If you could have only one .38 / 357...


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dom1104
April 9, 2012, 04:34 PM
Which would it be? Looking for a grail gun, in the .38 special / .357 magnum catagory.

Is everyones gun, the Python?

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rcmodel
April 9, 2012, 04:50 PM
S&W Model 19 or 66.

Pythons are bigger then I prefer to carry all day and don't fit my hand as well as S&W.

rc

wanderinwalker
April 9, 2012, 04:58 PM
Another S&W 66/19 vote. My 4" M-19 is the biggest pistol I'd want to pack 24/7 and about the smallest .357 I care to shoot with .357s.

Runner up is the S&W 586/686, but it's quite a bit heavier. A Python is definitely out.

357 Terms
April 9, 2012, 05:05 PM
Korth.

I would sell it and buy one example of all the rest.

dscampbell
April 9, 2012, 05:12 PM
A SW M&P manufactured in 1951 (my birth year) is my holy grail gun. But if I I am limited to a gun for all situations it would have to be a toss up between my ruger SS SECURITY SIX .357 with the 2.75" barrel or my Colt Lawman MK III .357 2".

critter
April 9, 2012, 05:20 PM
Don't overlook the GP 100.
Built like a tank.

T Bran
April 9, 2012, 05:26 PM
Model 66

BemidjiDweller
April 9, 2012, 05:29 PM
I second a GP100, that or a Security Six.

mbopp
April 9, 2012, 05:29 PM
Got it - S&W 4" 19-3. Bought it new.

CSA 357
April 9, 2012, 05:35 PM
:neener:19,66,27,28,686 o you said one?

19-3Ben
April 9, 2012, 05:42 PM
Is everyones gun, the Python?

I'm going to guess very few people will pick a Python. It would be a luxury gun I'd like to have, but if I needed one and only one .357 sixgun that has to last me, it's gonna be a Ruger six series revolver. Probably a 2.75" stainless Speed Six.
Although I could very easily be talked into a 3" SP101 as an alternative.

Edit to add: It's interesting, I wrote my response before looking at the other replies. So far, in 10 replies, NOBODY has picked the Python.

SharpsDressedMan
April 9, 2012, 05:50 PM
Ruger Security Six. It is currently my only .38/.357 revolver. Accurate as hell, and it seems to be indestructible.

Old John
April 9, 2012, 05:50 PM
Hard choice, for me..........It'd be either a 3" Ruger SP101, or a 3" Ruger GP100.
Both are really handy guns to carry. Actually the SP101 carries a bit easier, for every day use. I carried one for 8+ years.

BCRider
April 9, 2012, 06:01 PM
My present Model 19 is a slice of classically blued firearm candy which shoots every bit as good as it looks. It will be the last or second last handgun I ever part with when I'm too old and decrepit to shoot any longer. And at that point I'll lovingly pass it on to a new shooter to carry on the legacy.

BBQLS1
April 9, 2012, 06:17 PM
Hard to say. Right now I'm itching for one of the 3.5" barreled M27s. I probably carry a snub more than anything though.

Micha2u
April 9, 2012, 06:46 PM
Ditto on the Rugers...either the GP100 or Security Six. Rugged and accurate.

Missionary
April 9, 2012, 06:49 PM
Greetings
Mine will stay the Dan Wesson 15-2 with barrel options between 2 inch and 10 inch. I can CC with the 2inch, go plinking or whatever with the 4 and 6 inch and hunt large critters with the 8 or 10 inchers. One gun lots of possibilities. Plus the DW is possibly the strongest factory made and most accurate production 357 double action revolver about. Just check the Silly Wet records.
Mike in Peru

Gary A
April 9, 2012, 07:05 PM
Mine is a fixed-sight, stainless, four inch, 1/2 lug GP100. Already have a copy or two of it.

WoodchuckAssassin
April 9, 2012, 07:10 PM
My would be the one...the only...S&W 686. I recently inherited my dad's 686 no-dash, and I can't imagine a better wheelgun. I noticed a few Python lovers, and while I've never fired or own one, I've got to imagine that the 686 delivers the same quality, strength, and accuracy (if not better) than the $1200-$2000 priced Python.

If I were to have only one .38 (that is to say, not capable of fireing 357's), it would be my Colt Official Police. A little heavy on the trigger when compared to the 686, but boy oh boy is it fun to shoot!

R.W.Dale
April 9, 2012, 07:27 PM
It would be my S&W 60-18

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/krochus/2012-04-08161420.jpg

I bought it simply because when I picked it up my hand and it made sweet sweet love ;) only afterwards did I learn how exceedingly rare and in demand these are.

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MrDig
April 9, 2012, 07:28 PM
Yup, I own two Taurus, one Ruger GP 100, and One S&W Model 10. I would pick a Ruger, or a S&W any day of the week over a Taurus because I now know the difference in the Triggers Between the Three.

2zulu1
April 9, 2012, 07:36 PM
Lots of good choices to choose from. One, if not the best 357 mag I've had the pleasure to shoot and own is the scandium alloy N-frame M327 TRR8, balances nicely and it has a nice, DA trigger that is conducive for fast follow-up shots.

Designed for lead penetraters on door entry teams it is capable of attaching bottom/top rails for lights and red dot holographic sights. At 35ozs, it makes for a nice carry in regular form. :)

CDR_Glock
April 9, 2012, 07:40 PM
I have 3 357 revolvers:

1968 Colt Python 4"
Ruger GP100 6"
Smith and Wesson Model 627 4"

I have 1 snubby:
Taurus 605

I 38 snubby:

RUGER LCR 38

I'd have to say the Colt Python is my favorite. No other gun has the same feel and action. It's innately accurate and smooth as silk.


Lifetime NRA Member
US Navy Veteran, CDR

76shuvlinoff
April 9, 2012, 07:45 PM
I have not handled all of them but I feel whatever I picked for "the only" would have a minimum 4" barrel.

RichS194
April 9, 2012, 07:51 PM
I too would choose a model 19.

Prof
April 9, 2012, 08:04 PM
4" s&w m19

bannockburn
April 9, 2012, 08:15 PM
My 4" S&W Model 686-no dash.

420Stainless
April 9, 2012, 08:15 PM
If only one, it would be the Detective Special since I shoot it well and don't mind carrying it. I love the .357 Magnum, but prefer carrying semiauto type handguns for more powerful output than the .38 Special.

skt239
April 9, 2012, 08:33 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/42575401-71a5-34f3.jpg

It's not very practical but it would have to be my New Vaquero. I can't think of any .357 (I've owned a few) that I like shooting more than the Ruger.

valnar
April 9, 2012, 08:35 PM
Marlin 1894c




Sorry, is that cheating?

56hawk
April 9, 2012, 09:17 PM
You can't have just one 357. As far as favorite to take to the range and practical use it would have to be the M&P 360. It's super accurate, small and light.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=162482&d=1334016754

7thGenAustinite
April 9, 2012, 09:38 PM
dan wesson…

SabbathWolf
April 9, 2012, 09:41 PM
If one...and "only" one...

Then I'd take the Ruger Blackhawk convertible.
It will shoot 357 mag, 38 spl "and" 9mm all out of one gun.
True it's a single-action six-shooter...but I already have high-cap auto pistols anyways.
But for a survival gun or whatnot, I want this one and am shopping for it right now actually.

VA27
April 9, 2012, 09:54 PM
Back when you could actually go into a gun shop and buy a factory fresh Python, I broke the firing pin on one dry firing it. That kinda put me off of Pythons.

The one 357 do-all for me is the new SP101 4". Long enough in the barrel for hunting (either as a stand alone or backup), while being just small enough for CC.

RalphS
April 9, 2012, 10:24 PM
GP-100 4 inch
or
686 4 inch

Why 4 inch? Because I get 1305 fps out of it with a 158 gr LSWC and slight less with a 185 gr Beartooth Bullet.

.45Guy
April 9, 2012, 10:32 PM
Only one? I suppose the 66.

sidheshooter
April 9, 2012, 10:40 PM
I have the one I'd keep: S&W model 65-3 RB 3".

kbbailey
April 9, 2012, 10:43 PM
I became a Python owner by an unlikely twist of fate. Of the 5 .357's that I own......

I'd have to say the Colt Python is my favorite. No other gun has the same feel and action. It's innately accurate and smooth as silk.


well said!

76shuvlinoff
April 9, 2012, 10:50 PM
Marlin 1894c




Sorry, is that cheating?


Man, I didn't think of that..... and the sad thing is I have one! Gotta give out an +100 even though this is the revolver page.

ArchAngelCD
April 10, 2012, 01:04 AM
Which would it be? Looking for a grail gun, in the .38 special / .357 magnum catagory.

Is everyones gun, the Python?
A S&W Registered Magnum or it's successor the Model 27...

IMO that was the peak of revolver manufacturing... (although the Python was extremely close)

asia331
April 10, 2012, 01:13 AM
When it comes to revolvers I got to admit partiality to a 4" GP100

glockman19
April 10, 2012, 01:15 AM
S&w 686+ 4"

TennJed
April 10, 2012, 03:30 AM
I don't have one, but if I only coould have one it would be a 4" Ruger Security Six

joneb
April 10, 2012, 03:51 AM
Well for me I would be happy with a S&W 13 with a 3" barrel or a S&W 27 with a 3.5" barrel or a S&W 686 with a 3" barrel, I don't know if S&W made a 3" 586 as that would be preferred. I guess I am just a dreamin :)

ColtPythonElite
April 10, 2012, 05:02 AM
Colt King Cobra in bright finish stainless.

evan price
April 10, 2012, 06:34 AM
Colt 4" King Cobra for me too.

Second would be a 66 no-dash.

oldfool
April 10, 2012, 08:40 AM
if you had said 357 ("only") grail gun, as in out-of-production collectible class
I suspect there would be a lot more votes for the Colt Python or a S&W model 27 or pre-27, or maybe a classic Dan Wesson

but for me, 6" barrel S&W 19/66 is '"it", in 38/357
Like a lot of folks, I don't run a high round count of 357s thru my pair of 66s
They do see a lot of 38 sp range fodder, and I think of them as pert near perfect 38+P revolvers
(perhaps like someone else above, I mostly reserve my 357 ammo supply for lever action carbines)

Taurus 617 CCW
April 10, 2012, 10:00 AM
I picked up a 4" barrel S&W model 66. It has excellent weight and balance. With a set of aftermarket grips, it fits like a glove.

mavracer
April 10, 2012, 10:22 AM
It depends if I get to have guns in other calibers if it's my one and only I'd want my 2 3/4" Speed Six although my 2 1/2" 19 or 2" SP101 would work too. If I get to have a dedicated 38 also I'd opt for my 686ssr, while I could make due with a Colt trooper/python or Ruger GP/security or any Smith K,L or N frame.

StrawHat
April 10, 2012, 11:42 AM
If I were to recommend a 38 Special it would either be a S&W M14 or the S&W M15. If I were to recommend a 357, I am not sure what I would say as I get all the fun I need from the 36 caliber bore with the 38 Special.

ApacheCoTodd
April 10, 2012, 12:14 PM
Right now, I'd give this one up last but if I ever replace my stolen stainless Dan Wesson .357 - even the "King" will be relegated to second place.

Salmoneye
April 10, 2012, 12:48 PM
Model #KGPF-340

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n431/ECVMatt/sp101b.jpg

easyg
April 10, 2012, 12:49 PM
Ruger GP100.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM7181.jpg

Doug S
April 10, 2012, 02:09 PM
Nothing special about it, but if I were to choose only one, it would be the Ruger SP101 with 3in barrel. Seems a good compromise to cover a variety of bases, and I like how well they are built.

The War Wagon
April 10, 2012, 02:12 PM
J-frame .357 You can shoot either round in it, it's concealable, and controllable. :cool:

I have 1911's for the BIG jobs. ;)

Jonah71
April 10, 2012, 04:48 PM
I want mine back! (along with the $$) Love the Browning HP but I'm sorry I made the trade. Would love to have the old Sec. Six back...I miss shooting it.

Ky Larry
April 10, 2012, 06:31 PM
I have a 6" Python, a SW 686, a S&W -19 4", a Colt Dick Spl, a S&W -28, and a Colt Police Positive made in 1932. If I could only have one for all uses, like the others above, I'd probably pick my -19.

Steve CT
April 10, 2012, 07:23 PM
Maybe this:

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w160/sdrct/DSCN0418-1-1-1.jpg

Dr.Rob
April 10, 2012, 07:52 PM
Only one? 4" Python wouldn't be a bad choice.

Don't have one in my stable at present. Passed on a 4" King Cobra I should have bought.

skidder
April 10, 2012, 08:11 PM
I really like my 4" Security Six

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc456/exlogger/SixGrips.jpg

Haywood
April 10, 2012, 08:18 PM
At one time I had a Dozen 357s. I have Six left. If I could only have One it would be a toss up between the LCR and SP101. Since I carry both daily I would have to keep the SP and give the LCR to my Wife. Dose that work?

bob kk
April 10, 2012, 08:19 PM
I have a S&W m19, m27 both with 4" barrels and a Python with 4'. Like the Python but for carry the m19 is my pick.

Iggy
April 10, 2012, 09:02 PM
3 1/2" Model 27
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/Santagrips.jpg
You can shoot heavy magnums all day. Accurate enough for reasonable handgun use
You can carry it concealed if needed.

Many old time LEO's swore by it.

ApacheCoTodd
April 10, 2012, 09:06 PM
3 1/2" Model 27
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/Santagrips.jpg
You can shoot heavy magnums all day. Accurate enough for reasonable handgun use
You can carry it concealed if needed.

Many old time LEO's swore by it.
Geeze Iggy - while I understand the choice from one point of view, from another, that could never be my only .357... Too damn beautiful for me to shoot.

larry237
April 10, 2012, 09:11 PM
Best compromise (all guns are a compromise) is the Model 19/66. Balance, range of ammo, accuracy. Ask an old revolver cop who carried one for years. Besides, they just feel good.

Doug Add
April 10, 2012, 09:35 PM
I would sure hate to part with either of my 4" S&Ws. The 686-4 has the best trigger of any handgun I have owned.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p48/DougAdd/686ahrends.jpg

The 586 is probably the most beautiful handgun I have ever owned, and the modified lug makes it less barrel heavy than the 686, so it balances better in my hand.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p48/DougAdd/586L.jpg

But if pressed to have only one, I would probably choose my 2.25" SP101 because it carries so much better than the L frame Smiths.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p48/DougAdd/4712carry.jpg

Honestly though, I'd probably settle for my father-in-law's blued 1976 4" Ruger Police Service Six as my "one" revolver.

cyclopsshooter
April 10, 2012, 09:54 PM
Yup, 65 3" RB- Rest of you are nutz :P

Iggy
April 10, 2012, 10:11 PM
ApacheCoTodd,

I got a couple more.:evil:
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/NiMDL27.jpg
I carry this one.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/PB060004.jpg?t=1289084959
I shoot this one.:)

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p246/Iggy25/Keith%20Holsters/P1010009-1.jpg?t=1304023194
The fancy one is for marryin's and buryin's.

exbrit49
April 10, 2012, 10:26 PM
Without a doubt my Model 19 !!!

wrs840
April 10, 2012, 10:33 PM
If you could have only one .38 / 357...

For me it would be a 3"bbl S&W M64 or M65 because I find them to be the most perfectly utilitarian revolvers I own.

Sealevel
April 10, 2012, 11:16 PM
For me that would be a Model 19 or 66 with 4" barrel.

FM12
April 10, 2012, 11:29 PM
Pre model 27, the original!

Shoot66
April 11, 2012, 08:36 AM
S&w m19

Stainz
April 11, 2012, 09:35 AM
No question... even if I am basically a .38-guy - my 2 5/8" PC627 UDR is a keeper:

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/033-2.jpg

It cost me a kilobuck two years ago - took the sale of some old friends to fund - but what a keeper! Second place goes to my 4" 627 Pro.

Stainz

Seven For Sure
April 11, 2012, 10:55 AM
It would be my S&W 60-18

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/krochus/2012-04-08161420.jpg

I bought it simply because when I picked it up my hand and it made sweet sweet love ;) only afterwards did I learn how exceedingly rare and in demand these are.

posted via mobile device.

I have the same gun. Had a beautiful Mernickle cross draw holster made for it. I did'nt realize they were so rare. I did find mine had a factory trigger job with one or two coils cut from the TS. I bought it new. Any idea how rare these are?

MCgunner
April 11, 2012, 12:11 PM
Yup, I own two Taurus, one Ruger GP 100, and One S&W Model 10. I would pick a Ruger, or a S&W any day of the week over a Taurus because I now know the difference in the Triggers Between the Three.

After buying my nickle Taurus 66, I sold my Security Six. I'll never sell my Smith and Wesson M10, though. The Taurus is WAY more accurate with .38 loads and just as accurate with .357 as was the Security Six, in fact, a tad more accurate (by a half inch) than the M10. The Taurus trigger was better out of the box than the Ruger, as good as the Smith, but I trimmed the hammer spring and slicked up the Security Six and it was pretty nice after i did that. But, for reasons of accurate and built quality, I prefer the Taurus....scoff if you must, but it's true. Now, it's not as rugged a gun as the Ruger, but the frame and round forcing cone are more rugged than my old M19 Smith. I just prefer it and that's why I kept it as a 4" .357 outdoor carry and the others are gone.

For CCW, I still prefer the SP101 to about anything in this caliber. That thing is a little tank, far stronger design than the Security Six, probably why Ruger dumped the Security Six. Now, I may, in the future, pick up a 4" adjustable sight version of the SP101 for outdoor carry, but the Taurus does a fine job. In stainless, and tough as it is, you won't need worry about the SP101 holding up in outdoor use, though. The trigger is less than great out of the box, but a Wolff spring helps and it is pretty smooth with a little use.

ms6852
April 11, 2012, 02:40 PM
I would choose these two.

http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv157/ms6852/357%20magnums/P1000474.jpg

skidder
April 11, 2012, 08:27 PM
I Put 100 rounds of 148 wadcutters through my Service Six this weekend. Rather surprised how well it performed. Tough choice between this and my Security Six (slight advantage to the Service Six with the wadcutters).


http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc456/exlogger/Service%20Six/ServiceSix12.jpg

792mauser
April 11, 2012, 08:52 PM
Would be a tough call. I like my revolvers. Strike that love those machines.
A(colt trooper .357 6")
B(colt trooper mk iii 4")
C(smith mod 65 4")
D(smith mod 13-3 4")
E(colt army special 4")
F(colt police pos spl 4")
G(smith mod 14-3 6")
H(colt detect spl 2")
I(smith mod 36 2")
J(rossi 38 3")
I love round wheelguns. If I had to pick it would be the 6" trooper.

glocking26
April 11, 2012, 08:52 PM
S&W 640-1 made just before they started sliding down hill.

wickedsharp
April 11, 2012, 08:58 PM
S&W Highway Patrolman - Model 28-2

montanaoffroader
April 11, 2012, 10:44 PM
Real world: Colt King Cobra 4" stainless, bought it back when they were reasonably priced, my all time favorite handgun.....

Fantasy Island/Big Lottery Win: Phillips & Rogers Medusa Model 47

jimniowa
April 12, 2012, 12:03 AM
I have a Colt Trooper MKlll 4 " in 38/357 I have carried on many hunting trips and it recoils with authority with 158g factory loads. My wife shoots a S&W 686 4" that handles that load with a lot less punishment. I admit there is over 30 years between the purchase of the guns.

RickMD
April 12, 2012, 12:13 AM
No question in my mind. A 4" electroless nickel Python from Colt's Custom Shop.

Gordon
April 12, 2012, 12:52 AM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/P1020214.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/P1020212.jpg

Owen Sparks
April 12, 2012, 01:15 AM
Another vote for the Security Six.

DC3-CVN-72
April 12, 2012, 02:01 AM
Only one ? I think I'll keep my S&W PERFORMANCE CENTER 627-3, no lock .357 MAG V-8 with the 5in. bbl. Ported, can use moon clips, 8 shots, better trigger than both of my Pythons, it shoots .38 S&W spl. like .22lr. It will go last ! :)

TennJed
April 12, 2012, 04:03 AM
Blackhawk 357/9mm w/6.5" barrell. I have other guns that could serve other functions. But if I could only have 1 357 it would need to be a range (read fun) gun.

No gun is more fun than the Blackhawk.

SabbathWolf
April 12, 2012, 06:35 AM
Blackhawk 357/9mm w/6.5" barrell. I have other guns that could serve other functions. But if I could only have 1 357 it would need to be a range (read fun) gun.

No gun is more fun than the Blackhawk.


LOL.....
I just mentioned in another thread that I just ordered the exact same revolver earlier tonight.
;)

frankmako
April 12, 2012, 07:49 AM
s&w model 19 four inch barrel.

57sw
April 12, 2012, 10:21 AM
I'll stay with my Dan Wesson 15-2. With all the different barrel lengths and grip choices, it's about all I need in a. 357.

spudwrench
April 12, 2012, 10:31 AM
I have a 76 model service six and a Colt Mark III Border Patrol. The Colt is heavier but the trigger is outstanding. It would be hard to choose only one but I guess that's a nice predicament to have.

brnmuenchow
April 12, 2012, 11:07 AM
Is everyones gun, the Python?
It really should be a house hold staple, everyone should have one. ;)

Brian Williams
April 12, 2012, 11:56 AM
I would take a S&W 581 and have the barrel cut down to 3" and slab sided with a gold bead front sight added, round butt the grip frame and moon clip it, with service grips and a Tyler T grip adapter.

PzGren
April 12, 2012, 12:26 PM
Korth.

I would sell it and buy one example of all the rest.

I am certain that you do not have a Korth. I do. I also have a Python since 30 years in the back of my safe, a good dozen of S&W revolvers and some Rugers.

The Korth has a trigger pull that just cannot be duplicated by a stock gun, unless they put the trigger on roller bearings.

Quality and quantity are not the question here but which one would be the only revolver. Make mine a Korth, next in line an MR73.

StrutStopper
April 12, 2012, 04:46 PM
When I bought my .357 my intention was to only have one. At least for quite a while. Its been probably better than 15 years and I still have it, a 4" GP100. Not currently looking for another so I guess thats my answer.

Blind Dog Jake
April 12, 2012, 06:09 PM
If I could only have one. This King Cobra has over 10,000 rounds sent down range. I trust it to do what I ask of it. It is the one.http://www.ohiogamefishing.com/photopost/watermark.php?file=59443

isaidme
April 12, 2012, 06:30 PM
The new S&W R8 has my vote! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0aEEdcHgD4
But love the Colt King Cobra's guys!

OrangePwrx9
April 12, 2012, 09:58 PM
4" Ruger Security Six

Set aside my Python when I got the Sec. Six and rarely shoot it anymore. Got a super nice 686 later on, but it doesn't see much use either. Thought a GP100 might be similar; it wasn't even close and is gone now.

The 3" SP101 does come close in some respects, but is small for my hands with sights that give me great difficulty. On those rare occasions when I can get a good sight picture, it will shoot as accurately as the Sec. Six.

The Sec. Six is always ready to go and almost always within reach.

Big_T
April 13, 2012, 12:27 AM
If you mean ANY, then a Korth Combat Magnum.
Till I win the lottery, I'm more than happy with my S&W R8.

wyatte
April 13, 2012, 12:38 AM
Most likely a 4" gp 100/S & W 686 type gun. wyatte

robctwo
April 13, 2012, 01:53 AM
4" 19-3

I shoot the 6" better, longer sight radius and partridge sight, but the 4" is handier and easier to carry. I love the 14 and 15 .38s, but if I only had one, I'd want the .357 option.

Bassleg
April 13, 2012, 02:06 AM
SS SECURITY SIX .357 4" wish I bought 2 of them.

Poohgyrr
April 13, 2012, 02:48 AM
The 3 1/2"er is classic, the J frame can be an always gun. Picking between them would depend on which day of the week it was:


http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/Poohgyrr/Guns/e7a36a5d.jpg

Needles
April 13, 2012, 03:55 AM
My stainless 4" GP100.

mharveyww1
April 13, 2012, 04:16 AM
I had the same experience you describe. Wasn't intending to buy the 5" bbl but when I picked it up it was like an extension of my hand! Love at first feel!

Obviously, others with different sized hands might prefer the 3"...and it conceals easier...but, even though I don't use it as a daily carry gun, I can tote the 5" IWB with no problems.

I do, however, limit myself to .38 Special +P in this gun. With these rounds it is not only a pleasure to shoot, it's also a 'tack driver'. It just is not a comfortable experience to shoot it with .357. For that load, it's the Python!

Biggest Problem: With normal pressure .38 Special rounds, it is now my wife's favorite handgun. I have to sneak it from her nightstand to take it to the range! :)

Mike

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
April 13, 2012, 05:16 AM
how have i not noticed this thread until now!?

Well out of what I currently own, it'd be my 6" GP-100, but as asked in the OP, my Grail .357 would be a full-lug 686

EmG
April 13, 2012, 11:59 PM
I have a 6" GP100 and love it, I primarily use it for hunting, however I am considering the smaller framed sp101 with w the 4.2 inch barrel to carry when hiking and camping. go with a 357 instead of just a 38 special, because u will have the option of shooting 38 special rounds in the 357

colt357
April 14, 2012, 02:49 AM
It would be my 686+ mountain gun. It can do anything I would ask a .357 to do except ride in a pocket. That's what the little j-frames are for.

Colt

elano
April 14, 2012, 04:08 AM
Ruger speed six, blued with factory ruger rubber or a tyler t and some orange paint on the front sight :)

Ps I have owned many 357s!

MARKMALL
April 14, 2012, 11:21 AM
S&W model 19, 6" barrel. Pinned and recessed of course!

miles1
April 14, 2012, 01:38 PM
My stainless 4" GP100.
What he said.

DM~
April 14, 2012, 02:57 PM
I've owned most of the guns mentioned here and i sent them down the road long time ago, but the one 357 Mag. i chose to keep is my old M-19. I kept it because i like the quality/fit/finish/weight and how it shoots better than the others i owned at the same time.

Second choise, my old S&W pre M-27... WOW, what a fine revolver they are!

DM

bill.l.johnson
April 15, 2012, 12:05 AM
My vote!

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm126/billj47/P1290019.jpg

Onward Allusion
April 15, 2012, 12:45 AM
S&w trr8

PO2Hammer
April 15, 2012, 02:31 AM
I don't carry a revolver or use one for home defense, so my choice is a nice single action.
Bad photo, great gun.
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo205/FF1063/ff%201063/A.jpg

RevDerb
April 15, 2012, 07:30 AM
This one:

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn268/RevDerb/Handguns/007-4.jpg

Thankfully, I already have it.

Smith357
April 15, 2012, 12:42 PM
This one

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/smith357/armory/Revolver/IMG_7068.jpg

788Ham
April 15, 2012, 01:50 PM
My Colt Python, 6", feels the best in my hand, and the most accurate. I did buy an SP 101 3" about 4 months ago, still getting it broken in and learning to shoot the shorter barrel at longer distances, built like a tank.

mdauben
April 15, 2012, 10:03 PM
Which would it be? Looking for a grail gun, in the .38 special / .357 magnum catagory.
4" S&W 686.

I know a lot of people like the arguably superior action and handling of the 66, but in a .357, I prefer a gun I don't have to worry about turning into an unfixable* paperweight if I don't watch the ammo I feed it. ;)

*The reason S&W stopped making the 66 is because even small amounts of hot 125gr loads can crack the forcing cone. Since the guns have been OOP so long, replacement barrels are no longer available so if you damage the forcing cone the gun can't be fixed.

wriggly
April 15, 2012, 11:10 PM
I sure love my Wiley Clapp 3 inch GP100.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA5nWdZcACI&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmGaf8vT3WU&feature=related

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/wriggly1dog/P1010513.jpg

7thGenAustinite
April 15, 2012, 11:36 PM
this… plus like 5 other dan wesson barrels

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/shooting4life/IMG_2951.jpg

mikechandler
April 16, 2012, 12:01 AM
It's a tough call, but the edge still goes to my 7 shot, 6 inch, 686-4.

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n546/mikeinchandler/686-4/686-4_009.jpg

ChCx2744
April 16, 2012, 03:57 AM
mikechandler that is a bad mamma jamma right there!

SabbathWolf
April 16, 2012, 04:01 AM
this… plus like 5 other dan wesson barrels

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/shooting4life/IMG_2951.jpg


HOLY CRAP!
lol.....
:eek:

I don't know whether to really like that or start lifting weights again...:D

Nice!

Elm Creek Smith
April 16, 2012, 07:50 PM
Model 13-3 for fighting.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/elm_creek_smith/Gun%20shots/DSC02079-1-1.jpg

Model 10-5 for general use.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/elm_creek_smith/Gun%20shots/DSC02075-1.jpg

Model 37 for backup or serious concealed carry.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/elm_creek_smith/Gun%20shots/DSC02076-1.jpg

If fighting was the main criteria, the Model 13-3 would get the nod. For everything else, I'd have to go with the Model 10-5.

ECS

gotboostvr
April 17, 2012, 06:28 AM
S&W K frame, target sights, barrel length to suit.

The K frames might be my favorite pistols to shoot, my 4" 19-3 is a great range/target/plinking gun, and my 2" 64-5 is a fantastic carry piece.

PabloJ
April 17, 2012, 08:11 AM
I am certain that you do not have a Korth. I do. I also have a Python since 30 years in the back of my safe, a good dozen of S&W revolvers and some Rugers.

The Korth has a trigger pull that just cannot be duplicated by a stock gun, unless they put the trigger on roller bearings.

Quality and quantity are not the question here but which one would be the only revolver. Make mine a Korth, next in line an MR73.
Please forgive him. He does not like one at time bench made revolver. You know ole' Colt or S&W where employees just grabbed cylinder out of parts bin is just as good.

PS. You should take a hard look at .357 TARGET revolver from sadly caput Emra Werke. For some stupid reason I have passed on boxed one in pristine condition offered to me at LGS for $600. Last MSRP was about $1300 if I remember correctly. The test target shot with Geco .38s was six-hole cloverleaf most Colts & Smith-Wessons don't shoot like that.

Stainz
April 17, 2012, 09:48 AM
So, a Korth is better than an R73? I'd hope so... this NEF R73 looks like it was made in a tech school shop class... and it's a .32 H&RM!

http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u307/Stainz_2007/002-3.jpg

Okay, levity aside, if someone wants to tell me that a miniature roller bearing race will help a trigger or hammer, with their 30-40 degree maximum rotation, is used in a Korth, I'll have to consider it as truth as I have never even seen a parts diagram of one. Still, one has to wonder - even after mini-ball races have found their way into certain pocket knives, like my Kershaw 4001SW Tilt or ZT-0561 Hinderer. At least they rotate ~180 degrees. Still, the finest folders, like those of Chris Reeves, still use bushings and thrust washers - and lube.

Anyone who has had a late model S&W lockwork apart has seen the reason they aren't as light and smooth as a Korth - the fine finish and fit of the internals is missing. In it's place - strong springs! They ensure that the hammer will hit the fp hard enough that any primer will pop - and the return spring will get that trigger back for another pull regardless of the cleanliness of the lockwork. The major source of drag on a trigger, after the hammer/hammer spring and trigger return block, is the drag between the trigger sides and the frame sides. Cleaning them - and lube - and then the trigger return and hammer, will make the use of a lighter spring or two possible. Of course, time & TLC means money - and a decent gunsmith can make a modern S&W as good as - or better than - a well worn old S&W. So, fine a good 'smith - and it wasn't that far back folks universally praised S&W's PC Shop for such work. At least they have parts, if they are needed.

Rather than getting a Korth or Manurhin, consider your favorite S&W - then have a decent 'smith clean it up.

Stainz

Frank V
April 17, 2012, 04:38 PM
I'd choose a mod 65 or 13, for me a .357 is a defensive ctg & those guns are very easy to pack & accurate, being K frames they are easy to shoot also. The fixed sights also fall into the rugged catigory. They can be had in round butt, & with 3" bbls, both adding to the easy to carry theme.:D

When I'm hunting or in the mountains poking around, I take a caliber starting with a .4.;)
Frank

SabbathWolf
April 19, 2012, 07:47 PM
Had to update this.
Got my 357/9mm Convertible today.
Boy she's a shooter!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Swampdragon/9a87a5f8.jpg

Checkman
April 19, 2012, 08:47 PM
Okay we're talking a Holy Grail here.

but I am going to go with three possible choices because I like variety.

Colt Python 2.5" or 4" barrel
Smith & Wesson Model 27 3.5" or 5" barrel
Korth revolver 3" or 4" barrel

wheelgunslinger
April 19, 2012, 09:00 PM
grail?
Probably a handbuilt wildcat calibered SAA pattern gun from one of the top tier makers.
Nothing mass produced is in my grail category.

SabbathWolf
April 19, 2012, 10:02 PM
I don't want an expensive grail gun at all to be honest.
I want something that I can shoot all day and it'll take a beating too.
If I spent a $bazillion dollars on a grail gun, it would just be safe queen probably.

Jim PHL
April 21, 2012, 01:14 AM
I have two S+W Model 65's with 3" barrels; a standard model and a Ladysmith. I think these guns are close to perfection in a revolver. I'd love to find a non-ported 3" 681. I think the extra beef in the frame and the ability to handle a steadier diet of heavy loads (full-power .357's) would be even perfecter!

mikechandler
April 21, 2012, 10:10 PM
I don't want an expensive grail gun at all to be honest.
I want something that I can shoot all day and it'll take a beating too.
If I spent a $bazillion dollars on a grail gun, it would just be safe queen probably.

The best still affordable 357 is probably the 686-4, either 4" or 5". It's the best of breed of the later model S&W 357s. I could mention the 586-3, which is also well built, but it's blued, so it needs even a bit more care. The only things better would cost a lot more, and it's at the level of good that you would spend a whole lot more money with diminishing returns on investment to bump up. But you wouldn't want to beat any S&W, they're too nice for that, and they wouldn't like it.

So...

The GP100 is your gun.

Shoot it all day, use it as a hammer or to jack up your truck when you lose your tire iron, throw it in your tool box, do what you want. You won't hurt it or break it, especially firing it. It's overbuilt in every way imaginable.

Lucky you, all you need now is about $300, which should find you a nice example on the used market.

mikechandler
April 21, 2012, 10:27 PM
Which would it be? Looking for a grail gun, in the .38 special / .357 magnum catagory.

Is everyones gun, the Python?

Dear Lord, if I am ever stuck with one gun, and it's a 357, please let it be a rifle.

But assuming you meant a revolver... and it's a grail gun... probably a Freedom Arms '97.

SabbathWolf
April 22, 2012, 01:01 AM
The best still affordable 357 is probably the 686-4, either 4" or 5". It's the best of breed of the later model S&W 357s. I could mention the 586-3, which is also well built, but it's blued, so it needs even a bit more care. The only things better would cost a lot more, and it's at the level of good that you would spend a whole lot more money with diminishing returns on investment to bump up. But you wouldn't want to beat any S&W, they're too nice for that, and they wouldn't like it.

So...

The GP100 is your gun.

Shoot it all day, use it as a hammer or to jack up your truck when you lose your tire iron, throw it in your tool box, do what you want. You won't hurt it or break it, especially firing it. It's overbuilt in every way imaginable.

Lucky you, all you need now is about $300, which should find you a nice example on the used market.

I don't need a 357.
I already have one.
I had a 4" GP-100 for years though.
Nice guns.
I still stuck with Ruger this time around too.
I like 'em.

bragmardo
April 22, 2012, 08:31 PM
Okay, levity aside, if someone wants to tell me that a miniature roller bearing race will help a trigger or hammer, with their 30-40 degree maximum rotation, is used in a Korth, I'll have to consider it as truth as I have never even seen a parts diagram of one. Still, one has to wonder - even after mini-ball races have found their way into certain pocket knives, like my Kershaw 4001SW Tilt or ZT-0561 Hinderer. At least they rotate ~180 degrees. Still, the finest folders, like those of Chris Reeves, still use bushings and thrust washers - and lube.

Anyone who has had a late model S&W lockwork apart has seen the reason they aren't as light and smooth as a Korth - the fine finish and fit of the internals is missing. In it's place - strong springs! They ensure that the hammer will hit the fp hard enough that any primer will pop - and the return spring will get that trigger back for another pull regardless of the cleanliness of the lockwork. The major source of drag on a trigger, after the hammer/hammer spring and trigger return block, is the drag between the trigger sides and the frame sides. Cleaning them - and lube - and then the trigger return and hammer, will make the use of a lighter spring or two possible. Of course, time & TLC means money - and a decent gunsmith can make a modern S&W as good as - or better than - a well worn old S&W. So, fine a good 'smith - and it wasn't that far back folks universally praised S&W's PC Shop for such work. At least they have parts, if they are needed. Please consider suspending conclusions unsupported by experience. As shown in this (http://www.all4shooters.com/it/Contenuti/Armi_corte/2011/December/Korth_Sport_.357_Magnum/) Italian article, Korth revolvers use rollers, rather than roller bearing races. Likewise the Manurhin MR73, as witness this (http://larvatus.livejournal.com/292291.html) French account. No amount of gunsmithing can replicate the effect of these design features.

Checkman
April 22, 2012, 10:23 PM
Interesting articles. Sadly I neither speak or read French or Italian. But I like the pictures.

Hondo 60
April 22, 2012, 10:46 PM
If I could have only one 38/357, it would have to be a S&W 581.

Stainz
April 23, 2012, 07:25 AM
Please consider suspending conclusions unsupported by experience. As shown in this Italian article, Korth revolvers use rollers, rather than roller bearing races. Likewise the Manurhin MR73, as witness this French account. No amount of gunsmithing can replicate the effect of these design features.
Firstly, I have an analytical mind - with the proper data, I can draw my own conclusions, with or without personal experience (Example: The effectiveness of bullet design.). Secondly, I am not multilingual - references in languages other than English, the language of this forum, are of little use, save pictures and diagrams - which I appreciated. My mind's eye gave me a better appreciation of either example's lockwork than the reality of the references. The 'roller engagement' has been used by many - particularly in semi-auto's (CZ, for example.). My chagrin when I noted the fine machining in the Korth strengthened my 'opinion' that some 'TLC', ie, time & money during manufacture, could make the production of S&W revolvers more closely replicate the action of a Korth, etc. Of course, then we mere mortals couldn't afford a S&W, either! I'll stick by my 'guns', so to speak, on this one as I have had the range from box-stock to custom gunsmithing S&W revolvers - they can be made quite smooth in operation. For my 'one and only', please make mine a S&W. And... go back to page 3 #74 - that was - and remains - my choice.

Stainz

I6turbo
May 4, 2012, 12:16 PM
For actual shooting, not concealed carrying, the .357 revolvers that suit me best among the one's I've shot are the two that I currently have. Both have amazing, awesome good triggers that make shooting a joy, and just fit my hand and shooting style. I'd give the 686 the slight edge in feel in-hand, but not sure which is the most accurate. Both are great in that regard, IME. That said re: accuracy, neither is quite as accurate as the Thompson with the 10" .357 barrel. That thing shoots like a decent rifle!

VN Vet
May 4, 2012, 06:20 PM
I already have a Colt Python and a Colt King Cobra. What else does a man need?

Vv

roaddog28
May 4, 2012, 08:39 PM
Among my ten revolvers, if I only could have one it would be the first double action 357 magnum I ever bought. This would be my Ruger Police Service Six 4 inch. Simple, strong and reliable. That is all any person needs.
Regards,
Howard
http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu283/HPitt74985/RugerServiceSix.jpg

chieftain
May 4, 2012, 11:04 PM
I carried a Victory model S&W in Vietnam after I dumped my unreliable 1911. I was an attached unit, and it was hard to get parts to keep the 45 running. I had always preferred revolvers in those days. I used the revolver a couple of times in combat, it worked. I guess it was magic.

I like the 3 inch barrel length for most of my fighting revolvers. I would most likely use my S&W model 13 3" heavy barrel and rounded grip. The last revolver issued by the FBI. I have a similar 3" version in a model 66, 64, Security Six etc....

Good luck.

Fred

shiftyer1
May 5, 2012, 01:24 AM
For me right now it's a ruger blackhawk or security six or marlin rifle.

Because they'll last me a lifetime.....the colt probably would to but they just way to pretty to use alot:) Which leads you to the battle in your head because thats alot of money just sitting there not getting shot.

Doesn't stop me from lusting after the pretty ones one bit though!

cyclopsshooter
May 5, 2012, 01:44 AM
I used the revolver a couple of times in combat, it worked. I guess it was magic.



Gunny, when I read your words I swear I hear my Uncle's voice.

And just to reiterate, because some of you don't get it :rolleyes: (3" Model 65 Round Butt) Velocities closer to 4" than 2" but still concealable. Sometimes you just dont want people seeing your iron. And remember, by OP rules, it's your only .38/357 ;)

Fishslayer
May 5, 2012, 02:15 AM
Is everyones gun, the Python?

Ummmm.... no. ;)

bragmardo
May 5, 2012, 04:46 AM
My mind's eye gave me a better appreciation of either example's lockwork than the reality of the references. The 'roller engagement' has been used by many - particularly in semi-auto's (CZ, for example.). My chagrin when I noted the fine machining in the Korth strengthened my 'opinion' that some 'TLC', ie, time & money during manufacture, could make the production of S&W revolvers more closely replicate the action of a Korth, etc.Notwithstanding the acuity of your mind's eye, the use of rollers in the trigger actions of Korth and Manurhin MR73 revolvers has nothing to do with any roller-locked autopistol actions. As for spending more time and money during manufacture, the limiting factor is the quality of materials, which is much higher in French and German revolvers. The Manurhin factory museum exhibits an MR73 used by GIGN, with a round count of 96,000 full power .357 Magnums. Let me know when you get a S&W K-frame to withstand this kind of duty.

rromeo
May 5, 2012, 08:07 AM
I have the one I'd keep: S&W model 65-3 RB 3".I feel the same way.

dawei
May 5, 2012, 02:37 PM
If I could have only one 357 revolver it would be this one, circa 1986; S&W® 4" 686 (No Dash)..........
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/dawei851/Taurus%20Revolvers/100_2231.jpg

larryh1108
May 5, 2012, 04:29 PM
My choice would be the 4" M19. I have one and love the trigger so much that I would be hard pressed to switch to a different .357. The "in-between" size makes it perfect for most needs. S&W made a great pistol with the M19, among others.

http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o435/larryh1108/Smith%20and%20Wesson/19L.jpg

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