Calling Bull Puckey...


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Dimis
April 6, 2012, 02:37 AM
I have been on many gun forums and I always see people telling others that they find all these rare never in stock or otherwise expensive firearms for DIRT cheap

how many of you have posted about AR 15s and heard that you can get the Colt 6920 for less than a grand NEW

or the pre-lock smith and wessons for $350 NIB....:scrutiny:

I always read threads about these great deals and Im finally calling people on it

Show me a single link where I can buy an IN STOCK NEW colt 6920 for under 1000 American Dollars

Show me where I can find a used Smith and Wesson Revolver without a lock for cheap without it being in such poor condition the only value it has left is the S&W logo

Its time the whole gun community gets to enjoy this secret stash of inexpensive guns

so if your THAT GUY and know where we all can get the good stuff for alot less than the average joe give up the goods so the rest of us can afford the ammo for these toys as well

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psyshack
April 6, 2012, 02:44 AM
I buy all my guns NIB or accept used gifts. And I do get good deals on new guns. :)

KAS1981
April 6, 2012, 03:04 AM
I heard that frequently about the Colt 6920 when I was AR shopping.....folks claiming you can find them all day for $900. I never found one less than $1100.

firesky101
April 6, 2012, 03:21 AM
Most of my guns have been bought due to a right place right time scenario. If you are looking for a great deal on a specific model, expect to wait a long time and go to a lot of gun shows/shops. The internet does not work so well for steals since there is such a large buyer base they don't have to sell it for half price to just get rid of it. If you are willing to just spend money on a good deal you can find a use for then you can get one at every gun show/shop.

JShirley
April 6, 2012, 05:17 AM
If you see a nonsense post with links in the sig line, or body, please just report it instead of responding to it.
Thanks,

John

tryshoot
April 6, 2012, 05:20 AM
I want that 64 corvette with 12,000 miles out of that barn also.

Carl N. Brown
April 6, 2012, 07:27 AM
Well, MSRP is a suggested price, and dealers willing to accept a slimmer profit margin can ignore the suggestion in most cases.

You can find an estate sale where they don't know or care about the real value of a gun, or you can find someone in pressing need of 80% of the real value of their gun because of emergency auto repair or medical expenses.

GoWolfpack
April 6, 2012, 08:31 AM
You mean you didn't buy your S&W registered magnum from your buddy at the last gun show for $200? Or your 1st gen LNIB Peacemaker for $500 from your pal who just needed new tires on his car?


I agree, sometimes it's hard to swallow the tales of semi-rare guns sold for half what they're worth to everybody but you.



Keys to success in gun buying:

1. Cash in hand
2. Looking all the time and responding fast to a good deal
3. State/region specific private sale sites


If you have money ready to commit to a purchase and you're ready to jump on it, it is possible to find great deals. Private sales are nearly the only way to do this, as dealers know what a gun is worth and price higher. It takes a lot of looking and a lot of patience. I know, because I've done it just by luck, having money to spend and walking into a gun shop right after they marked the price down on something I wanted.

Davek1977
April 6, 2012, 08:41 AM
Good deals may be hard to find, but certainly not impossible. Patience in finding what you are looking for, and the ability (cash in hand) to buy it when you DO finally find it are keys to a good deal.

Hacker15E
April 6, 2012, 08:46 AM
The "below $1000" Colt was actually true there for a while around the end of 2011 and up until a month or so ago.

There were at least three vendors online that had them at that price.

HoosierQ
April 6, 2012, 08:46 AM
On the whole "Colt's Question": I hate to see people, often here, disparaging other's choice of an AR with the tired line "for $50 more you can have a Colt's". This usually in response to somebody buying their first AR from DPMS, Stag, etc. The cheapest Colt I have ever seen was $1199...and IIRC it was a flat-top with no sights. That bugs me.

I too have searched far and wide for the "good used S&W revolver for a fraction of the price of..." never seen that. If there is a stash of nice old revolvers somewhere, I'd like to see them.

Now the talk of the resonably priced police trade in Glocks etc...sure, that I've seen.

mcdonl
April 6, 2012, 09:26 AM
The only thing that ticks me off is when someone says save your money and buy a colt, and not one of those POS <insert brand here> as no one likes it when others call their guns POS and given the size of this board someone is reading that and thinking... "That is not very high road...."

ColtPythonElite
April 6, 2012, 09:36 AM
I have bought more than one "collector" kinda of gun that was mint, NIB, or otherwise desireable for less than the average going rate. None of these deals were advertised or I likely wouldn't have found them. I just happened to be in the right place at the right time with cash in hand.

Manson
April 6, 2012, 09:37 AM
I like many people have found good prices on a gun I was looking for. Not those you mentioned but new firearms of interest to me.

Several months ago someone mentioned a sig I was looking for was available online from a specific dealer at a very good price. I called my LGS and he said they were a limited run and no longer available. He also said the price was excellent and I should grab one. So I did.

I think this kind of thing happens from time to time. But for the most part there is a lot of horse pockey on the interwebs.

ApacheCoTodd
April 6, 2012, 11:53 AM
So, instead of getting out there, using your shoe leather and hitting estate sales, gun shows in the first hours (or buying from a fella in line with you), gun shop closings, reading the classifieds (EVERY DAY), auctions and generally going out of your way to make yourself available to the opportunities which others have lucked into... It's easier and more self fulfilling to call others who have been in the right place at the right time, liars.
As far as links are concerned, that indicates a retail scenario in which the underpriced items might be in stock and available for shipping, I think most folks who post about lower prices are noting generally one time chances that another individual might also find elsewhere if always looking.
I trip onto amazing deals all the time and sometimes have the cash and sometimes don't but I'm not cluing anyone in in order to compete against them in price or availability unless the item and scenario is repeatable. Call me and others selfish (as well as liars) but I haven't spent all this time to just give up competitive ground for the asking or challenging.

Gordon_Freeman
April 6, 2012, 12:21 PM
I agree. I have seen many posts with exaggerated low prices.

bergmen
April 6, 2012, 12:45 PM
So, instead of getting out there, using your shoe leather and hitting estate sales, gun shows in the first hours (or buying from a fella in line with you), gun shop closings, reading the classifieds (EVERY DAY), auctions and generally going out of your way to make yourself available to the opportunities which others have lucked into... It's easier and more self fulfilling to call others who have been in the right place at the right time, liars.

As far as links are concerned, that indicates a retail scenario in which the underpriced items might be in stock and available for shipping, I think most folks who post about lower prices are noting generally one time chances that another individual might also find elsewhere if always looking.

I trip onto amazing deals all the time and sometimes have the cash and sometimes don't but I'm not cluing anyone in in order to compete against them in price or availability unless the item and scenario is repeatable. Call me and others selfish (as well as liars) but I haven't spent all this time to just give up competitive ground for the asking or challenging.

Very well said!

Dan

CoRoMo
April 6, 2012, 12:46 PM
Show me a single link where I can buy an IN STOCK NEW colt 6920 for under 1000 American Dollars
I can't do that today... because it sold... therefore you can't buy it obviously.

But you had a chance, only 10 days ago. That's a fact. Be patient, and work hard searching, and you could be as lucky.

Here you go, one Factory New, Colt 6920 M4 rifle, sold for under $1k: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=278520294

I know, I know; the price is $999 which is basically $1k, but it's not $1k, in fact it's less. :scrutiny:

I know, I know; there is shipping added... but not if you arrange to pick it up locally. The seller states that he does not collect sales tax, so it would have truly cost you under $1k, had you been that buyer. You would have written the check for $999.00 and walked out the door. :cool:

The no frills 6920 probably wholesales for about $980-$990, and at times a distributor might get a promotional run with Colt and offer them at a sale price of a few percentages below that. That's about the only way you'll get one from a dealer south of $1k. :)

Otherwise, the fellow that recently bought his 6920 for $1,100... and never fired it before he got a divorce and needs fast cash... would probably part with his new rifle for $850 cash. It happens. :D

brnmuenchow
April 6, 2012, 01:05 PM
I know one thing for sure find me a NIB or good condition Colt "Python" for under $1K and I will call "Bull Puckey"-- Most Colt AR's are usually go between $1,200-$1,500 when I was pricing them awhile back.

ColtPythonElite
April 6, 2012, 02:00 PM
Less than a year ago, I sold a decent Python with original grips for $825....and made money on it after owning it for just a few months.

jmr40
April 6, 2012, 02:33 PM
You won't find good deal with links on the internet. Very few good deals on new guns period. But I've ran across more than a few on used guns from individuals who needed to raise cash, right now. I keep about $1,000 in an envelope in my safe for those opportunites. When I run across one of those deals I buy, even if I don't want the gun. I can always sell or trade it later, and at profit to buy something I do want.

About 10 years ago I bought a Colt 1911 for $250 from a guy who needed rent money today. Sold it for $650 2 years ago. Put $50 with it and bought one of the new FN produced Winchesters slightly used. I'm out of pocket $300 on a gun that sells for $1,000.

I buy almost all my guns this way. Have 15-20 guns in my safe that I have no interest in using. They are there for when the time comes that I can sell at a profit, or trade for something I do want.

nosmr2
April 6, 2012, 02:44 PM
Like others have said, you will seldom get a "deal" on the internet. You can find a good price, but deals are found in person. My neighbor works for himself and is always out and about meeting and talking to people. As much as I hate the word, he is "networking." He recently got a 1964 Army Jeep with 24,000 miles in excellent condition free. He is about to sell the boat he got free a few years ago for around $3,000. He has a habit of being at the right place at the right time. I work at the same place every day and talk to the same people. My odds of a "deal" are much less tied to my desk and searching the internet.

walnut1704
April 6, 2012, 02:47 PM
I bought a NIB Python for $350. 30 years ago.

Dimis
April 6, 2012, 03:14 PM
ah there in lies the rub...

Apache I am talking of those who say that the colts are readily available at all times to anyone for under 1000 dollars and that used colt 1911s S&W pre locks and other highly sought after firearms are so common all over the country that ANYONE would be considered a fool to have spent more than a few hundred on them

I am all for the hunt... I accept the challenge of surfing through papers classifieds estate sales and the like but that is not the hoax in question here

the problem lies in the fact that soooo many folks have had this incredible luck that you too should have the same luck

I am a man of absolutes and of science and like science this experiment should be repeatable yet over the last 5 or 6 years that i have used the internet for most of my information gathering I have run across this same false claim over and over again

sure i can believe that you can find an old widow who has no idea what to do with her late husbands firearms
sure its even understood that a dealership goes out of business and just wants to liquidate the stock they have left
but this is a rarity not the norm and these are not the claims of the posts
it is simply stated that these deals are so common that anyone should be able to get them

so now I am simply asking for proof

CoRoMo
April 6, 2012, 03:23 PM
...those who say that the colts are readily available at all times to anyone for under 1000 dollars and that used colt 1911s S&W pre locks and other highly sought after firearms are so common all over the country that ANYONE would be considered a fool to have spent more than a few hundred on them
Can you now, provide US, with a link regarding that?

JustinJ
April 6, 2012, 03:52 PM
Finding many ARs in stock right now is very unlikely with the renewed gun paranioa. ARs seem to also be going up in price but my LGS still carries 6920s for $980 although i'm sure they are on back order. About a year ago they weren't.

redneck2
April 6, 2012, 03:56 PM
A few years back, one LGS had HBAR Colts for maybe $799. Don't remember exactly. I do remember that it was significantly less than $1,000.

Another LGS was bought out. They had multiple TC Contenders on hand. I bought three WAY cheap in a package deal. Sold two on Gunbroker for $50 more than I paid for all three. Got one free.

I have a good friend that is a manager at a rather large construction company. All the guys that work there know he has cash on hand and always wants to buy guns. He gets some absolutely screaming deals. He typically buys them for 50% of their going value. Probably averages at least one a month. Thing is, it's cash NOW. No BS, no "I'll get the money later this month". If you take his offer, he peels off the bills.

As noted, typically these are a one time deal. Also as noted, you gotta be there with real live green cash money in hand. And, you gotta get off your butt and look around. It's amazing how motivated a seller gets when he is desperate for money and sees green folding money.

In my 60 years on this earth, I've seen some deals most of you would never believe. So, if you want these kind of deals I'd spend less time staring at the computer screen and more time looking for deals. Call BS all you want, but they're out there. Not everybody that wants to sell is the expert you are.

HGM22
April 6, 2012, 05:19 PM
I think maybe part of it isn't so much looking for a particular model of firearm, but searching for any sort of good deal.

ApacheCoTodd
April 6, 2012, 05:58 PM
I certainly see the frustration with the mythology of "readily available" and cheap with regards to highly regarded firearms. I misunderstood the OP and share the limited tolerance for the wasted time of unsupported claims from the internet.

JustinJ
April 6, 2012, 07:06 PM
I don't recall reading often, if ever, the claim that Colts are "readily" available. I've said multiple times that they can be had for under a grand and that is absolutely true. If somebody would rather buy lower quality than be patient then that's their mistake.

RCArms.com
April 6, 2012, 07:31 PM
True artists of the Bargain Buy rarely divulge their secrets.

I basically look at it as being bold and decisive, having cash in hand to seal the deal anywhere, and having a golden horseshoe doesn't hurt either.

browningguy
April 6, 2012, 09:45 PM
Well I think you are being a bit harsh, just because you won't/can't put in the effort to find deals like other people do. Here's one I found a year or two ago at one of my regular stops (pawn shop), I go in every couple of weeks even though it's only once a year or so I find something to buy. But they know my face and I'm always very pleasant with them. A like new (appeared to never have been fired) Browning BDA .380 in hard chrome for $300, cash, no haggle.

It's not a Smith or a Colt, but it's still a pretty decent gun significantly below retail. Not all shops are this way but plenty of the pawn shops will be willing to sell something they have just taken in very reasonbly to turn a quick pofit, I wouldn't be surprised if they only gave the owner $100 for it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jcm9371/Pistols/bda-1.jpg

Shear_stress
April 6, 2012, 09:53 PM
Until February, DSG Arms had Colt 6920s for $945. I got free shipping thanks to a coupon code. Do you want to see my receipt? ;)

They've since gone up to $995, but you need to back order them.

I am a man of absolutes and of science and like science this experiment should be repeatable yet over the last 5 or 6 years that i have used the internet for most of my information gathering I have run across this same false claim over and over again

As someone in the sciences, I can tell you that the scientific process has little use for absolutes. Discoveries are made based on a statistical rejection of evidence of "no difference", not on what someone declares is "absolutely" this or that.

redneck2
April 6, 2012, 10:24 PM
I have a good friend that was driving down the road and sees what appears to be a really nice 5th wheel camper. Sign says $3,500. He thinks "naw, gotta be $35,000". Drives just a very short while, turns around, and goes to look at it.

Sure enough, at closer look the sign clearly says $3,500. He looks inside. Appears brand new. Elderly lady answers the door. He says "is $3,500 the right price on the trailer?" All indignant she says "yes".

He gives her every dime he has on him and then pulls down the sign. Can't get to the bank too quick.

Turns out the camper had been used once. Her husband died and she just wanted rid of it ASAP.

I worked at an LGS for a while. We gave people 50% of what we thought a gun would sell for.

ApacheCoTodd
April 6, 2012, 10:34 PM
On the same weekend I got a 73 Moto Guzzi Eldorado for $350 and a perfect Mossberg 590 with ghost ring sights for $170. Right place right time but I wouldn't go about telling folk it's the norm. That's just crazy talk.

fgr39
April 6, 2012, 10:36 PM
I know a place where you can buy a colt 6920 for low price of $3000

bbuddtec
April 6, 2012, 10:42 PM
For some ppl, the best deal they got is just a few words away... doesn't mean everyone's a liar, just means we shouldn't place such a value on other ppl's "luck"
if it came to nothing, they might not even do it, but I doubt it, some ppl I work with will do it whether or not they get any recognition out of it or not. I guess there's pathologicals out there, listener beware... :D

PS =There's a lowballer around every turn too... LOL

huntsman
April 6, 2012, 10:48 PM
So, instead of getting out there, using your shoe leather and hitting estate sales, gun shows in the first hours (or buying from a fella in line with you), gun shop closings, reading the classifieds (EVERY DAY), auctions and generally going out of your way to make yourself available to the opportunities which others have lucked into... It's easier and more self fulfilling to call others who have been in the right place at the right time, liars.

For some gun buyers the whole search is online, kinda sad but that's all they know.

I always overpay for my guns according to my wife. ;)

shootniron
April 6, 2012, 10:59 PM
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=6920

The 6920 was available at the above link from fall of 2011 thru about 2 weeks ago for $950.00...and that ain't no "Bull Puckey". Now they are $1050.00...

TanklessPro
April 6, 2012, 11:38 PM
In my 60 years on this earth, I've seen some deals most of you would never believe. So, if you want these kind of deals I'd spend less time staring at the computer screen and more time looking for deals. Call BS all you want, but they're out there. Not everybody that wants to sell is the expert you are.

I agree, if you want a good deal you have to put your "feet on the street". From my experiences the internet is not a good place for deals. You get fair deals at best. The LGS I frequent can beat buds any day of the week.
Would a good deal be a like new S&W 620 for less than $400 out the door? It's not a 686 but I thought it was a good deal. Cheapest on GB 700+ shipping.

Smokin Gator
April 7, 2012, 01:29 AM
Originally Posted by ApacheCoTodd
"So, instead of getting out there, using your shoe leather and hitting estate sales, gun shows in the first hours (or buying from a fella in line with you), gun shop closings, reading the classifieds (EVERY DAY), auctions and generally going out of your way to make yourself available to the opportunities which others have lucked into... It's easier and more self fulfilling to call others who have been in the right place at the right time, liars"

When someone gets out there going to a bunch of gun shows, estate sales, gun shop closings, auctions and going over the classified adds for hours at a time, spending who knows how many hours and dollars for entry fees and gas and commisions and then finally finds a gun for maybe a couple of hundred dollars cheaper and then fails to include all that time and money spent when bragging about their "savings". That is what some people are referring to on some of these internet boasts. Someone having to put that much effort in to "saving" one or two hundred bucks is not actually getting a great deal. If you happen to fall into a deal right off the bat, that's differnent. Of course people run into great deals. But not all of these deals are actually that great.

I've seen guys who have credit at a shop or trade in a gun on a deal and then they will claim that the amount of cash they paid is the price they got the gun for, conveniently forgetting to include the tradein or the credit they had.

If I find the gun I want at a decent (not fantastic) price, I'm not going to spend months and a couple of hundred dollars searching to not actually save any money. Mark

shootniron
April 7, 2012, 01:49 AM
When someone gets out there going to a bunch of gun shows, estate sales, gun shop closings, auctions and going over the classified adds for hours at a time, spending who knows how many hours and dollars for entry fees and gas and commisions and then finally finds a gun for maybe a couple of hundred dollars cheaper and then fails to include all that time and money spent when bragging about their "savings". That is what some people are referring to on some of these internet boasts. Someone having to put that much effort in to "saving" one or two hundred bucks is not actually getting a great deal. If you happen to fall into a deal right off the bat, that's differnent. Of course people run into great deals. But not all of these deals are actually that great.

I've seen guys who have credit at a shop or trade in a gun on a deal and then they will claim that the amount of cash they paid is the price they got the gun for, conveniently forgetting to include the tradein or the credit they had.

If I find the gun I want at a decent (not fantastic) price, I'm not going to spend months and a couple of hundred dollars searching to not actually save any money. Mark

X 2

False economy to look the world over to find a "good deal". If I can't find it online with a little looking (as I normally can), I just pay the going rate locally and move on.

tnelson31
April 7, 2012, 08:10 AM
It is the internet, collecting thousands of readers per writer. Of couse there are real deals, and people are getting them. Just don't think everyone can get the same deals. Free market, supply and demand. If the internet poster isn't logical, the reader still can be.

I do not have time to find real deals, but when they find me I try to take advantage of them. Typically, though, I have already spent my money on crap from the internet. :)

redneck2
April 7, 2012, 09:05 AM
the problem lies in the fact that soooo many folks have had this incredible luck that you too should have the same luckIt's kinda like The American Pickers show on TV. The reason they find that stuff is that they're willing to dig thru dirty old barns and junk piles to find the good stuff. It usually isn't just laying on a table in a nice clean retail store around the corner waiting on you.

False economy to look the world over to find a "good deal". If I can't find it online with a little looking (as I normally can), I just pay the going rate locally and move on.I'm in sales and have an eleven county area that I cover. All of NW Indiana. I stop at gun shops when I'm driving by. If you had to pay for the gas and make a special trip for each visit, it would be way too expensive.

If I see an estate sale, I try to stop. Typically you have to ask if they have any guns. I know a guy that did that all the time. Lady walks into the house and comes out with a pristine older Winchester. $200. Guy snatches it up. She goes in and brings out another for about the same price. In all, he gets over twenty guns, all about 1/3 of what they'd want in the LGS.

I'd been looking for a GOOD set of binos. Couple weeks ago I bought a pair of Leupolds at the Cabelas in Hammond, IN. The eye cup was bad. Originally about $425, I got them for $189. Sent them back to Leupold for repair and got back a brand new updated pair of Leupold Mojave-3 10x50s a few weeks later. I've got a little less than $215 total invested. You can look up the going price, but it's typically in the $450 range.

There is another pair exactly the same right now. They've probably sold a dozen new sets while those have stayed in the case. Any of those buyers could have done the same deal I did. In fact, I've got two friends that like mine and would love a deal like the one I got. When I tell them about the ones there, they just shrug if off. Too much effort I guess. Even when it's right in front of them, they don't jump on it.

Malachi Leviticus Blue
April 7, 2012, 11:10 AM
There are lots of deals out there to be had on just about everything, even guns. I find a deal on a firearm at 50% or less of retail at least once a week. Sometimes I take it sometimes I don't. I don't think it's reasonable to expect an awesome deal to be easy to find. If it was, obviously someone else can just find it first. Those deals are not going to wait around for you. Great deals go fast, then they are gone. If you don't want to look for them then your probably going to have to pay full price. To each his own, for some of us the Chase is better than the Catch.

Smokin Gator
April 7, 2012, 12:48 PM
"There are lots of deals out there to be had on just about everything, even guns. I find a deal on a firearm at 50% or less of retail at least once a week. Sometimes I take it sometimes I don't. I don't think it's reasonable to expect an awesome deal to be easy to find. If it was, obviously someone else can just find it first. Those deals are not going to wait around for you. Great deals go fast, then they are gone. If you don't want to look for them then your probably going to have to pay full price. To each his own, for some of us the Chase is better than the Catch"

That's fine if someone actually gets that much enjoyment out of the search to find a particular gun at a lower price. It's kind of like someone that finds reloading an enjoyable hobby instead of a chore to save money on ammo. But if the time, effort and costs plus the price of the cheaper gun add up to near the original price of the gun that was easily found, money was not actually saved. Mark

berettashotgun
April 7, 2012, 01:13 PM
Went to the lake a few years back, driving to a restaurant and my g.f screams - "stop, that storage unit is having a garage sale" - while driving 50-60 mph looking down a side road, about 75-100 yards from the intersection she noticed a PAPER PLATE with "sale" scribbled on it with a BIC ROLLER BALL pen.
Ended up buying a LNIB rem 788 RIFLE ( not carbine) in 223 from a guy for $75 sans mag because his son had went to prison and couldn't own a gun. Next gun show, fella has a whole stack of factory packaged rem 788 mags-I buy all 8 for $40.
Co-worker had an "old" pistol for sale because of a divorce ( and he had really small hands ) - super clean S&W 1006 with 4 boxes of original Norma loaded ammo and the half full w/brass he fired , he didn't know I'd been looking for months for this exact pistol. $350 then and there.
I bought a remington KS 338 ultramag for $985 ONLINE 2 years ago from a whole sale clearance vendor. I thought the price was a fluke.:)
Good deals always seem to happen when the sun,moon,stars align.
No other time, everytime I look - nothing, but saying your prayers and living right seems to help:D

kimberkid
April 8, 2012, 02:00 PM
The "below $1000" Colt was actually true there for a while around the end of 2011 and up until a month or so ago.

There were at least three vendors online that had them at that price.
Yesterday at Walmart they had the Colt 6920 for $1070 ... But I'm sure I saw them a month or so ago for $999

OARNGESI
April 8, 2012, 07:20 PM
two or three weeks ago i bought a colt le6920 with magpul stock for under 1000 before taxes. the gun was stickered at $1097 at walmart and i get a 10% discount

brnmuenchow
April 9, 2012, 02:38 PM
I bought a NIB Python for $350. 30 years ago.

Add 30 years from today and it will be more like $2,500. (NIB) ;)

Most of the good to NIB almost Colt anything are going to be priced high. I am sad to say that other than my father and I, most of the people in our circles don't want to pay the Colt prices so they go with a non- Colt variant. The problem is that after a while most of them wish they had just saved the extra and just got the Colt model. My father still even to this day wants a Colt "Python" (I am the only one in the family with one) but is just not able to bring himself to pay that price for a used gun. Even though he has said it is worth it, figure that logic. :confused:

ol' scratch
April 9, 2012, 02:51 PM
The best deals I have found have been on Milsurp and C & R's. I have a license, so that saves me some. It is hard to beat getting a P64 Polish Radom for $160 dollars. Vendors? The CMP is the one that comes to mind. I have happened into other deals as well. I picked up 4 1903 Springfields for $150 each ranging in condition from very good to just a barreled receiver with a rusty barrel. I got a surplus FN Browning Hi Power off gun broker for $325 a year ago. I had to wait and search a while to find exactly what I wanted. I do occationally run into other things as well, but you have to be willing to search.

lloveless
April 11, 2012, 01:59 AM
Look for stuff at pawn shops. Get to know the owners. Let them know what you are looking for, and then follow up frequently.
ll

doc2rn
April 11, 2012, 02:37 AM
I too have searched far and wide for the "good used S&W revolver for a fraction of the price of..." never seen that. If there is a stash of nice old revolvers somewhere, I'd like to see them.

Go to Buds website they have PO S&W trade ins for $269

There ya go Hoosier Q!

shiftyer1
April 11, 2012, 02:52 AM
Does it happen YES.......does it happen often NO. Be patient you'll find your score!

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