Newbie to Concealed Carry


April 9, 2012, 02:29 PM
Hello All,

I am pretty new here from Colorado. Been shooting for years but recently got my CCW permit.

I wanted to get everyone impression about how they felt carrying for the first time.

I haven't carried yet, I am still looking for the right holster, that being said, how did carrying make you feel, were you nervous, did you make any mistakes I can try to avoid myself?

I am a fairly "skinny guy" and am having a hard time with inside the waist band, any other suggestions?


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Jorg Nysgerrig
April 9, 2012, 02:37 PM
Number one thing to avoid:
Constantly adjusting the damn gun, holster, and cover garment while you're out and about.

April 9, 2012, 03:18 PM
Tell us what gun you are carrying and what IWB holsters you have tried. Being skinny doesn't rule out IWB carry. You should buy pants and belts a little bigger than normal if you carry IWB. Wear loose shirts either dark in color or with a print to help break up the outline of the gun. Make sure the shirt is long enough so that if you have to bend over to tie your shoe the gun isn't exposed.

April 9, 2012, 03:28 PM
With the right sized gun (for me it's a glock 19) the Crossbreed Super-Tuck, Horsehide is just great. Great retention, very very comfortable very flat against the body. With a decent square-tailed shirt or a sport coat the thing dissapears. The problem with IWB is the whole shirt untucked look which is totally not me...but it works very well. I have a Carhartt square-tailed work shirt in XLT (I am 6'7") and the gun dissapears under there.

The most disconcerting thing about starting to CC a Glock is holstering the thing. One needs to be carefull not to have the shirt-tail anywhere near the trigger guard when you click it down into the kydex. For models with a safety this will be more comfortable. I am careful and I sort of stick my hip out funny-like so if the darn thing does go off, at least it won't shoot my butt off or hit me in the calf or heel even if it blows a hole in my pants from the inside out :eek: I have been doing this everyday for a year now and my butt and my pants are still in one piece.

Ditto the comment about getting it holstered and leave it alone. I go to gun shows, gun shops, and down at the range and I just leave it concealed. Get a good stiff belt so that you can rely on more than tightness to hold the thing in place. When I stand up, I just straighten out the shirt tail on both sides like just about anybody would. Try not to do like you see the cops doing when then get up, grabbing the gun and getting it situated on the hip. They are carrying a lot more gear and their gun is open so it doesn't matter. You need to find a way that it will ride there all day or at least with a very minimum amount of hiking up the pants etc.

April 9, 2012, 03:30 PM
i do a little gun [380] in the front pocket, you forget that's it's even there.....gary

April 9, 2012, 03:43 PM
I am carrying a CZ 2075 Rami, The holster I have is the
for the Glock 26.

It seems when I use the inside the waist band it causes my pants to fit really wierd.

Thanks for your input!

Were there any consequence when you were first carrying.


April 9, 2012, 03:57 PM
I can't speak for the gun and holster that you will be carrying, but when I started carrying, I was carrying a Ruger P95 (big) in a Crossbreed Supertuck. I am a skinny guy and was able to conceal just fine. I have a Supertuck for my M&P9C that conceals perfectly, while the same gun in a Galco Summer Comfort, while a very comfortable and secure holster. Doesn't conceal as well as I'd like once the weather gets warmer and cover garments come off.

Go ahead and try different holsters and see what works for you.

April 9, 2012, 04:06 PM
I remember when I first got mine. I had the feeling that I was doing something wrong at first. I felt like everyone could tell it was there and that the cops were going to come and tackle me. It took about a month before I realized that no one could tell it was there. My own friends who knew I had a concealed firearm couldn't tell if I had it or not.

Things to avoid...touching it. Wear it around the house to find the most comfortable position. Once you do that, go out with it and leave it be. Practice drawing from a completely concealed spot. You should know where it is as a second nature.

April 9, 2012, 04:10 PM
Were there any consequence when you were first carrying.

When you go to a restaurant, if you sit in a booth, sit down slowly. The butt of your gun smacking the wooden booth back is fairly loud and causes people to look. Of course, 99.9% of people wont expect that it was a gun, rather that you sat down and may have hurt yourself.

April 9, 2012, 04:12 PM
Holster is key. Try some on if possible.

Another thing is fairly obvious. Considering you said you were small framed, I wouldn't try to carry a a full size glock, 1911 etc when wearing shorts and an A-shirt. It may be possible with the perfect holster and carrying position, but I find it hard to conceal a full size except in winter months. I change firearms according to dress.

Lately because of warm weather I have been using a Galco IWB at a "5:00" position with a G26. My other option is a J frame in the same type of IWB but at 1:00. You have to try different things to see what fits.

Pietro Beretta
April 9, 2012, 04:19 PM
I think the hardest part about carrying a firearm for the first time is:

1) Figuring out where to carry that best suits your body shape/build

2) Getting comfortable carrying a round in the chamber with no safety.

3) Knowing how to move with a firearm on your person.

4) NOT telling all your friends/family that you carry. I personally don't think any one needs to know but yourself.

5) Knowing how to tell if your gun is going to expose itself without using your hands to feel/touch. You don't need to feel/touch your weapon every minute.

There are a lot of people who get new garments for their "carry system." I did not, I figured out what would work with what I had. I was not going to go out and buy a new wardrobe to carry my daily carry weapon. While some people have the extra money to buy 7 pairs of new jeans/pants, with a mix of shorts -- good for them I didn't. Also, some people like to buy 5 or more pairs of 5.11 brand tactical pants, at a rate of 70+/- dollars per pair, that is just too expensive. ( I did buy a holster & gun belt for my system )

I am a short fatty, at 5'7" 170 lbs, I wear fitted clothing. Everyone can see I have a gut, I look better with fitted cloths -- I wear Large American Apparel T's, they are a skinnier cut T and to be honest aren't very long. My usual daily wear are: Jeans with T or Shorts with T. I do have blazers/sport coats with dress slacks, I usually go to my LCP for this setup.

I carry a SR9C in the 5:00 - 6:00 position, using a Crossbreed Supertuck Holster with Crossbreed belt. My wife says when I move around a lot she can see that there is something there but if she had no idea I carried she wouldn't know what it was.

I often do NOT wear any type of jacket, just jeans/shorts and a T.

There are some situations that I have to be careful, if for some reason I need to bend over to get something off a low shelf in a grocery store, I don't bend over -- 99% of the time the firearm will not be exposed, but it will print. There are some states out there that printing is a big NO-NO. So I have learned to drop to one knee to get something from a low shelf.

Also, if I am going to sit down to have lunch at a restaurant, or sit down in general, I grab the sides of my pants, and make sure they are a little higher than they should be, then I pull down my shirt as well; so when I go to sit down, the firearm doesn't have a chance to expose it self. When I go to sit up I do the same thing in reverse, make sure my shirt is down then when I stand up and make sure my pants are high up -- a few steps later my pants re position themselves to a perfect height again.

There are a lot of people who seem to spend every moment of their life trying to tell if someone is carrying, most of these people are other CCW permit/license holders and feel that if they can spot someone they believe to have a weapon, every bad guy can as well. They are the ones that ridicule those of us that do carry for not being tactical enough. Now I am not saying all of them are mall ninjas, but some hold that mightier than thou sentiment.

Also, making sure you know how to draw your firearm well: clearing the holster, pointing your gun forward to the target, coming up with your pistol to align the sites, pressing the trigger, ready position, scanning for targets, aim, press, then re holstering your pistol in the same manner that you draw is a big thing. You need to practice your draw, also re holstering your weapon is just as important as drawing your weapon. A lot of people get sloppy when they re-holster-- this is not a good habit to get into, you want to re-holster in the exact reverse of the way you draw

If you don't already have a good gun belt I would suggest getting one, I thought I had a good thick leather belt, then when I received my gun belt... lets just say its a world of difference.

You will figure out what works best for you, you just have to try things, everything.

April 9, 2012, 04:31 PM
Skinny guy, huh? I have no rear end to speak of so we may have similar problems.

Here's the number one thing I have discovered for ccw: What works for one person will be awful for the next person because we're all different and "comfort" is subjective.

Number two: A cheap belt makes the world's greatest holster appear to be junk.

What works best for me is a wilderness style web belt with any of my favorite carry holsters...a raven phantom knock off, a crossbreed knock off and a very simple kydex holster that is meant for appendix carry. I have some really, really nice custom leather gunbelts and a kydex reinforced instructor belt...all of which rarely leave the closet as I prefer my non-reinforced wilderness style belt. I can run an entire IDPA match and never once tug at my belt. I've even seen guys recommending me certain leather belts when they notice my cheapo 5.11...but then they walk off tugging their pants up. :) So if you find a combo that works and you're happy, just run with it.

April 9, 2012, 04:41 PM
I haven't been carrying that long, I got my permit last summer and got my first carry gun for Christmas. I can't say I really felt anxious but it did make me more alert. It also changed the way that I interact with people, not that I was hot headed before but I naturally have a pretty dry, sarcastic sense of humor and I'm not shy about speaking my mind. Now I'm nicer to people, I smile more, and I make a greater effort to make people feel at ease.

April 9, 2012, 05:18 PM
Hi, Jason. I see you're not so new to the forum, but haven't posted much. Anyway, welcome to the discussion.

You've gotten some pretty good advice already, especially regarding the need for a good belt and holster, so I'll not spend many words on that. I think you can make IWB work for you with the right equipment and a little practice.

The thing that prompted me to post here though is the couple of recommendations to practice your draw stroke from concealment. While that's good advice, it should be accompanied by a warning to do this with an UNLOADED gun for a while. Double check it. Then check it again. Once you've acquired some skill at drawing smoothly, and if your range allows it, you may want to practice drawing and firing. But unless you intend to fire, always always always practice drawing with a doubly checked UNLOADED weapon.

One more thing I will add to another recommendation someone already gave: Wear your belt, holster and gun around the house for a day or two so you can make adjustments before "going live." You might do this with the gun unloaded for a day, then loaded for a day. Whatever seems reasonable to you, just be safe.

Nobody knows you're carrying. Don't think too much about it and pretty soon it will seem as normal as tying your shoes.

April 9, 2012, 05:43 PM
Some things I learned in the first few years of CCW.

1. When picking a carry location and holster, don't sacrifice comfort and accessibility for absolute concealment. People are generally oblivious and will not notice your gun even if it is poorly concealed. I found this first hand when I open carried for a few summers. I still use the first holster I bought (galco skyops) because it is useful when concealing in tighter fitting dress clothes, but I usually use a Crossbreed because it is by far the most comfortable holster I have tried, even if it does print the butt of my 1911 a little bit.

2. Buy your pants a size larger, or at the very least make sure you have your gun and holster with you when trying on pants.

3. Don't skimp on the belt. A good stiff belt that correctly fits your holster is just as important as the holster itself. Don't be surprised to pay $60 or more for a good gunbelt.

4. The gun in your pocket is worth more that the gun on your nightstand. When I first started carrying, it was a Commander sized 1911 or a subcompact XD40 IWB. If I couldn't conceal either of those I didn't carry. Especially during the hot summers I found myself sans gun many times. Picked up a Kel-tec p3at and have rarely been unarmed since. Yes it is a dinky cartridge and yes it is a belly gun at best, but its better than nothing. It is tempting to go for as big of a gun in as big of a cartridge that you think you can conceal, but it will get heavy and cumbersome quickly. With all of the new very small easy to conceal pocket pistols in .380, 9mm, and even .40 there are many more practical options available.

April 9, 2012, 06:24 PM
First thing to avoid, as has been said, is constant adjusting or readjusting of holster(s) and or clothing. Buy a well made custom holster and belt, and all the difference in the world will be felt right away. Second, for me, due to a boo-boo on my part is, make sure your pistol is covered by your clothing. I have up close and personal experience with this and it's not a very good feeling. I forgot to cover up after getting out of the truck one day when going in to a field office and got quite a few very uncomfortable stares in my direction.

The holsters I currently use for my CZ 83 is a dual purpose IWB/OWB made by HBE with reinforcement at the mouth for one handed slide manipulation and the holster I use for my Ruger SR9 is also custom made from Jeffrey Custom Leather. It too also has major mouth opening reinforcement for one handed slide manipulation. I'll include links to both below and both of these guys are Great to work with.

Wearing loose fitting, busy print, untucked shirts work the best for me so far. Or heavy, almost canvas like work shirts work well also. I'm also a tall skinny guy, so finding just the right clothing can be difficult at times. Particularly when having to dress for meetings and still wanting access to my weapon.

But, about the biggest thing I've noticed about concealed carry is that unless something is blatantly out of place, most people will never notice anything at all.

April 9, 2012, 08:23 PM
You skinny guys don't know how good you have it. My fat rolls push the butt of any pistol out, making everything twice as difficult to conceal. Of course the very simple option (and least expensive option would be to lose weight, but you know how that goes.

And ditto to pretty much what everyone else has said: find the right holster, a GOOD BELT is key, wear it around the house for a bit. If you can, find some locals with the same carry guns. A buddy and I have been swapping holsters back and forth for our Glock 19's.

But to answer your original question, I became more aware than I was before. Every situation that you're in will now involve a gun - yours. No more honking at someone who cuts you off, etc.

April 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
Let me also add that a belt need not be stiff to work. Wilderness style belts are flimsy by nature and work great. The paramedics' and first responders' batman-like tdu utility belts have held up their pants for years despite having more weight and being super flimsy. :) I run a non reinforced version even when shooting competitions (glock 34 + a few spare mags) and it works fine without being super-tight and I never have to pull at my pants or belt. I have an instructor belt (wilderness style with kydex reinforcement sewn in) and I honestly never carry enough gear to need it,

April 9, 2012, 10:53 PM
Lots of good advice already!

I am relatively new to concealed carry as well, and am also pretty skinny. You didn't mention the gun(s) you are considering for carry, but I'd recommend something SLIM and also with a short grip. The grip is often underestimated as a factor, but I noticed that it tends to stick out the back if I bend forward.

Also, everyone will have an opinion on this, but the way I started was go with the tiniest gun possible first, to get in the habit of carrying everyday, and work my way back up. So I started with an LCP, that I could comfortably carry anytime, anywhere. And at first I was STILL nervous that people would see it! :) Then I realized, most people are oblivious, and in the colder months I knew I could carry more, so recently added a Kahr CW9 to the collection. If you are limited to one gun, it may as well be something you can take anywhere, no matter what. I even take my LCP jogging, I was nervous at first that it would jostle loose with all that bouncing around, but it never does!

I also agree with the other first it is a bit nerve-racking to carry a pistol with one in the pipe, but eventually you just get used to it. I trust that if I do my part, the gun will not go off on its own. Minimizing "administrative handling" helps. I carefully put the pistol in the holster and leave it there.

April 10, 2012, 09:15 AM
Thanks to everyone who has commented. I have learned a lot already.

I will keep looking for a good holster and belt.

I will also carry around the house before going live. I will have to get used to wearing my shirt untucked, not really my style either, but maybe I'll just have to start wearing a sports coat or blazer more often.


April 10, 2012, 10:35 AM
I will have to get used to wearing my shirt untucked, not really my style either, but maybe I'll just have to start wearing a sports coat or blazer more often.

Mostly I carry untucked, but am glad for the ability to tuck the shirt when appropriate. There are some very good tuckable holsters out there:

There are others too, but I would start with one of these.

I have a Milt Sparks Versa Max 2 with kydex clips for tuckability. It's terrific, but the long wait is disappointing. I've handled the N82 Tactical's at a gun show, and they seem well worth the cost. Never tried a Cross Breed holster, but I don't think I've ever heard a negative review.

April 10, 2012, 02:47 PM
Are there some guidelines for "sizing" a proper gun belt?

April 10, 2012, 03:16 PM
I have two belts from . Worth every penny. There is an excellent FAQ section that discusses belt sizing in detail.

Milt Sparks makes belts too and gives slightly different instructions on sizing their belts. I don't have one of theirs, so I can't speak to their quality or value.

April 10, 2012, 03:20 PM
As to sizing the gun belt. Crossbreed has instructions on how to measure your waist and what sized belt to order from them based on that. I love my Crossbreed belt and holster. I've worn this belt every day for 2.5 years now and still looks great and is as sturdy as it was on day 1.

April 10, 2012, 03:54 PM
Good advice already - but I haven't seen mention of my favorite carry method:

A Mika Pocket Holster. A small firearm will disappear in your front pocket with one of these. Because it is completely secure and concealed, you will not feel compelled to adjust it as you might with a belt holster. If necessary, you can have your hand in your pocket wrapped around the stocks and ready to draw quickly without anyone knowing you have a firearm in your hand.

The mistakes I made that you should try to avoid:

Don't feel compelled to discuss your new habit with friends and family. The ones who carry won't care, and the hoplophobe/pacifists will try to convince you that "violence is NEVER the answer" and that you are more of a danger to yourself and to them than to criminals.

I have always been one to enjoy a good philosophical/legal argument, so I was eager to convince the latter types of their error. Fuggedaboudit! Reason and evidence means nothing to them, so you and they are likely to become frustrated and angry for naught.

My wife was one of them - and so THAT confrontation was unavoidable. Fortunately (although it took a few years) she has come around to see the wisdom of my choice to be armed at all times.

And I'll repeat that a really good, stiff belt designed to carry extra weight is NOT optional - even if you pocket carry.

April 10, 2012, 09:16 PM
You will get used to the fit and feel of a handgun on your person. I suggest you take some professional classes, I also suggest you begin with Mas Ayoob's MAG 40. Read his books on concealed carry.

April 10, 2012, 10:16 PM
First time I carried in public I thought everybody would notice, and I was a little nervous. The feeling passed pretty quick.

BTW....being skinny makes carrying easier. Take it from somebody who is.....somewhat fluffier than normal.

April 11, 2012, 12:33 AM
I just purchased a belt from:

Should be here in a few days.

I am still looking for a holster, the RAMI is about the same size as the Glock 26. I did see the N82 made one for that model. I may have to try them out. I have also been semi successful in making them from Kydex, so I am giving that a try as well.

Thanks again for all of your advice

There is a lot of great insight here.

April 11, 2012, 03:10 AM
if you want to see a neat holster go to:

there are a number of videos to watch, but look at the 3rd in the list by Tim Schmidt, USCCA. i think he's got a neat point to make. looks like you can carry a fairly good-sized weapon and the mag pocket is slick. think i'm gonna get as soon as i can afford it. reasonably priced too!

April 11, 2012, 08:49 AM
I have a SmartCarry holster, worn it two or three times. I may use it again here and there as the need arises but, for me anyway, it's not an every day holster.

I have spoken with the guy who owns the business though. Charlie. Really friendly, retired Marine (like me). :)

April 11, 2012, 09:37 AM
if you want to see a neat holster go to:

there are a number of videos to watch, but look at the 3rd in the list by Tim Schmidt, USCCA. i think he's got a neat point to make. looks like you can carry a fairly good-sized weapon and the mag pocket is slick. think i'm gonna get as soon as i can afford it. reasonably priced too!
That holster looks great except for a couple of things: 1)it would be impossible to walk up to a urinal and use it without some serious adjustments and exposure to the concealed part of the concealed carry and 2) I don't believe that carrying a large pistol that way would be comfortable sitting for any period of time. I'd rather drop a full-size 1911 in my pocket.

April 11, 2012, 10:33 AM
I did not read all the post so forgive me if I repeat someone else. I went through several phases when I decided to carry. I finally decided on a manly leather purse with a long strap that basically looks like I am carrying a camera. Have been asked more than once what type of camera I have but I just say I carry some extra personal belongings.

In the car the purse rides next to me and is unzipped; the purse has 5 mags loaded and a copy of my CHL with contact info. The only decision I have to make about carrying is do I go zipped or unzipped into a location.

I have played out in my mind all kinds of threats and I do realize not all threat bases with this option are covered but for me at this stage it is less of a hassle carry option for me.

Lou McGopher
April 11, 2012, 10:35 AM
I was nervous at first that someone would see it and wig-out. Didn't want the hassle of dealing with panicky ninnies. I carried IWB.
I quickly learned no one is paying attention. I started open carrying most of the time. Still very few people paying attention. If anyone has been alarmed by it, they've kept it to themselves.
Now I carry OWB in a Serpa. It's much more comfortable, much easier to access should I need to, and using the paddle, easy to remove and replace the holster with the gun in it should I need to go into a place that restricts firearms. I no longer worry or care if someone will see it. If my shirt or jacket hangs over it, fine. If it rides up over it, oh well. (I recognize open carry is not legal in all parts of CO, and I don't know if there's a penalty for accidental exposure.)

Get a dependable holster, and get a sturdy, stiff belt.

April 11, 2012, 08:35 PM
I decided to carry. I finally decided on a manly leather purse with a long strap

Sky: I would be concerned about a purse-snatcher, or setting it down and forgetting it. Do you wear the strap across your body?

April 11, 2012, 09:35 PM
Sky: I would be concerned about a purse-snatcher, or setting it down and forgetting it. Do you wear the strap across your body?

Yes I wear the case on my right side and the wide leather strap rest on my left shoulder. I was initially worried about the snatcher thing but figure they will probably have to take my head off to get this case; it is very sturdy and was purchased overseas. The case is actually very secure yet can be shot through if needed. Is it a perfect option for all occasions,,,,,,,most assuredly not, but like I said it works for me with the least amount of hassle and discomfort. Going to the restroom, eating, shopping and bending over or 'whatever' it just works for me and is now just about second nature as far as such things can be.

As far as leaving it someplace.....I have not had that pleasure 'yet' but, as I said the bag contains all the contact info and copy of license; my wife is always watching me so she is my fall back......I am retired so where ever I am she is too and to be honest, I like it that way.... I do remove the case when eating (sometimes) and it rest next to me unzipped about half the time depending on where I am in the eatery. The strap allows the case to ride from my 6 to any position upfront so sometimes it just lays in my lap over the napkin.

I feel I am quicker getting my hand (s) on the weapon than if I carried in a holster under my shirt.....Just a personal option that works for me. If some bad guy wanted to take my life along with the wallet I just reach in the case as if retrieving money an do whatever I have to do for the A team to protect me and mine. If I ever had to shoot they would never see the gun unless I wanted them to with some type of display.

April 11, 2012, 09:48 PM
Because I can't carry at work, my pistol stays in the car most of the day. I put my holster on when leaving work in the afternoon, unless I'm going straight home. To move my pistol from the house to the car or vice versa, I use this laptop case designed for concealed carry:

I have also carried like this once or twice when a holster on-body was not practical, but doing so as a primary carry method seems unworkable for me. Still, the bag linked above is useful in its own right, even without the concealed carry feature.

April 11, 2012, 10:25 PM
I've been carrying since the late '80s, and for me it's been a journey. I started (nervously :o ) with a Combat Commander IWB, and over the years have experimented with waist packs, shoulder holsters and ankle holsters using a variety of guns, of course.
What I finally settled on is a J-frame/ holster in my front trouser pocket, and a speed strip reload in the opposite pocket. Down here in Alabama, summers are hot and winters are mild, so cover garments can be problematic. For real cold weather, I have a heavy leather coat with pass-through slits to reach my trouser pockets. Another advantage of pocket carry is that I can slip my hand into the pocket and grasp the gun if necessary, and be prepared to draw without appearing threatening.

April 12, 2012, 05:33 AM
aeriedad quoted
[quote] I have a SmartCarry holster, worn it two or three times. I may use it again here and there as the need arises but, for me anyway, it's not an every day holster.

I have spoken with the guy who owns the business though. Charlie. Really friendly, retired Marine (like me).

why did you quit weating smartcarry, aeriedad? looks like i could carry my xd 40, 4" bbl in that thing with a little baggy on the pants, which is the case in any event. i might buy it, try it, and i can always sell on craigslist or armslist if need be, eh? whaddaya think, man?

April 12, 2012, 08:06 AM
At first I felt like everyone was looking at me or could see my weapon though that was completely impossible. I was also really nervous around cops, and I had never been previously.

After 21 years of daily concealed carry I can honestly say that nobody is ever going to notice your hardware unless you uncover it completely and even if they do they aren't going to say or do anything about it. That said, if you do accidentally uncover it and somebody notices just nod your head at them and go back to whatever you were doing. They'll probably assume you're a cop.

You've already ordered a good gun belt and that is a great first step. I've carried just about every way there is over the years. What I'll say about what works best is that IWB in the 3:00-5:00 range is the most popular by a gigantic margin for a really good reason: For the vast majority of people it works the best. I carry an XD45C in a Comp-Tac MTAC fully adjustable hybrid holster. I've owned lots of holsters and tried on dozens more and this is hands-down the best way to carry IWB in my opinion. There are highly touted cheaper versions of this holster all over the place but the quality of this piece really is second to none.

Something that any future CCWer should consider and practice depending on their method of carry is what to do in public restrooms. Whatever you decide to do you should practice at home before carrying in public. You can find much advice, including mine, on this subject in several threads on this forum.

The suggestion to sit down slowly so your weapon doesn't bonk whatever you're sitting on was a good one. I do that but didn't even realize it much less think of suggesting it.

I also pull the bottom of my shirt down with both hands as I'm standing up. It looks totally natural as people do it all the time.

When you sit in a restaurant booth try to not sit on the outside with your weapon toward the outside. When sitting some weapons carried IWB print horribly when viewed from the side. If you pucker your shirt just right as you sit it will be invisible from any angle but it's tricky to do.

You should definitely be as non-confrontational when carrying as you can stand to be. Remember that any fight you get into is, by definition, a gun fight since you brought the gun. There is potential for you or another party to use it whether that happens or not. Someday, somewhere you're going to need to back down from an argument where you are clearly right and the other guy is trying to pick a fight. Be prepared for this and remember that any day that ends with you and everybody around you still breathing is a good one.

If you are forced to use your weapon in self defense do not under any circumstances freak out and run away afterwards. Call 911 as soon as it is safe to do so.

April 12, 2012, 08:33 AM
why did you quit weating smartcarry, aeriedad? looks like i could carry my xd 40, 4" bbl in that thing with a little baggy on the pants, which is the case in any event. i might buy it, try it, and i can always sell on craigslist or armslist if need be, eh? whaddaya think, man?

I don't think I have quit wearing the SmartCarry, it's just that I never considered it an every day holster in the first place. If you're wearing a belt, particularly a good gun belt, drawing and re-holstering with a SmartCarry is difficult. It's much easier if you're just wearing sweatpants or gym shorts. It's not at all easy to draw while seated, not matter what you're wearing. I don't wear sweatpants or gym shorts too often, so a belt and Milt Sparks Versa Max 2 holster works much better for me.

When sitting, particularly in blue jeans or normal-fitting pants/shorts, SmartCarry can be a little uncomfortable. Gym shorts or sweatpants will work better.

These are my experiences carrying a Kimber 1911 w/4" bbl. I'm not getting rid of the SmartCarry because I'll probably use it again, though it will never be my every day holster.

April 12, 2012, 08:45 AM
I also carry a Rami 2075. I have a crossbreed easy tuck for it, but it moves around on me a lot. I just ordered a Super tuck in order to have two clips to hold it in place. I also have a Para P-12 and a SW CS40 that I have IWB holsters made by Tommy Theis that I LOVE, but he doesn't offer one for the Rami yet.

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