Savage Rifles and their AccuTrigger


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Wolphmans Brother
April 2, 2012, 04:35 AM
Howdy Folks,

I've been reading through the threads here for a while and finally decided to join. Anyway, I'm looking to get a new hunting rifle (budget preferably) in .308win with a detachable magazine. I've heard great things about Savage rifles...but I think all the good words were from people who had the AccuTrigger. That little spec would bump the price up almost double. Anyway, what are y'alls thoughts on the AccuTrigger? Should I just cough up the extra $400? I'd be getting the "10/110 Trophy Hunter XP" over the basic "Axis" if I wanted the AccuTrigger. I'm wanting to use this rifle for Deer/? most likely shooting at 100-200 yards. I won't have many +200 yard shots where I go for hunting but then again, if I ever make that vacation out to some wide open spaces it would be nice to pull off a 400yarder. Thanks for your advice!

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LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
April 2, 2012, 05:14 AM
My Savage is a 110 model in .243 Winchester. Mine is NOT equipped with the accutriger, but is incredible as is. The trigger breaks at 3.5-4 pounds and has very little take-up as is. IMHO you can't go wrong with a Savage.

Kachok
April 2, 2012, 06:02 AM
I have owned several Savage rifles, both with and without the Accutrigger. They all shot great, not a dud in the bunch, but I do perfer the Accutrigger to the old trigger no doubt about it. The Savage rifles are not that expensive, I just bought my 30-06 package gun with a cheap yet highly functional Bushnell scope and rings for $386 at Wal-Mart, that is the rifle I would recommend even though it does not have the detachable mag. Yeah the stock is el-chepo feeling but none of mine have ever had any issues. I cannot speak for the Edge/Axis rifles seeing as I have never owned one, but the reviews are very good. The 308 is a fantastic cartrage for the range you are looking to hunt, more power then you will ever need for whitetail out to 400yd, the recoil while not in the sissy kicker catagory is very managable, and trajectory is plenty flat within 250yds though you will need to learn your drop at 400 for sure. Try some 168gr Ballistic tips or 165gr SSTs if you want to shoot out to 400, they retain more energy and drop/drift less then regular soft points at range, and to be honest I have never seen more perfect on game performance then what my ballistic tips give me. Never track a deer, all DRT or within a few feet.
Another really good rifle if you like adjustable triggers and detachable mags is the Tikka T3, they are every bit as good as the Savages with alot of refinment. Mine will shoot 3/4" all day long with whatever bulk ammo you feed it and has the smootest action of ANY rifle. Sometimes you can find a steal on one if you are not in a rush. BTW Tikkas trigger is better then the Accutrigger, just don't tell the Savage cult I said that :)

JoeMal
April 2, 2012, 06:22 AM
I have a Savage (w/ an Accutrigger) and I definitely think it's worth it. It's an MOA gun with several brands of factory ammo...I cannot say the trigger is the only reason why the gun is so accurate, but it certainly helps. Savage makes a great gun for the money. But once, cry once, you won't be disappointed.


And welcome to THR

JimStC
April 2, 2012, 09:17 AM
Ditto on the Savage recommendations. I have two and just ordered a third.
You should be pleased and they are very accurate. Mine have the Accutrigger so I can't comment on the trigger question.

Ship_engineer
April 2, 2012, 09:21 AM
I have a savage 111 in .270 with out the accuTrigger and it out shoots me.
The trigger is a little heavy for my liking but it breaks cleanly.

mdauben
April 2, 2012, 09:37 AM
That little spec would bump the price up almost double. Anyway, what are y'alls thoughts on the AccuTrigger? Should I just cough up the extra $400?
I'm wondering where you are getting your prices? Tee accutrigger doen't add anything like $400 to the price of the gun. In fact, with just a couple minutes search I found a couple of on-line retailers selling the Savage Model 11F Hunter, in .308 with accutrigger, for around $370-380.

jimmyraythomason
April 2, 2012, 09:50 AM
what are y'alls thoughts on the AccuTrigger? Should I just cough up the extra $400?Last Savage I bought new was 110 with accutrigger. It was less than $400 total with scope.

Flatbush Harry
April 2, 2012, 10:43 AM
I have this Savage 116 FHSAK in .30-06 with AccuStock and AccuTrigger.

It's a pretty fair shooter...I'd pay up for Accu.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j126/flatbush_harry/4a8d60ac.jpg

FH

PS-that's 3 shots at a hundred yards off a tripod with a rear bag to see how my rifle liked my M1 Garand match loads

Lincoln4
April 2, 2012, 10:48 AM
Should I just cough up the extra $400? I'd be getting the "10/110 Trophy Hunter XP" over the basic "Axis" if I wanted the AccuTrigger.

Yeah, you need to look around more. I just saw ten or so Trophy Hunter XPs in various calibers for $479 three days ago at Sportsman's Warehouse in Puyallup. First time I've seen and handled them.

I have three rifles with the accutrigger and one without. Go for the accutrigger if you can. I replaced the non-accutrigger with a Timney trigger. There are several threads on improving the Axis trigger on the Savage Shooters board...

Skylerbone
April 2, 2012, 10:55 AM
The Accutrigger isn't bad for a stock effort but if you can buy a better model without it now you can swap out the trigger later for around $100. My Winchester and Remington triggers best the Savage in trigger feel and pull weight but both have been modified/replaced. As for accuracy, splitting hairs between them at 200 yds.

wingman
April 2, 2012, 10:56 AM
I prefer a good trigger so I vote accutrigger.:D

BCCL
April 2, 2012, 11:02 AM
I have a .22 with the accu-trigger and love it, very slick!

Tempest 455
April 2, 2012, 11:06 AM
Ditto on Accutrigger. However, I would not let that stop you buy a Savage if you decided not to spend the extra. I also have a non Accutrigger and it's extremely accurate.

ECVMatt
April 2, 2012, 12:23 PM
While I like the Savage action, I am not sold on the Accu-Trigger. I just picked up a Steven's 200 and installed a Rifle Basix trigger. This seems like the way I would go with other Savage models as well. It is simple, easy to adjust, and ends up with a great trigger pull. You might consider this pathway to trigger pull happiness.

Wolphmans Brother
April 2, 2012, 12:57 PM
The feedback is great guys. I don't know if its like this for you guys but I start out telling myself "budget, budget, budget" and somehow I always find an excuse to go above the budget. I've been doing most of my searching on the Savage Arms website with some general searches for online retailers. I'm leaning on finding a way to make the 10/110 Trophy Hunter XP model work over the Axis XP model simply because with your help, I have convinced myself it would be better to have the AccuTrigger out of the box...as well as the fact that a hunting rifle with a wood stock is SEXY! Anyway, I'm about to head out to my local guy and see what he has.

Averageman
April 2, 2012, 02:50 PM
I bought a model 11 .308 six months ago and finally got around to shooting it a week ago.
I like the accutrigger, but it broke clean and very crisp and was very surprising at first and took three rounds to get used to.
It definatly prefers Winchester Super X 150 grains and will clover leaf 5 at 100.
I bought mine used and was ready to glass bed it and do some serious work on it, but actually it shoots better than I thought it would and I am happy just like it is.
I paid $300.00, can't beat that.

ECVMatt
April 2, 2012, 04:30 PM
Good Choice WB- you will love that rifle.

Post some picks when you get her so we can all drool.

jmr40
April 2, 2012, 04:45 PM
Most of the serious shooters I know remove the Accutrigger and replace it with something better. I'd save the money and use it toward a better trigger. The Accutrigger is an attempt to make a foolproof trigger that could be adjusted at home without making the gun dangerous.

I owned one briefly, and have shot others. They can be adjusted light enough, but all were too mushy and inconsistent to make me happy. I'd rather have a crisp trigger that breaks at exactly 3 lbs. every single time, than a mushy trigger that somtimes breaks at 2 lbs, and at 2.5 lbs other times.

sixgunner455
April 2, 2012, 05:54 PM
The Axis is not comparable to the 10/110. It is a different action and trigger. To compare, you would have to be comparing the Stevens 200 or Savage 11/111 w/o the Accutrigger with the Savage 10/110 WITH the accutrigger. It's more, but not that much more.

A Stevens 200 on CTD is ~319.00. A Savage 11 is ~554.00. Both have synthetic stocks. A Savage 14 with Accutrigger, and wood stock, is ~680.00. More than the Savage 11, but certainly not $400 more. Other retailers will have higher and lower prices. Buds Gun Shop has a Savage 11, DBM, with a kit scope, .308, no accutrigger, for $401.

That's probably what I'd get. Actually, that is what I got - in .243.

If you want a good trigger out of the box, get that Accutrigger. If wood stocks turn you on, get one. If price and a DBM are your hot-button issues, get a rifle with those feathers instead. You can get good triggers aftermarket, and nice wood stocks aftermarket, so don't think you're married to something if you get it at the lowest price you can manage and want to upgrade it later.

jrdolall
April 2, 2012, 06:57 PM
Wallyworld Savage is the best out of the box budget gun I have personally ever owned. It is far more accurate than I am at 100 yards and the accutrigger is excellent. For $400 out the door you can even buy 100 rounds of practice ammo and still be in the $500 range. I did change the scope to a Leupold 3x9x50 and put the 40mm Bushnell on a 30-30 because I like to hunt evenings and I like the 50mm lens better.

jon_in_wv
April 2, 2012, 09:58 PM
i love Savages and Mine are tack drivers. HOWEVER, I don't like the accutrigger and I prefer the older ones hands down. The accutrigger does give a nice pull but it is possible for the trigger to lock up and it happens way too easily in my book. I want my weapon to be reliable or its no good to me so the trigger was a deal breaker. I thought it was just my weapon but a I read a LOT of stories online about issues with the trigger and it was enough for me. BTW, it shot literally one hole groups at 100 yards. It was incredibly accurate.

gunnutery
April 2, 2012, 10:14 PM
Wow, I had no idea the accutrigger added that much to the price!

I have a Savage 10FP in .308 and I bought it before they came out with the accutrigger. The trigger I have is great. It's nice and crisp when it breaks and works great for me. The most yardage I've ever had to work with was 200 yards, but I'm sure it could do the job at much greater distances. You'd be fine without the accutrigger.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=106855&d=1255063369

Txhillbilly
April 2, 2012, 10:19 PM
I have 6 Savage rifles,4 of them have the Accu-trigger,and the other 2 have a SSS Competition trigger in them.

I personally like the Accu-trigger,it's kinda like having a 2 stage trigger,I know when I have the center blade pulled to the trigger,it's showtime.
The Accu-trigger takes some getting used to,and you have to learn how to pull it.Most guy's that have problems with them either have the trigger set too lite,or need to work on the way they pull the trigger.

There are several aftermarket triggers that are superior to the Accu-trigger,but there aren't many factory triggers that will come close to it without doing a bunch of work to them.

jon_in_wv
April 2, 2012, 10:22 PM
TXhillbilly, I've heard the "too light" excuse and mine would lock periodically even if you turned it up to its heaviest setting. "HOW" you pull the trigger is just completely off base. The trigger locks then the bolt is cycled, not when you pull the trigger. Its locked before you even touch it.

The fact it CAN happen is enough for me. If a Glock's trigger locked solid once every 100 rounds or so would you carry it? I bet not. I have the same philosophy with my rifles. Only accurate rifles are interesting and only reliable ones are worth owning. Maybe I could have fixed the issue but its just not for me. If you don't mind it then its a darned good trigger but its not like a regular trigger can't be tuned to a nice break also.

Txhillbilly
April 2, 2012, 10:57 PM
TXhillbilly, I've heard the "too light" excuse and mine would lock periodically even if you turned it up to its heaviest setting. "HOW" you pull the trigger is just completely off base. The trigger locks then the bolt is cycled, not when you pull the trigger. Its locked before you even touch it.

The fact it CAN happen is enough for me. If a Glock's trigger locked solid once every 100 rounds or so would you carry it? I bet not. I have the same philosophy with my rifles. Only accurate rifles are interesting and only reliable ones are worth owning. Maybe I could have fixed the issue but its just not for me. If you don't mind it then its a darned good trigger but its not like a regular trigger can be tuned to a nice break also.
I did say "Most Guy's",there have been several people that have had some problems with them,but most were the "Target" version of the Accu-trigger.

The only time that I have had one lock up was from either having the trigger weight set too lite,or if I pulled the trigger towards one side and not straight back.

Anything that is made or touched by human hands has flaws,no matter who made it.

jrdolall
April 3, 2012, 07:20 AM
I have fired 1000 rounds or so through my $400 Savage with the Accutrigger. It has never "locked up", FTF's, FTE'd or any other type of failure. It might happen the next time I shoot the rifle but it has been flawless for me and I am not easy on hunting rifles. My hunting guns are not "show" guns. They are used and semi-abused. The acutrigger took some getting used to just like anything that is different but it took about 1/2 a box of shells to learn how it works. I have not had to make any adjustments as it is just right out of the box.

jon_in_wv
April 3, 2012, 08:05 AM
Txhillbilly, mine would lock up when the bolt cycled which I believe is the most common issue. If I was target shooting and very light on the bolt it normally wouldn't do it but if I went too quickly or tried to shoot quickly the problem would pop up and the only way to unlock the trigger was to cycle the bolt again.

The accutrigger in the 22lr is a different design, better in my book, and it doesn't appear the trigger can lock up like the centerfires do. I love the trigger on my Savage 22lr. Either way I think the Savages are still great rifles. I would rather get a Savage I know is going to be accurate and fix the trigger then get another brand that may or may not be as accurate. Its a lot cheaper to fix a trigger.

lovethosesooners
April 3, 2012, 08:06 AM
I have 4 different Savage rifles, 3 of which have the accu-trigger.

It really is a great trigger-my suggestion is save a little longer and shop hard for what your looking for-you may be able to do well on line and pay the $25 to ship to an FFL.

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