrible. The muzzles of the barrels look as though finished with a hand held grinder. The finish of the wood is atrocious.

Other than that, I would pay the grand sum of 25 bucks for it.

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