crushed .357 loads
marksg
April 20, 2012, 08:06 AM
I have some .357 reloads that i crunched the case on when seating the bullet.I was using the same die for .38s and didn't adjust right. Just not sure how to dispose of them. Can't pull the bullet and didn't want to just throw em in the trash.
I've since bought a separate die for .357, just had a duh moment before i got it.
Finally found a question i couldn't answer in a search,lol
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kingmt
April 20, 2012, 09:13 AM
Let me see a picture of the case.
marksg
April 20, 2012, 09:26 AM
I'll get one on here soon as i can. Thanks
Walkalong
April 20, 2012, 09:50 AM
I assume it is only a couple or so. Take pliers and pull them apart. Salvage the primer with a decapper if you can. Toss the rest.
cougar1717
April 20, 2012, 12:38 PM
I crunched a 357 when I started reloading. A reloading mistake eraser, aka a kinetic bullet puller has been very useful.
rcmodel
April 20, 2012, 12:50 PM
If you reload, you need a hammer bullet puller sooner or later.
Might as well be sooner.
On the other hand, if the cases are already ruined, just squish the case mouth all around in a vice or with pliers until you can get the bullet to come out by hand.
At that point, salvage the powder & primer and toss the cases & bullets in the recycle can.
rc
marksg
April 20, 2012, 01:08 PM
163040
this is one of them(if the dang pic shows up) the other is even more bent.
tried the hammer type but didn't work and the press mounted puller wouldn't get a bite on it. Guess the pliers are next,thought of that but wasn't sure of the safety of it.
thanks
rcmodel
April 20, 2012, 01:10 PM
If the hammer type didn't work?
You didn't hit it hard enough on a non-yelding surface.
rc
marksg
April 20, 2012, 01:23 PM
Thought the crimp was to deep for the hammer so didn't try to long. Hittin it on a good solid piece of oak though.
hardluk1
April 20, 2012, 01:27 PM
Put them into a bucket of water and let them soak for a couple days. That should take cary any chance of them going off.
rcmodel
April 20, 2012, 01:37 PM
They won't go off.
And a bucket of water soak for a week wouldn't be 100% insurance they wouldn't go off if they did.
Put them in the bullet pull hammer and smack them hard enough two or three times on a block of stove wood or something and they will come out.
rc
Hondo 60
April 20, 2012, 02:53 PM
On the extremely rare occasion that I make a mistake... :rolleyes:
I use my hammer type (Kinetic) bullet puller.
It doesn't do well on the carpeted floor.
I have to take it to the garage & hit on the vise.
Don't worry, it won't go off - there was a time I had 2 full boxes I had to take apart.
(just another reason to triple check the manual BEFORE loading two boxes)
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/215517/frankford-arsenal-impact-bullet-puller
As far as water goes, I once had a reloaded round in my pocket & it went through the washing machine 2x.
A coupla days later when I went to the range, I tested it & it fired just fine.
So putting it in a bucket of water may or may not work.
kingmt
April 20, 2012, 05:58 PM
Use metal or concert to strike against. I would salvage the whole thing.
marksg
April 20, 2012, 09:06 PM
Got it out. Had to use the pliers,tried hitting the hammer on the concrete steps and the cast iron table saw.The brass wasn't worth saving with the crease in it,and i have about 500 more. thanks for all the help
jibjab
April 21, 2012, 12:33 AM
Why not use Lee's miracle FCD and iron that puppy out :D
JohnM
April 21, 2012, 07:55 AM
i have about 500 more
You were crushing cases and still loaded 500 without stopping to fix the problem? :what:
kingmt
April 21, 2012, 08:33 AM
I think he was saying he wasn't concerned about few few cases because he had 500 more to replace it.
JohnM
April 21, 2012, 08:46 AM
Ahhh.
JLDickmon
April 21, 2012, 09:45 AM
Why not use Lee's miracle FCD and iron that puppy out
lolz..
marksg
April 21, 2012, 11:39 PM
I fixed it after the first one but have 500 more pieces of brass so wasn't worried about one.
Walkalong
April 22, 2012, 09:45 AM
I expanded a .45 Colt case with the expander for .45 ACP once. It sure looked funny.
Tossed it in the scrap bin. Stuff happens. :)
The Bushmaster
April 22, 2012, 10:05 AM
Put them in that "error eraser" and HIT them...I mean SWING that kenetic hammer. They will come loose. If not...Ya got a lake or river close by?
788Ham
April 22, 2012, 03:25 PM
As mentioned earlier, loosen up on that crimp too, no need for one that tight!
jibjab
April 22, 2012, 04:34 PM
I was using the same die for .38s and didn't adjust right.
You can use a spacer washer to lift the flare and seater/crimp die up .132" this should get you close when using dies adjusted for 38spl to load 357 mag.
These washers are available from RCBS
It almost looks like the case was not positioned in the shell holder all the way ?
Walkalong
April 22, 2012, 10:33 PM
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/189290/redding-die-spacer-kit
GP100man
April 23, 2012, 03:57 PM
Looks as if the die is comepletely out of adjustment.
First seat the bullet with out the die crimping mechinizim in play ,once ya have your depth set screw the seater up so it does`nt seat it deeper then adjust the crimp.
After the crimp is set then screw the seater back down to touch the bullet.
sirsloop
April 23, 2012, 08:40 PM
overcrimped... I soak my "screw up" primers in ATF or some other leftover oil before disposing. Definitely pull the bullet and salvage at least the powder if you can. If you didn't totally wreck the bullet that even can be reused.
The Bushmaster
April 24, 2012, 10:10 AM
It has been proven that primers are almost indistructable. Oils, water and other fluids will not kill them 100%. In fact it was proven by one of our elustrious members that after soaking in various fluids that 80% still fired. The only way to insure that a primer will not go off is to hit it with a firing pin of a firearm.
Get an "error Eraser"...
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