Lewis&Clark cleaning


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Byron
April 9, 2012, 09:07 PM
Just finished Stephen Ambrose's book "Undaunted Courage" on the Lewis and Clark Expedition. What methods were used to keep the rifles clean?It seems the rifles saw extreme usage.

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Smokin'Joe
April 9, 2012, 09:19 PM
Water to clean. Bear grease to lube. They also used air rifles. Guess these didn't need cleaning, just lube.

xXxplosive
April 9, 2012, 09:27 PM
Only 1 experimental air rifle I believe.............cleaned with warm water and ashes from the fire...........used those since the early 18 Century.
Lubed with animal fat / Talo also used Talo to smear on themselves to repel misquitos..

J-Bar
April 9, 2012, 10:03 PM
Do I recall this correctly...that Lewis designed his blackpowder containers out of lead, so that when one was emptied of powder, it could be melted down into lead balls for the guns? Pretty good planning!!??

HoosierQ
April 9, 2012, 10:11 PM
Do I recall this correctly...that Lewis designed his blackpowder containers out of lead, so that when one was emptied of powder, it could be melted down into lead balls for the guns? Pretty good planning!!??
Yes that is correct. They had lead containers that were exactly the right proportion of lead to powder...sealed tight. They were very ragged when they got back but every man had a working rifle and they brought back powder and ball. Just about every other thing they ran out of (trade goods, etc) but their superior planning meant they had plenty of powder, ball and rifles. Of course, it helped that they had very little real trouble along the way in terms of violence. They had one run in with the Blackfeet and Lewis accidently got shot in the butt by one of his own men...but they had a pretty peaceful trip which helped on the ammo conservation of course.

kbbailey
April 9, 2012, 10:56 PM
An amazing adventure, and a must-read for all history/black powder enthusiasts. The trip was a great success on many levels. Not the least of which was the peaceful yet powerful representation of our government to the natives.

S.B.
April 10, 2012, 05:35 AM
Smokin'Joe, one air rifle. It was used to scare the Indians not hunting. That's all I've seen in print, anyway.
Steve

4v50 Gary
April 10, 2012, 08:43 AM
The typical cleaning material was tow.

There was only one airgun, a Giradoni repeater. Virginia Military Institute says they have it in their collection. The National Firearms Museum says the same. Anyhow, some feel its presence awed the Indians who were amazed by its silent killing ability and its ability for rapid reloading. They never knew there was only one gun and it's mystique may have prevented the natives from wiping out the Corps of Discovery.

Smokin'Joe
April 10, 2012, 08:50 AM
xXxplosive, S.B., 4v50 Gary.... OK, OK only ONE air rifle. I get it. Only ONE! ;-)

saltydog452
April 10, 2012, 12:07 PM
So maybe, just maybe, the ' Gun That Won The West' and opened the door to Manifest Destiny was an air rifle.

salty

S.B.
April 10, 2012, 03:40 PM
Smokin'Joe, sorry didn't mean to be soo hard on ya.
Steve

arcticap
April 10, 2012, 03:55 PM
So maybe, just maybe, the ' Gun That Won The West' and opened the door to Manifest Destiny was an air rifle

Lewis & Clark also handed out many "Jefferson Peace Medals" to the native Americans which may have also greatly impressed them. ;)

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kbbailey
April 10, 2012, 11:11 PM
Lewis & Clark also handed out many "Jefferson Peace Medals" to the native Americans which may have also greatly impressed them.


...and also sent some western chiefs back to D.C. to meet "the great white father" (Jefferson).

Byron
April 14, 2012, 11:24 AM
Thank You all for your responses. Byron

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