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JohnnyK
April 2, 2012, 03:01 PM
I just shot my first round of sporting clays with my Saiga 12 and had much fun... it's a much more exiting game than skeet... I shot 26/50 and now I plan on taking lessons to improve my score... yes, S-12 isn't your standard clays gun but... I want a shotty that'll do everything.. home defense, 3-gun and clays... and I enjoy the challenge... as well as the weird looks from people seeing me shoot my "Commie gun" at clays... Johnny

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Chopdoktor
April 2, 2012, 03:16 PM
I had no issue busting clays with my cylinder-bore, no-choke Saiga 12. I even had the drum up under there. This was at a little backyard guns-and-grill gathering at my buddy's place. It's priceless to send 2 or 3 clays out and just lay waste to 'em with a combat shotgun :-)

Virginian
April 2, 2012, 08:44 PM
Have fun, but there is a reason you don't see a lot of these on the clays ranges or the skeet ranges, and it doesn't have to do with looks. If it worked better lots of people would be using them. Lot's of people would do anything to kill more clay pigeons.

hso
April 2, 2012, 08:49 PM
Yep, when you play a sport you use the gear for it and not your everyday clothes, shoes and kit. Same for clays.

It is cool that you shot a rounds with your S12, but you don't stand a serious chance against folks with better balanced, pointing, weight shotguns.

oneounceload
April 2, 2012, 09:29 PM
As long as the club's safety rules are followed - i.e., no more than two shells loaded, etc., shoot what you want. But if you ever want to get serious about shooting sporting clays well, you'll need something different

desidog
April 3, 2012, 04:28 PM
I use my S410 for skeet...it's more of a challenge with a sightline further from the bore axis, which is why

you don't stand a serious chance against folks with better balanced, pointing, weight shotguns.

However, some people aren't competitive and feel that the whole point is to get out there and have fun.

And after you've shot 26/50 with an S12, shooting a proper gun will immediately improve your score!

Woodyard
April 3, 2012, 05:03 PM
Fifty-two percent isn't going to impress anyone. You need to average 80 or better in sporting and in the 90s in trap or skeet to even be competitive. The first thing a coach will probably tell you is get a different "shotty" or "bangy wangy" or whatever shotguns are called these days.

Dravur
April 3, 2012, 05:58 PM
Great, now I want a Bangy Wangy

Larry Ashcraft
April 3, 2012, 06:36 PM
Fifty-two percent isn't going to impress anyone. You need to average 80 or better in sporting and in the 90s in trap or skeet to even be competitive.
Depends on the course. A few years ago the HOA in the Colorado State Sporting Clays Tournament was an 86. The tournament director was Chunk Youngblood, and he sure was proud of his setup. We shot the same setup a week later, shooting only report pairs, and we didn't do very well at all.

It was interesting to see clays can do when a master sets them up, though. I've never seen a target going straight away hook when it gets to 40 yards, for instance.

My wife shoots a 28 ga SXS in SC, because that's what she enjoys shooting. I'll admit I like to score better, so I use my 12 ga Citori, but to each his own.

blaisenguns
April 3, 2012, 07:14 PM
I want another Bangy Wangy too.

blaisenguns
April 3, 2012, 07:15 PM
I would prefer a nice over/under or side by side for clays, but In a pinch the SPAS 12 works.

NOLAEMT
April 4, 2012, 12:26 AM
"Bangy Wangy"

Great, now I have another gun term to remember!

JohnnyK
April 4, 2012, 01:00 AM
it was my first time with sporting clays with my Saiga Bangy Wangy... give me a break... it was for FUN... not competition... I wasn't used to birds coming from all different angles randomly... I usually shoot 80-90% with self pull... when I know where the birds come from... my buddy with a $1400 Benelli Bangy Wangy shot 32/50... they both shoot the same 12 guage shells... mine was a bit more challenging... and fun...

Old Unc'
April 4, 2012, 07:54 AM
This is a joke, right! I mean April Fools Day just passed...

CSestp
April 4, 2012, 01:55 PM
why are people getting so up in arms over this? this sounds like great fun, and i think i might try it with mine. lighten up peanut gallery life is about fun.

Dave McCracken
April 4, 2012, 03:56 PM
BANGY WANGY?!!


My head hurts.....

Seriously, a Saiga's not the pony, IMO, to ride into any of the Clays Halls Of Fame, but if your aim is to have fun and get better with your Bangy Wangy of Choice, go ahead on.

Now, where did I put those aspirin?....

oneounceload
April 4, 2012, 04:29 PM
BANGY WANGY?!!

as nauseating as "shotty".................. ;)

Old Unc'
April 4, 2012, 06:14 PM
LOL, it takes all kinds! Most sanctioned clubs wouldn't allow short barrel, black plastic cowboys guns on the range. The paying members would be outraged, just like reading silly juvinille posts...

JohnnyK
April 5, 2012, 01:16 AM
Commie Cowboy in Texas shooting his Commie Bangy Wangy at some clays... most people were amused by the short black bangy wangy... by the way, I did shoot a $1400 bangy wangy and it was a bit easier to use but I love my s-12....

JohnnyK
April 5, 2012, 01:23 AM
I love 3-gun as it's the perfect place to just unload the full capabilities of Saiga-12 (large capacity, short, one of the fastest cycling bangy wangys ever made) and that's some of the ultimate fun blowing targets to shreds and knocking steel down and blowing stationary clays up... as fast and accurate as you can pull the trigger...
it was never my intention to try to make it to clays hall of fame... at least not now... maybe after I take a few lessons and get better with my Saiga bangy wangy... :)

RTR_RTR
April 5, 2012, 04:48 AM
If bangy wangy catches on here, I'm going to have to stop lurking. My eyes can't take it

1858remington
April 5, 2012, 05:09 AM
nice thing about these is the 20 round drum mags. Just pack 2 drums and a stick mag and your good for a round of sporting clays.:D

oneounceload
April 5, 2012, 10:51 AM
Not around here - we shoot 100 rounds at a time - and loading two at a time into that drum would sure get old after a while...... ;)

JohnnyK
April 5, 2012, 11:03 AM
i will admit loading 2 round into even a 5 round mag does get cumbersome... but, you learn to reload without even thinking about it... the 20 round drums are sweet... that's what I use for home defense...

Roan
April 5, 2012, 11:19 AM
I shot my first round of skeet with my Saiga 12 not too long ago. My friend brought the wrong O/U to the round, since it was choked for long distance, and did really poorly. I think I did pretty well with my score of 14 of 24. I'm sure with practice I could improve that. I'm not looking to win competitions, I'm looking to have fun with friends. That means that I can handicap myself with an 'unsuitable bangy wangy' which increases difficulty and is just as fun, if not moreso.

drsfmd
April 5, 2012, 11:56 AM
That means that I can handicap myself with an 'unsuitable bangy wangy' which increases difficulty and is just as fun, if not moreso.

When you can run 100 straights with regularity you can worry about increasing difficulty.

RTR_RTR
April 5, 2012, 03:02 PM
When you become the commander of clay, you can tell other people what they are allowed to worry about when they shoot ;)

desidog
April 5, 2012, 03:47 PM
Lighten up, Francis.

It's meant to be fun.

There's nothing i like better than showing up wearing flip flops and a t-shirt and outshooting some overly competitive d-bag who's spent more than my annual salary just on his shooting get-up.

I also think Parliament Lights are the best sporting cigarette, since you can hold the recessed filter in your teeth....while you shoot. They love that.

CSestp
April 5, 2012, 03:48 PM
LOL @ desidog and RTR_RTR

oneounceload
April 5, 2012, 04:06 PM
There's nothing i like better than showing up wearing flip flops and a t-shirt and outshooting some overly competitive d-bag who's spent more than my annual salary just on his shooting get-up.

here we go yet again with another wealth-envy rant, but there is never any proof of these butt-whuppings - no scores posted, no trophies to show, no name in the gun rags.......

desidog
April 5, 2012, 04:45 PM
here we go yet again with another wealth-envy rant, but there is never any proof of these butt-whuppings - no scores posted, no trophies to show, no name in the gun rags.......

I think you missed my point.

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