Wis 100,000 CCW permits in 6 months


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jak67429
April 20, 2012, 03:20 PM
MADISON, Wis. (AP) -- The Wisconsin Department of Justice says it's issued at least 100,000 concealed carry permits since the new law went into effect about six months ago.

The agency is required to process applications within 21 days and has been scrambling to keep up with demand. The DOJ initially hired extra staff and moved dozens of administrative workers from elsewhere in the agency to help with concealed carry applications. The rush of application submissions eventually slowed, from thousands a day to hundreds.

The agency has also been overwhelmed with calls to its handgun hotline since the law took effect. Gun dealers call the hotline to initiate background checks on buyers, which must be done within 48 hours. There were nearly 16,000 hotline calls in February alone.

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CoRoMo
April 20, 2012, 03:22 PM
And there's a thread here asking if we are losing the 2A battle. :rolleyes:

Sam1911
April 20, 2012, 03:40 PM
And there's a thread here asking if we are losing the 2A battle.

Funny thing is, that was my exact response! :)

Kingcreek
April 20, 2012, 04:16 PM
I'm not surprised. When (not if) Illinois breaks through, its going to wildly overload whatever processing system they put in place. Many, many Illinois residents are carrying outside the state on non-res permits and are just waiting to flood Springfield when the CCW tide turns.

Ryanxia
April 20, 2012, 04:23 PM
Illinois will have their CCW easily enough once Chicago becomes it's own state.

Good on Wisconsin!

Vern Humphrey
April 20, 2012, 04:55 PM
I'm not surprised. When (not if) Illinois breaks through, its going to wildly overload whatever processing system they put in place. Many, many Illinois residents are carrying outside the state on non-res permits and are just waiting to flood Springfield when the CCW tide turns.
Of course they'll be overloaded -- knowing the politicians in that state, they will probably have one 99-year old woman with a quill pen processing the applications.;)

Kingcreek
April 20, 2012, 05:34 PM
and she'll be an overpaid relative of a power politician...

Vern Humphrey
April 20, 2012, 05:57 PM
Dang! You broke the code!:evil:

DagoRed
April 20, 2012, 06:31 PM
Oh my, surely there has been a bloodbath in the Wisconsin streets, road rage killings clogging the highways, attending sporting events a risk of life, etc. etc..

(rolls eyes)

At least that is the predictions and near-hysterical rants of the anti-gun lunatics every time any state considers CCW.

Interesting thing though, none of that has ever come to pass in any state that passed the CCW laws. I believe crime usually went down.

Go figure.

Kernel
April 20, 2012, 06:41 PM
I'm 1 in 100,000. Ain't I special. :D

Midwest
April 20, 2012, 07:20 PM
I'm not surprised. When (not if) Illinois breaks through, its going to wildly overload whatever processing system they put in place. Many, many Illinois residents are carrying outside the state on non-res permits and are just waiting to flood Springfield when the CCW tide turns.


It would not surprise me if Illinois ends up like the NY State situation where it is possible to get carry permits in upstate counties but not valid in New York City. The Illinois carry permit would be stamped something like "Not valid in Chicago".

I would prefer to see Illinois have carry permits valid throughout the state, given the anti-gun sentiment out of the Windy City...I can see this happening..IF Illinois passed a law allowing carry permits...

On a much happier note. 100,000 conceal carry permits issued in Wisconsin is great news for us!

Vern Humphrey
April 20, 2012, 08:18 PM
Oh my, surely there has been a bloodbath in the Wisconsin streets, road rage killings clogging the highways, attending sporting events a risk of life, etc. etc..

(rolls eyes)

At least that is the predictions and near-hysterical rants of the anti-gun lunatics every time any state considers CCW.

Interesting thing though, none of that has ever come to pass in any state that passed the CCW laws. I believe crime usually went down.

Go figure.
Those are the same predictions made in every state when shall-issue CCW is proposed. After a short time, when all those things don't happen the media and antis will go into the "I don't want to talk about it any more" mode.

My comments to the naysayers in states proposing shall-issue CCW is, "With all the states that have such laws, and all the experience we have with shall-issue CCW, it is intellectually dishonest to talk about what might happen when this law is passed. The only ethical thing to discuss is what did happen -- and the answer is, nothing bad."

Hondo 60
April 20, 2012, 10:15 PM
Oh my, surely there has been a bloodbath in the Wisconsin streets, road rage killings clogging the highways, attending sporting events a risk of life, etc. etc..


Believe it or not, I went to dinner this evening with 2 friends and didn't even hear the sound of gunfire. :rolleyes:

But I did have my license & my gun on me, just in case. :D

buck460XVR
April 21, 2012, 10:04 AM
I'm 1 in 100,000. Ain't I special. :D

Same here. But it still pisses me off we had to wait so long thanks to Jim Doyle.



Oh my, surely there has been a bloodbath in the Wisconsin streets, road rage killings clogging the highways

Ain't seen no clogged highways, but the lines at the gun counter sure have been long since last November.

Gato MontÚs
April 21, 2012, 05:37 PM
Count me in that 100,000!

People wonder why there was such a frenzy to get it. Given we were one of the last to get it, in the face of multiple attempts blocked by that loser Doyle, lots of folks were waiting for this for a long time.

Most hilarious though are the attempts of that crap paper Milwaukee Journal Sentinel to appear as an unbiased source of clarity on the issue. They make the case for more requirements for CCW; that it's the "reasonable" thing to do. Must think most people here in Wisconsin don't have much a memory because I remember this "reasonable" bill being shot down years ago by Doyle with enthusiastic support from that same paper, claiming the same old "blood in the streets" motif.

Tis a great day for Wisconsin. Just think all that tax revenue for the state; 100,000 times $50 a pop = $5,000,000!

RBid
April 21, 2012, 07:52 PM
I suspect that the real eye-opener will be the new normal, once the dust settles a bit.

I live in a suburb of Portland, Oregon. My hometown is in the smallest of the 3 counties that contain 'the greater Portland area'. The concealed carry licensing office schedules appointments every 15 minutes, and are booked three weeks out.

There are multiple places to take the prerequisite class, and most of them are booked 2-4 weeks out.



Our people seem to be exercising their 2nd Amendment rights, more aggressively than anyone realizes.

Vern Humphrey
April 21, 2012, 08:12 PM
And to the dismay of the ruling liberals in Portland.:D

FROGO207
April 22, 2012, 08:55 AM
The sad part is we all have to fight to get these rights BACK again.:banghead::cuss::banghead: They said the same thing about getting gun rights back in National Parks a short time ago.

mingansr
April 23, 2012, 03:53 AM
yet another 1 in 100k.

Ragnar Danneskjold
April 23, 2012, 04:43 AM
And there's a thread here asking if we are losing the 2A battle.

No. There isn't. There's a thread asking if the tide is turning. As in things possibly beginning to turn around. That's not the same thing as losing. We've had a pretty good winning streak for the past decade or so. But lust like a hockey team that wins 3 games in a row, and then loses game 4, they are not longer in a winning streak. They might still be "winning" in the overall sense, but that one loss could be the start of a losing streak.

I'm glad that so many states, Wisconsin included, have legalized concealed carry. But the day after that sort of political win, you need to move on to the next battle. Either winning the respect of more rights, or fighting to keep the ones you have. I think too many people are looking at the past victories and saying "we've got this. We're going to win. It's a done deal". That's dangerous thinking. The antis are not out of the game yet. As the "is the tide turning" thread illustrate, the Zimmerman case and other high profile shootings show that the antis are still willing and able to take any negative event involving guns and paint it as a reason to enact more control. And the Zimmerman case has been a pretty big focal point. I've seen thread after thread on THR over the past few years celebrating as another state legalizes CCW or Castle Doctrine. And yet after the Zimmerman case, people in more states that FL are starting to work hard to get Stand Your Ground, Castle Doctrine, and even CCW repealed, only a few years after it becoming legal. I know in MI people are using the Zimmerman case as an argument against the bill that could possibly loosen restrictions on "pistol free zones". Remember, the BRady Bunch was formed after a single event too. It wouldn't surprise me if an entire gun control group, fighting specifically against SYG laws forms in the aftermath of the Zimmerman case, with Martin as their rallying point.

The fight isn't over. You're either gaining ground or losing it. The moment we stop activly trying to gain ground, we will start to lose it.

RBid
April 23, 2012, 04:50 AM
Vern,

A lot of our 'liberals' aren't what people think they are. If it weren't for our two party system, I suspect that the vast majority of our 'liberals' would be truly conservative. To clarify, I'm not saying 'Republican'. I am talking about folks who believe in as little government as possible in both private and business matters.

Portland is a great place to be a gun person.

CoRoMo
April 23, 2012, 11:32 AM
And there's a thread here asking if we are losing the 2A battle.
No. There isn't.
Yes. :rolleyes: There is. -> Are we losing? (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=655390)
There's a thread asking if the tide is turning.
http://static.gearslutz.com/board/images/smilies/facepalm.gif Is the tide turning against 2nd Amendment rights? (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=655742) http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/29.gif

If you had looked further down than the first dozen or so threads on the page, you'd have seen the one that Sam and I were referring to. Here's the post Sam refers to that he made there. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=8114444#post8114444) And back on Friday, when we posted here, that thread was sitting right next to this one. They were actually going back and forth as being on top of one another. It was quite funny to see one thread asking if we were losing the battle and another one that was cheering such a huge gain in our favor.

CountryUgly
April 23, 2012, 03:43 PM
Congrats Cheese Heads ! Did the 100k person get a t shirt? Hope you get to a million before the end of the year.

RBid
April 23, 2012, 04:03 PM
The current 100k mark represents about 1.7% of the state population. That's not too shabby. If that holds up in Milwaukee, that's 28,900 licensees in the greater Milwaukee area (CSA).

I would expect the figure to double, at least.

Ragnar Danneskjold
April 24, 2012, 01:07 AM
Ok. Here's the rest of my post.


I'm glad that so many states, Wisconsin included, have legalized concealed carry. But the day after that sort of political win, you need to move on to the next battle. Either winning the respect of more rights, or fighting to keep the ones you have. I think too many people are looking at the past victories and saying "we've got this. We're going to win. It's a done deal". That's dangerous thinking. The antis are not out of the game yet. As the "is the tide turning" thread illustrate, the Zimmerman case and other high profile shootings show that the antis are still willing and able to take any negative event involving guns and paint it as a reason to enact more control. And the Zimmerman case has been a pretty big focal point. I've seen thread after thread on THR over the past few years celebrating as another state legalizes CCW or Castle Doctrine. And yet after the Zimmerman case, people in more states that FL are starting to work hard to get Stand Your Ground, Castle Doctrine, and even CCW repealed, only a few years after it becoming legal. I know in MI people are using the Zimmerman case as an argument against the bill that could possibly loosen restrictions on "pistol free zones". Remember, the BRady Bunch was formed after a single event too. It wouldn't surprise me if an entire gun control group, fighting specifically against SYG laws forms in the aftermath of the Zimmerman case, with Martin as their rallying point.

The fight isn't over. You're either gaining ground or losing it. The moment we stop activly trying to gain ground, we will start to lose it.



And to add on, now there's a thread that shows a poll about how most of MI is opposed to easing up on "pistol free zones".

I think the days of so many gain in 2A freedoms are over.

buck460XVR
April 24, 2012, 08:41 AM
The fight isn't over. You're either gaining ground or losing it. The moment we stop activly trying to gain ground, we will start to lose it.





True, but just because one celebrates a victory doesn't mean he gives up the fight. I see nowhere in the OP or any other replies in this thread, other than yours, where folks talk about giving up the fight. Only elation over a battle won. Quit pissin' in other folk's cereal.

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