A bad BG foiled by team work and hard headedess


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Sky
April 5, 2012, 09:13 AM
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/04/04/pit-bull-shot-in-the-head-trying-to-protect-owner-but-miraculously-survives/

I find this interesting on so many levels. A bad guy dressed as a FedX delivery man attempts to rob a couple. Pit bull comes to the rescue and gets shot in the head. Dog lives, BD runs away, police are looking.

Never sure who is at your door anymore

wife and dog both great reaction

either a hard head or a very lite caliber or the angle was all wrong...maybe everything.:scrutiny:

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Ranger30-06
April 5, 2012, 09:18 AM
Pitbulls and rottweilers have extremely thick skills... I remember reading about how someone had to put a rabid one down and needed like a .45 ACP or a .357 Mag or something up there on the power spectrum... This is one lucky dog though... Good for these guys!

It also makes you think twice about opening the door wide open when you answer it...

MrDig
April 5, 2012, 09:33 AM
If that were my Dog I would be buying a steak, he deserves a real treat :)

Double Naught Spy
April 5, 2012, 10:02 AM
Pitbulls and rottweilers have extremely thick skills...

No, they do not. The head may be well muscled, but the skull isn't particularly thick compared to dogs of comparable size and weight.

http://eternalevolution.hubpages.com/hub/Pit-Bulls-Behind-The-Jaws

I remember reading about how someone had to put a rabid one down and needed like a .45 ACP or a .357 Mag or something up there on the power spectrum...

No doubt the auther of your story is a poor shot. I can assure you that the skull of a pitbull is MUCH thinner than the skull of a cow and you can put a .22 short through the skull and into the brain.

Never sure who is at your door anymore
You were never sure in the past either. Being dressed as some sort of service person, delivery guy, etc. is a common ruse going as far back as the early 20th century in the US, though I would have no doubt it has gone on for hundreds of years if not thousands around the world.

Ranger30-06
April 5, 2012, 10:08 AM
No, they do not. The head may be well muscled, but the skull isn't particularly thick compared to dogs of comparable size and weight. http://eternalevolution.hubpages.com/hub/Pit-Bulls-Behind-The-Jaws

Wow. That's contrary to everything I've ever heard about dogs. Okay...





No doubt the auther of your story is a poor shot. I can assure you that the skull of a pitbull is MUCH thinner than the skull of a cow and you can put a .22 short through the skull and into the brain.

No idea my friend! It was just something I remember coming across years ago...

You were never sure in the past either. Being dressed as some sort of service person, delivery guy, etc. is a common ruse going as far back as the early 20th century in the US, though I would have no doubt it has gone on for hundreds of years if not thousands around the world.


Yea, but this type of home invasion really hasn't been big recently. I've hardly seen it in the past 5 years in the news but I guess that doesn't mean it doesn't happen... Just another reason to crack the door when answering...

Sky
April 5, 2012, 10:10 AM
You were never sure in the past either. Being dressed as some sort of service person, delivery guy, etc. is a common ruse going as far back as the early 20th century in the US, though I would have no doubt it has gone on for hundreds of years if not thousands around the world.

Agree 100% however there are people (who live in La La Land?) who have never considered many of the things that are discussed here at THR. Myself, on occasion, need a refresher; but I never consider myself an expert just a student of life and a survivor.

No doubt the auther of your story is a poor shot. I can assure you that the skull of a pitbull is MUCH thinner than the skull of a cow and you can put a .22 short through the skull and into the brain. If the placement of the shot is inspected just above the eye if I remember my doggy anatomy 101 class that is where the eye socket channel/brow ridge and skull cranial cavity meet; a few angles there for a lucky deflection shot?

Horses, cows, et.al., 'been there done that' but never with a .22 short we only used the .22 lr.....not doubting the short would work too. Just no experience with one for that purpose.

Big Boy
April 5, 2012, 11:25 AM
I always only crack my door. Even when I've ordered food and I am expecting the delivery driver.

I'm not gruff, but I only crack the door wide enough to see out and fit my hand out with the money. Have to open it a little wider sometimes to bring the food in, lol.

A lot of times this has resulted in the driver going "uhhh...Did you order pizza?". Yeah sorry, I don't randomly open my door to everyone who knocks.

Gun Geezer
April 6, 2012, 08:55 AM
I did not see the caliber mentioned. But 22's do odd things. I read a reliable story some years ago where a guy was shot in the forehead and the 22 slug ran around the outside of his skull (under the skin) and out above his ear. Not a 1/4 round trip mind you. It made it 3/4 way around his head!

hardluk1
April 6, 2012, 09:09 AM
I watched another video on youtube about a bull dog saveing a guy that took a 45 to the head. Still chewed on the BG's. - video- A viginia pit bull is being called a hero.

Manson
April 6, 2012, 10:32 AM
Good dog. I hope I can say that he is one hard headed dog without someone quoting Rockwell hardness figures. Figuratively a hard headed little hero.

Double Naught Spy
April 6, 2012, 11:49 AM
If the placement of the shot is inspected just above the eye if I remember my doggy anatomy 101 class that is where the eye socket channel/brow ridge and skull cranial cavity meet; a few angles there for a lucky deflection shot?

While that could happen, shots impacting at a low angle relative to a surface can be readily deflected.

If shooting a dog in the skull that is charging you, and the bullet does not enter at the eyes, nose, or mouth, then it likely will be hitting the skull at a low angle and can be deflected. This sort of problem is also seen with pigs and bears that are reported to have particularly strong or thick bone in the skull and they don't for the most part.

25 years working as a zooarchaeologist has been very enlightening in skeletal biomechanics.

Hikester
April 7, 2012, 04:19 PM
I think having motion sensor cameras covering the major entrances of your home is a good idea. In this situation the camera would have allowed the resident to view the visitor from a safe distance and avoid the confrontation and also provide an accurate physical record for the police.

dcarch
April 7, 2012, 04:25 PM
I think having motion sensor cameras covering the major entrances of your home is a good idea. In this situation the camera would have allowed the resident to view the visitor from a safe distance and avoid the confrontation and also provide an accurate physical record for the police.
I'm sure that's a great idea, but I honestly don't have the money for that sort of system. Even if I did, there are many other things I would probably spend it on.... That being said, if you want to purchase one, go right ahead! I had friends who repeatedly got vandalized who installed a similar system, and the vandalizing completely stopped. I probably wouldn't buy one, though.

Hikester
April 7, 2012, 04:48 PM
I'm sure that's a great idea, but I honestly don't have the money for that sort of system. Even if I did, there are many other things I would probably spend it on.... That being said, if you want to purchase one, go right ahead! I had friends who repeatedly got vandalized who installed a similar system, and the vandalizing completely stopped. I probably wouldn't buy one, though.

I routinely see complete systems on sale for $99 at Costco. Compared to the cost of a firearm or feeding a large dog it doesn't seem like that large of an expense. I am not suggesting cameras are a replacement for firearms or dogs but a layered approach seems logical.

dcarch
April 7, 2012, 06:39 PM
My mistake. When I read motion-sensing cameras, I was envisioning some giant arrangement of monitors and stuff. I guess I ought to look before I type. :D

burger
April 7, 2012, 07:03 PM
That is the kind of dog I want in my house hope my dobie would do the same. I know from personal experience that a .22 lr will not always penatrate the skull of animals after skinning my share of raccoons and finding the flattened bullet between the skin and skull.

The-Reaver
April 7, 2012, 07:59 PM
People say I'm crazy because I carry at my house. This just proves that I am right to do so... It used to be the milk man came for your wife when you where not home....

igousigloo
April 7, 2012, 08:55 PM
If I have my pants on, the gun is in my belt. If I don't have my pants on look in my hand!

1858
April 7, 2012, 11:09 PM
If I have my pants on, the gun is in my belt. If I don't have my pants on look in my hand!

You might want to reword that!! :scrutiny:

dcarch
April 8, 2012, 12:28 AM
You might want to reword that!!
My thoughts exactly... :D

allaroundhunter
April 8, 2012, 03:11 AM
either a hard head or a very lite caliber or the angle was all wrong...maybe everything

....I have shot a pit bull with Speer 124 gr +P and a round ricocheted off of the skull....it is all about the angle. Very hardy creatures, but a couple rounds to the vitals will drop them quickly.

If I don't have my pants on look in my hand!

....I'll just take your word for it....

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