[sturmgewehr]

I discovered this bandoleer system at a gun writers gathering I attended a few weeks back. I brought one home with me to check out and it has quickly become my favorite method for carrying spare magazines when I'm out and about with a rifle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs55GeK_Qog

They make them specifically for your type of rifle. They offer pouches for the AR15, AK47 and AK74.

It's so simple and useful it makes me think, "why didn't I think of this?"

[fireman 9731]

Looks like a nice man purse to me...

[dprice3844444]

galati international.

[sturmgewehr]

A man-purse for AK mags. :evil:

[arizona98tj]

Looks OK.

What year TJ was that? Sahara...about '98 or so?

[proven]

this is what i use....
http://www.mainemilitary.com/productcart/pc/catalog/mollebandolierpouch.jpg

holds 6 mags and can be had for less than $10 shipping included.

yours looks nice too. i really like the closure tabs. thanks for the vid.

[why.kyle]

That's a really interesting product.. Very interesting concept. Might get one when they come out with other colors

Proven: where did you find that magazine pouch?

[19-3Ben]

Wow. Usually I can't stand to watch those kinds of youtube videos from beginning to end, like those by nutnfancy and even Hickok45 (although the latter is more tolerable than the former).
Yours was actually interesting and engaging. Looks like a good products. I would get one for my SKS-M, obviously set up for the AK mags. I don't know that I can justify $65 on it, but when i get some disposable income it might be worth looking into. It would really have to be much better than the soviet surplus ak mag pouches that I bought from Centerfire Systems for something like $3 each a few years back. Those things are pretyt darn rugged. Of course they have both leather and metal on them, so susceptibility to elements is more of an issue for the surplus mag pouches than for the ones you demonstrated. Than again, my SKS-M is blued steel in a wood stock. Not exactly weather proof anyway. I'm kinda low-speed/high-drag.

Thanks so much for demonstrating the product for us.

[nathan]

Wow, that s a great product. The original CHicom AK chest rig has now evolved to an even better user product. If they could priced that in the $40 bucks range that will be a seller.

http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Bandoleers,1388.htm

[proven]

why.kyle, they can be found on ebay all the time, and most army surplus places will have them too.

[Rshooter]

My favorite

http://olongapooutfitters.com/

They do not use parachute rigging but the traditional velcro. They also hold eight magazines.

[Shoobee]

First, you need to ask yourself, how many magazines would you actually ever need, in your situation?

The answer is probably only two, one for your rifle, and one for your pocket.

You can reload the one in your pocket while you are taking cover with the other one in your rifle.

A regular military cloth bandoleer with "clips" of cartridges together with a speedloader would then work well, as any infantry knows, in addition to however many mags they need for the given assault operation.

It all depends if you are training for a military infantry direct assault, or a more practical situation tuned to yourself and your own likely circumstances.

https://www.buymilsurp.com/charger-for-ar15-m16-magazines-p-3182.html

http://s661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/hangman7/Stripper%20Clips/?action=view&current=P1020450.jpg

[proven]

shoobee, are you saying that as "any infantry knows" you only need to carry two mags and then just carry strippers and spoons?

[Shoobee]

The infantry carry cloth bandoleers in addtion to however many loaded mags they need for the assault.

The point of my reply is that OP/Sturmgewehr needs to consider WHAT he is likely to be doing in his own circumstances. Ergo is he really in Afghanistan? So would he ever need infantry equipment??

[Sam1911]

The point of my reply is that OP/Sturmgewehr needs to consider WHAT he is likely to be doing in his own circumstances. Ergo is he really in Afghanistan? So would he ever need infantry equipment??
Perhaps he shoots 3-gun competition. Perhaps he participates in carbine training classes. Gonna need a lot more than two mags to do either of those.

Perhaps he shoots prarie dogs and walks a long way to his shooting point.

Perhaps he just likes them.

What difference does it make? If you're interested in these products, great. If not, why bother to post?

And, having seen a number of Sturmgewehr's posts and videos I'll suggest that he really doesn't need to do a whole bunch more "considering" about whether he needs this or not. It's a flippin' product review! As his purpose here is to, you know, review the product, then I guess he NEEDS one! :rolleyes:

("...would he ever need infantry equipment...?" He's got a bloody semi-automatic version of an infantry carbine!!! Would he ever really need that? :rolleyes:)

[clone]

Hmm, I bought one of these (http://www.specialforces.com/image/data/standard/MS8-0962-large1.jpg) at a yard sale for a $1. Works quite well for my SKS. Holds 200 rounds, 300 of you stuff them in there. ;)

Quite handy for plinking.

[Dr.Rob]

The closures are pretty slick. I'm not sure it's $65 worth of slick.

The straps look better than Midway's offering: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/939189814/midwayusa-4-magazine-pouch-ar-15-and-ak-47-rifle

Of course Midway's are likely made in China like their range bags and cases, but for occasional use the price point is hard to beat.

[sturmgewehr]

What year TJ was that? Sahara...about '98 or so?
It's a 2000. It's been a great Jeep and I'll keep it until it finally dies (which is hopefully many years down the road).

[sturmgewehr]

I don't know that I can justify $65 on it, but when i get some disposable income it might be worth looking into. It would really have to be much better than the soviet surplus ak mag pouches that I bought from Centerfire Systems for something like $3 each a few years back. Those things are pretyt darn rugged. Of course they have both leather and metal on them, so susceptibility to elements is more of an issue for the surplus mag pouches than for the ones you demonstrated. Than again, my SKS-M is blued steel in a wood stock. Not exactly weather proof anyway. I'm kinda low-speed/high-drag.
Cost is one of those relative things. For me, for something I really like and will use for years $65 doesn't seem overly expensive. But everyone's price pain point is different.

I'm glad you liked the review and could sit through the whole thing. :D I try to keep my videos short, to the point and cover only the info that I believe is relevant without too much added fluff. It's the style I developed after watching lots of YouTube videos myself and thinking I could do things differently.

[sturmgewehr]

This isn't designed for the Infantry Soldier in mind. It's designed primarily for the prepared citizen. How many mags do I think I need? As many as I can comfortably carry. This pouch is small, unassuming and holds 3 mags. For me, that works perfectly.

Ironically, I've had a number of patrol officers on local departments fall in love with this pouch and they're now using them. It is small, light, can be kept mostly out of the way and when they jump out of their car and grab their carbine, it's easy to toss this on over their gear for 3 extra mags.

[Shoobee]

Ok so what is the prepared civilian preparing for?

Bugging out?

While bugging out, you would want a pistol of some kind with several loaded magazines, sure.

Or a shotgun with a bandoleer, that makes sense.

It just does not seem to serve any civil purpose to have a rifle magazine pouch with 3 pouches on it stuck to your chest. Only an infantry soldier going into combat would ever need something like that, realistically speaking. Although he would want to hold 6 mags in them.

Also think about this. You are wearing 3 loaded mags on your chest. Bullet goes into one of the mags, sets of a primer, discharge starts a cook off in the mag, and now you have a nice hot flare cooking your chest.

You can pickup a lot safer mag pouch at any G/I surplus store, it will hold 3 mags, and it will fit onto a cartridge belt, on your hip, safely.

I believe in shotgun bandoleers and pistol mag pouches though.

[No4Mk1*]

A bullet hitting my chest directly or having to go thru 1 or 2 loaded mags on the way to my heart is an easy choice. I actually think that is the most useful feature of wearing lots of mags around your chest. Might really slow down a pistol bullet.

[Sam1911]

It just does not seem to serve any civil purpose to have a rifle magazine pouch with 3 pouches on it stuck to your chest. Only an infantry soldier going into combat would ever need something like that, realistically speaking.
What is this "civil purpose" flak? I pointed out several 'valid' uses before, to say nothing of the completely 'invalid' reasons like simply having three mags handy next to the rifle when you grab it to head out the door ... like, oh, to the range maybe, or even if you think you need to go somewhere (or STAY somewhere) where it is important to have a carbine with you.

As magazines are the primary failure point of all auto-loading firearms, having a spare or two with you is just smart. Most of the folks I know carry a couple spare magazines for their carry pistol. Not because they think they'll need 50 or 60 rounds, but because mags fail and a quick reload is much more likely to keep you in the fight. Why would a rifle be ANY different?

And why are you so hung up on what the "civil" purpose of a magazine pouch is? Why are you trying so hard to define away any "need" for this? If you don't want one, don't BUY one. :scrutiny:

Also think about this. You are wearing 3 loaded mags on your chest. Bullet goes into one of the mags, sets of a primer, discharge starts a cook off in the mag, and now you have a nice hot flare cooking your chest.Oh...kay. So this bullet is going to pass through the cartridge and mag, and you're worried about getting burned? Kind of like being concerned that if you get hit by a dump truck you might break your glasses...;)

If a round does get set off outside a gun chamber, it pops like a firecracker. Bang -- done. The bullet doesn't go anywhere and the cartridge case bursts, but generally doesn't do much harm. It doesn't sit there and burn. And one round that pops doesn't set off the whole mag full of cartridges, either. "Cook off" requires a lot of heat over a fairly lengthy period of time. Like a round left sitting in a VERY hot machine gun barrel, or rounds thrown into a fire. Not at all the same thing as one nearby round popping off -- on the very unlikely event that that even did happen.

I believe in shotgun bandoleers and pistol mag pouches though. Errrr....because while a rifle cartridge will "cook off" and burn you, pistol and shotgun shells CAN'T? While the premise isn't a good one anyway, this isn't even internally consistent.

A bullet hitting my chest directly or having to go thru 1 or 2 loaded mags on the way to my heart is an easy choice. I actually think that is the most useful feature of wearing lots of mags around your chest. Might really slow down a pistol bullet.There have indeed been instances of bullets (probably mostly spent already, and/or ricochets) being deflected or stopped by mags in LBE vests. I doubt I'd plan on that, but lucky is better than good, right? :)

[ECVMatt]

I like and like the idea. I don't mind paying Americans more for American made products, so the 10 dollar Chinese copies don't interest me. I would rather wait a couple of weeks and save up to buy American, than buy cheap Chinese. I am glad to see folks trying to improve on existing ideas...

To add to the prepared citizen angle...I can not bug out of my location. I am right on the beach in LA. That means I need to stay and protect my family. During the last riots, we loaded up everything and kept it behind the door to use if needed. It would nice to have some equipment on and concealed rather than laid out behind the door. I would wear this under a sweater, be better prepared, and not draw attention. Seems like a good deal to me.

[happygeek]

The infantry carry cloth bandoleers in addtion to however many loaded mags they need for the assault.


On their person or in a vehicle? I've never seen, or even heard of, anyone carrying bandoleers full of stripper clips into battle.

That speed loader they're selling for $2 comes in each bandoleer along with 4 boxes of 3 clips each (120 rounds total). IMHO it's not nearly as easy to use as the after market speed loaders you can get for a few bucks more.

[Jeff F]

Ok so what is the prepared civilian preparing for?

Bugging out?


How about just trying to get home if something bad happens. I work at least 50 miles from where I live.

You can pickup a lot safer mag pouch at any G/I surplus store, it will hold 3 mags, and it will fit onto a cartridge belt, on your hip, safely.


Carrying a bunch of weight on a belt on your hips is going to wear you out if you have to walk a long ways unless that belt is hooked to some good suspenders or a load bearing harness.

Or a shotgun with a bandoleer, that makes sense.


Makes sense to me also if a shotgun was in my jeep, a Mini 14 is my truck longarm.

It just does not seem to serve any civil purpose to have a rifle magazine pouch with 3 pouches on it stuck to your chest. Only an infantry soldier going into combat would ever need something like that, realistically speaking. Although he would want to hold 6 mags in them.


So I guess that surplus alice pack in the back of my jeep with a couple MRE's, water, first aid kit, compass and map, lighter, knife, multi tool, fence pliers, 100 ft of para cord and 40 ft of climbing rope does not serve any civil purpose because its all in an alice pack.

[Piston]

Hmmm...saw pouch with a strap...carried all over the world...

[X-Rap]

I bought one of these for everyone in my family a couple yrs ago.http://www.reactgear.com/Blackhawk-Battle-Bag-p/60bb2-p.htm
Sportsman Warehouse had them on sale for around $60 an I thought it was a good product to keep in the car or truck. It is more than one needs to just carry a few spare mags but so the Op's pouch fills that niche very well. Will they close with PMags? I have some 6 mag surplus bandoleers but they won't close with PMags so they aren't my first choice. Many of the surplus 3 mag pouches won't close with the PMags either.
I can't believe anyone being critical of keeping some basic gear organized and ready in a functional package and in todays world I hardly consider that strictly for the infantry.

[henschman]

"Civil purpose?" What about the original Second Amendment purpose, which is protecting your liberty against anyone who might threaten it? You know, the duty of every free man who wishes to stay that way? It seems like the ability to carry a bunch of rifle mags in the field might fit into that purpose pretty well.

[X-Rap]

Good point, I think most of the Minute Men of old worked on the principle of having their weapon and associated gear ready for quick use.

[praharin]

I believe in shotgun bandoleers and pistol mag pouches though.

I believe in the tooth fairy...

http://troll.me/images/facepalm-picard/you-are-the-worst-troll-ever-thumb.jpg

If you can see a use for a pistol or shotgun, why not a carbine? The concept of the carbine (such as the M4 or AK) was developed to operate in the envelope of the pistol and shotgun (0-50 yards, more or less) and beyond (out to 300+ or so) without the weight of a full sized rifle.

[SwissArmyDad]

Looks like a very well made, very well thought out product.

Not sure I'd have a reason to pick one of these up, but I definitely see the usefullness factor.

I personally use a maxpedition condor II pack when our family is out camping. I LOVE the fact that it has a lined CCW spot, as having my pistol on me at all times is a priority, but simply isn't very comfy to have on my beltline when hiking.

That piece of gear is not cheap either, but having owned it for about 5-10 years, and having it still look essentially " as good as new" speaks to the quality that i paid for.

I think if I got into gun games, and/or wanted a simple rig to hold mags to go along with our families bug-out bag/earthquake kit, this would be what i'd buy.

[Shoobee]

If you can see a use for a pistol or shotgun, why not a carbine? The concept of the carbine (such as the M4 or AK) was developed to operate in the envelope of the pistol and shotgun (0-50 yards, more or less) and beyond (out to 300+ or so) without the weight of a full sized rifle.

Three rifle mags can much more safely and easily be carried in a regular mag pouch on your belt or cartridge belt, that is the first reason.

A pistol mag pouch also fits well onto a cartridge belt. I use 4 of them.

A shotgun is truly the only long gun for which an actual bandoleer is useful. I use one of these too and it holds 50 shells.

Although the cloth bandoleers which are really bandoleers can be useful if the civil need ever arose with a rifle, they come in the ammo boxes with the surplus 5.56 when you buy it.

These chest mounted mag pouches are being called a bandoleer when they are really not a bandoleer. They seem more like an albatross. It seems like a GI Joe solution without a problem to fix. I would not do a production run because I doubt there would be sufficient cost recovery. That's my sincere product evaluation. Ergo, I would never buy it.

[Sam1911]

Three rifle mags can much more safely and easily be carried in a regular mag pouch on your belt or cartridge belt, that is the first reason.We dispensed with the "safety" theory back up in post 23. So that's a non-issue.

"Easily" depends on you and your equipment and whatever else you're carrying. Personally, I don't much care for rifle mags hanging on my belt. They're big, awkward, and heavy (a hassle when sitting, too), and I've already usually got more general-use gear on my belt. I don't usually carry a LOT of other small gear, so a load-bearing vest is a overkill. Why buckle on 20 empty pockets so I can carry 3 mags easily? (Or wear 76 empty MOLLE loops?) This little pouch seems to put mags just where I'd like to have them with very minimal extra bulk or fuss.

Even wikipedia knows this:
The bandolier was used to keep ammunition off a soldier's hips, as carrying too much weight on the hips can constrain movement and cause difficulty in retrieving the ammunition.

A pistol mag pouch also fits well onto a cartridge belt. I use 4 of them.What in heaven's name do you carry FOUR pistol mags for? There's no civil purpose for toting around that much pistol ammo!

A shotgun is truly the only long gun for which an actual bandoleer is useful.So, considering all the various uses we've suggested for a rifle mag pouch such as this, that statement seems incorrect.

Shotshell bandoleers are slow and a waste of space, by the way. A dump bag of shells is a lot more space-efficient, and no slower. You can even wear it on your belt if you want! ;)

These chest mounted mag pouches are being called a bandoleer when they are really not a bandoleer. You know what, that's actually true. They do not fit the definition of a traditional bandoleer. Is that why you're so opposed to them?

It seems like a GI Joe solution without a problem to fix.Why post any of this, then? If you don't have interest in the product, why continue to comment on it? Do you wish it wasn't made? Are you trying to get other people not to buy ... not just this item, but any items like this? What value is there, to you, in doing so?

[Shoobee]

What in heaven's name do you carry FOUR pistol mags for? There's no civil purpose for toting around that much pistol ammo!


Your fastest response to a close-in confrontation will be to draw a holstered firearm.

50 rounds in 5 mags +1 is a safe supply. Run into the wrong gang and you might actually need all of those.


Shotshell bandoleers are slow and a waste of space, by the way. A dump bag of shells is a lot more space-efficient, and no slower. You can even wear it on your belt if you want!


There are only a few places you can put shotgun shells and have them easily accessible --

- in the tubular magazine (8 + 1 on my Mossberg)

- on the stock in a shell holder

- in your jacket pockets

- on a bandoleer

- in a dump pack.

Each of them is good, all of them are best.

[proven]

shoobee, how do you see 50 rds for a pistol as a safe supply....but there's no civil need for three rifle/carbine mags?

half of what you've posted makes no sense whatsoever. you wouldn't do a production run? you doubt there would be sufficient cost recovery? what hole do you live in? it sure must be deep. chest rigs, bandoleers, etc sell all the time in many different configurations.

[Shoobee]

You grabs yo pistol first thing when the enemy is within 5 yards.

You grabs yo shotgun for 5.1 to 50 yards.

You can grabs yo riffle fo further than that, but yo dont gots to go around with 3 riffle mags in pouches on yo chest alla time. A detached mag pouch fo yo belt is fine. Yo gonna gets lotsa time to clip it on laytah.

If yo is married to tha riffle and gots no pistol oh shotgun then yo is un-pre-pared.

[proven]

you grabs what you wants, and i'll grab what i wants.

deal?

find another soapbox.

[happygeek]

You can grabs yo riffle fo further than that, but yo dont gots to go around with 3 riffle mags in pouches on yo chest alla time. A detached mag pouch fo yo belt is fine. Yo gonna gets lotsa time to clip it on laytah.


http://i2.listal.com/image/3170297/500full.jpg

[praharin]

You grabs yo pistol first thing when the enemy is within 5 yards.

You grabs yo shotgun for 5.1 to 50 yards.

You can grabs yo riffle fo further than that,


I'm going to pretend to take you seriously for a minute. Why not grab a carbine, and be good from 0-300 yards?

Other than your presumption that it's somehow faster to draw a sidearm than shoulder a rifle, that is...

[Husker_Fan]

This is one of the more creative trolls I've seen here. Kudos.

[unlimited4x4]

Sturmgewer, thanks for posting this. I am new to the AR world. I am halfway through building my first and have. I have been reading threads to figure how people carry extra mags. I see a lot of tactical vests, but not sure if I need one of those for all situations. Your thread got me looking in another direction. Thanks for taking the time to post it and thanks to everyone following up with additional useful posts.

[GI_Jared]

I love bandoleers, but I would save the money and just by the surplus military ones that you can get on Ebay. I had one left from when I was in the Army and just picked up two more for $6 a piece with free shipping.

[armoredman]

I have this terrible habit of answering questions with pictures...so bear with me.
First, member Shoobee is in California, and probably has his knowledge and ideas shaped by that repressive society. I am in Arizona, shall we say a wee bit "freer", especially in firearms laws.
My state has a lot of wide open areas, and entire sections that are posted "off limits" by the federal government, "ceded" to the cartels, if you will. One such section is about 40 miles from my house. I sometimes travel far on open roads, so I follow the advice of a 23 year homicide detective Sergeant...and take a rifle with me. Why? Well, two reasons, while I can hit a target at 25 yards in the 8 ring 99% of the time with my Phantom, and I'll bet I can hit at 50 yards, there are wide open vistas out here that go a lot longer than that. Two, because I can and I don't have to ask anyone's permission. :) I don't anticipate running into any serious trouble - I wouldn't go if I did, let the Marines handle that type of issue. :) But, just like a spare tire and the incredibly important water, (5 gallons on board), I feel a good rifle could be an important piece of equipage for those wide open spaces.
Meet my traveling companion. SA vz-58 with TRS-25 red dot and Israeli sling.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz-58%20targets/travelcompanion.jpg

This is how it travels with me.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz-58%20targets/vz58inUTGbag.jpg

Surprise, this is 100% legal. And when it's zipped up it doesn't look like a rifle case. Shown unzipped because I just did these and was in a hurry.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz-58%20targets/bagclosedbutnotzipped.jpg

I can and have carried this in public with no alarms or second glances. When this goes to the range the neighbors don't know what's in there. :) I did mention with Constitutional Carry or the CCW permit this IS totally legal, right?

But that's 30 rounds...holy mackerel, I should be able to handle ANYTHING with 30 rounds, right? Sure, but I also subscribe to the bad magazine theory, and when Mr Murphy decides to pay a visit, it's ALWAYS at a really bad time. So, enter my ersatz bandoleer.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz-58%20targets/vz58withtravelmags.jpg

Yes, that's a leather trousers belt with a two mag M-16 ALICE pouch, see the mags?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz-58%20targets/opentravelmags.jpg

And it fits in the travel bag.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz-58%20targets/vz-58intravelmode.jpg

I wish I could indeed afford that nice pouch shown in the beginning, because hauling THIS one around would be a HUGE pain. ;) Blackhawk, gathering dust as we speak.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz-58%20targets/chestpouch.jpg

What was the point of all this? I believe in the carbine/rifle as a great means of self defense in certain circumstances, and I believe in trying to keep it to hand IF it might be possibly necessary, which I fervently hope it will NOT be. I also subscribe to the spare mag theory, and use my own poorly setup bag to do exactly that. So yes, the 3 mag bandoleer that the OP showed could indeed be a useful piece of equipment for both LEO and civlian, plus might be a really good item for the new State Guard...I mean, Special Missions Unit..which is almost approved. Maybe I'll suggest it to the bill originator. ;)
Thanks STG, was fun watching, and maybe someday I'll squeeze the nickle until the buffalo dumps to get one, so I can retire this get up. :)

[henschman]

armoredman, that is a very practical and well-thought-out truck gun setup and accouterments. One of the best I've seen.

There's not a thing wrong with having some decent firepower with you wherever you go. Better to have it and not need it than the other way around, right?

For those who haven't caught it yet, the benefit of a bandolier/man purse over a "war belt" or chest rig is that it is a lot quicker to toss a bandolier over your shoulder than it is to put on the other stuff, in the event that you need to scoot and shoot. The other setups are more for when you are going out into the field expecting trouble, but aren't knee deep in it yet. A bandolier is for when you need to grab your rifle and some ammo and move out RFN!!!

Ergo, the bandolier makes a lot of sense for the homestead defense or truck gun roles.

[X-Rap]

A bandoleer also works well to augment what ever one might have as their primary "war belt", quickly having 3-6 more mags on top of what ever you have beats the heck out of a bunch of strippers in pouches plus the spoons don't work on Pmags.

[Hunterdad]

My wife has the same one, only in pink.

[Shoobee]

Nice setup, Armoredman-In-AZ.

You have exactly what I would recommend, a single mag pouch with 3 rifle mags in it, on a belt of its own.

That's about all anybody needs, for their zombie rifle. Nice set up.

I do wish the California legislature were as enlightened and ethical as Arizona's. I have no hope this will ever happen however. Therefore I am relying on the NRA and the US Supreme Court to fix California and every other rebellious state (which includes every state except Arizona).

[SwissArmyDad]

As far as california goes: Pretty sure long guns are not under scrutiny when it comes to open carry on public land. One can still use a rifle or shotgun on their land for varmints outside of city limits and there are still big wide open places to shoot out the desert/forests.

Also, longguns don't have to be locked in vehicles, just unloaded, and are welcome in most national/state parks. If you shoot say, a bear, in self-defense you WILL be scrutinized as to your choice to do so, but if there's reasonable evidence that you were being attacked, you'll be fine.

They're also very much usable during a solid "shoot to stop" home invasion situation.

Just wanted to add a bit of clarity as to the state of Cali's gun laws, for those there who might be thinking about this type of rifle/mag pouch setup. :)

[armoredman]

Shoobee, I wish it was a three mag pouch, but it's an old 2 mag pouch, gives three mags total. It throws on over my shoulder to be an instant man purse. :) I would like a different pouch someday that is either velcro or some other fastener, as the plastic clip on the front of that puppy can be a little awkward to manage under stress.
It works for now, and thank you all for the positive comments - the pictures sure were hurried, and show it.

[sgtstryker]

It looks like a good piece of gear, to me. A good way to transport three extra mags in a comfortable and accessible spot. The Blackhawk chest pouch is a load with 240 rds of 5.56 and two G17 mags, but it feels good to know it's there, if needed. Being a civilian now, means I can choose my gear on want, need and cost. That suits me, I may get one of these since it will be a good option from the full load Blackhawk and the buttstock pouch. I prefer OD in my part of the world. I just hope I've been civil in this post. Oh, my wife just said I don't need another mag pouch...

[Searcher4851]

Thanks for the post, sturm. Looks like it could be a handy little piece of equipment. Always nice to know what's available out there, whether I need one or not.

[Husker_Fan]

Good video and post Sturm. If you have any, would you check to see how 30 round M1 Carbine mags fit? Would two fit per pouch?

[Dr.Rob]

For anyone that's curious I picked up the Midway pouch and gave it a quick review here:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=659538

[SwissArmyDad]

For anyone that's curious I picked up the Midway pouch and gave it a quick review here:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=659538


Dr. Rob,
That looks very nice, and the price is certainly right. Thanks for posting the link.

Lets say, though, that I keep my mags in a pouch like this hanging next to my AR. (as of now my mags are in a drawer, and I've been looking for another option)

If I had something to respond to, I think a pouch like the OP or you posted would be great, but in the event that I want to be silent, I'm good until I try to take a mag out then, "riiiiiip" goes the velcro, and I've lost the element of surprise, or at the very least revealed my position.

This is NOT a big deal if the firing has already started, but even if I'm say, hunting coyotes, and I want to switch mags for some reason, I'm stuck with making a huge racket to do so.

In this regard, I see the OP's product being a far better design.

I'm definitely not opposed to doing a bit of sewing with my wife's assistance (she's an amazing seamstress) so maybe I could adapt a lower cost pouch to have something other than velcro closure, but honestly I think I'd likely be at the same price point after buying materials, etc.

Just a thought...


Cheers!