If you were allowed ONE full auto (NFA) weapon what would you chose from this list?


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el Godfather
April 21, 2012, 04:16 AM
Dear THR,
If somehow the policy changes and you are allowed to keep one full auto weapon, what would you chose from this list? I have left one option for 'other' in case you would really want something that is not listed. If you chose other than I request you state in heading of your response it name and share with us why you chose it. Well, I request all of you to share why you chose a certain item.

Lets have some fun with this.
Thanks

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Saakee
April 21, 2012, 04:21 AM
Which list?
And I'd likely go with a Kriss Vector in 9mm when they come out.

el Godfather
April 21, 2012, 04:29 AM
list is in the poll

kyletx1911
April 21, 2012, 06:22 AM
Would have to be the tommy

Mot45acp
April 21, 2012, 06:26 AM
M16 or at least a diaz. Due to the aftermarket support. (Different uppers/stocks etc)

Pyro
April 21, 2012, 07:56 AM
Glock 18C for CCW.
18 rounds of Glasers punching baseball sized holes in someone at 1200 rpm.

I've always wanted to see what a smg loaded with pre-frags could do to a block of gel.

Odd Job
April 21, 2012, 08:17 AM
South African R5 Galil clone:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/SLR-R5556mmRifle01.jpg

I chose that because I have already fired it in full auto and I like the rifle in semi mode (which would be how I would use it mainly)

Sobel
April 21, 2012, 08:27 AM
Bulgarian rpk or one of those fancy PKP 6P41

el Godfather
April 21, 2012, 08:28 AM
What are the glazer rounds about?

Midwest
April 21, 2012, 08:37 AM
M3 Grease Gun ..It shoots .45 acp it is compact, lightweight and simple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_submachine_gun

huntsman
April 21, 2012, 08:46 AM
I want a chopper I guess I watch too many old movies;)

ADKWOODSMAN
April 21, 2012, 08:51 AM
Thompson--why dance when you can ROCK & ROLL!

jmorris
April 21, 2012, 09:25 AM
The M16. It can be made into anything from .22lr, 9mm up to 458socom if you wanted.

Robert
April 21, 2012, 11:57 AM
Lewis Gun

forindooruseonly
April 21, 2012, 12:10 PM
Got something against belt-feds? M2 for me, thanks.

scramasax
April 21, 2012, 12:17 PM
This is like one of those if you could only have one rifle/pistol polls just amped up . Have a Thompson in the family. Mothers gift to dad on 50th wedding anniversay.

If I was going for utility it would be a m-16 for fun and history It would be a Marlin Colt beltfed.

A very hard choice for me because I like turn of last century guns.

Cheers,

ts

Mr.454
April 21, 2012, 12:40 PM
Has to be the MP5 for me. I know there are new smg designs but the MP5 has always been a dream gun of mine.

Nushif
April 21, 2012, 02:53 PM
I'd get an AK. Because I think they're cool. 8)

shotgunjoel
April 21, 2012, 03:14 PM
I voted M16 because you can change it into just about anything, but there is something about the Uzi that is just raw awesome. P90 would be a ton of fun too.

Armed 24/7
April 21, 2012, 03:31 PM
From your list, I would go with the MP5, because I have always wanted one. My dream gun would be a Dillon Aero minigun in .308

dprice3844444
April 21, 2012, 03:50 PM
the uzi.easy change barrel and bolt in case you have to do some dirty work.thread the barrel for suppressor.16 inch barrel available for longer distance work

jmorris
April 21, 2012, 04:22 PM
Got something against belt-feds? M2 for me, thanks. .

Absolutely not but he said just one, you could shoot an M16 with a .22 upper on it for a month for what it costs to run through a belt on am M2.

S.W.G.
April 21, 2012, 04:45 PM
The little guy on my right shoulder wants a RR M16A1. It would be the most practical.

The twitching gremlin on my left shoulder wants a Beretta 93R. 'Cause it's cool.

AlexanderA
April 21, 2012, 05:06 PM
After the hands-on experience with the MG's in my collection (past and present), if I had to boil it down to just one, I would say the .30 cal. Browning aircooled (M1919A4/A6).

forindooruseonly
April 21, 2012, 05:09 PM
Quote:
Got something against belt-feds? M2 for me, thanks.
.

Absolutely not but he said just one, you could shoot an M16 with a .22 upper on it for a month for what it costs to run through a belt on am M2.


I was just commenting on the lack of belt-feds on the list for the poll. I've got several MGs, I don't actually shoot them that much. When I do I want it to be an event and the fifty does it for me.

barnetmill
April 21, 2012, 09:46 PM
The list does seem to be rather restricted: no BAR, no sten gun, and it is missing quite few others. Perhaps it could set up differently according to categories of full auto gun.
It should be 1. submachine gun with choices like mine submachine gun or machine pistol, etc;
2. assault rifle, choices etc for caliber; 2. machine rifle like bren gun, bar, DP 28, etc; 5. machine guns that are belt fed and so on.

GMG3
April 21, 2012, 10:10 PM
Back in the day the Thompson was cool !

crazy-mp
April 21, 2012, 10:39 PM
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQG1CjPre2Y7_4hyRCCl0Jncksf-XsbE7Mi3Zs7wnQzDw6CJ_WO6Q

A Russian PPSh one drum and a crate of stick mags!

The Thompson still is cool :cool:

Bubbles
April 21, 2012, 11:45 PM
MP5SD - 9mm caliber is still fairly cheap to shoot, and it's a good subgun for teaching people who are new to f/a about trigger control, or for folks who are recoil-sensitive.

jmorris
April 21, 2012, 11:57 PM
The list does seem to be rather restricted: "other" covers everything.

jmstevens2
April 22, 2012, 12:00 AM
M-60

John336KJB
April 22, 2012, 12:07 AM
M-60

No doubt.

Fired an M60e3 for 2 years then Corps phased it out for the 240g.

For all the accolades the 240g rightly deserves, the 60 does it for me.

One outstanding weapon!

Respectfully Submitted,

J336kjb

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

Prince Yamato
April 22, 2012, 12:11 AM
I'd just like a Glock auto-sear. Stick it on my Glocks and away we go!

Brian Williams
April 22, 2012, 01:00 AM
1, Grease Gun, M3
2, M4
3, Thompson A1
4, Stering

blarby
April 22, 2012, 01:35 AM
Other.

Famas G2.

4v50 Gary
April 22, 2012, 01:44 AM
Thompson. It's classic Americana.

MrM4
April 22, 2012, 01:50 AM
What no Quad .50 on the list?

SniperStraz
April 22, 2012, 02:15 AM
Honestly I have no use whatsoever for a full auto weapon. However, if someone was giving them away I would pick the MP5.

amwdc
April 22, 2012, 03:13 AM
full auto ruger 10/22 hands down. cheap to shoot

Robbins290
April 22, 2012, 07:09 AM
M1918. Good ol browning automatic rifle! 20 rounds of 30-06.

doc2rn
April 22, 2012, 07:40 AM
Alice Gun or American 180 for fun inexpensive toy cause come on ya gotta pay to play!

What no Quad .50 on the list? Who could afford to feed it!

jmorris
April 22, 2012, 08:45 AM
If you just want something unique or different there are not a ton of transferable miniguns out there. I figure if you can spend over $100k on a toy, feeding it shouldn't be a problem.

jj1962hemi
April 22, 2012, 08:56 AM
I voted Thompson, then reconsidered and didn't want to skew the poll by voting again. I put a few hundred rounds through a Thompson, then through an Uzi at The Survival Store in 'Vegas and enjoyed the Thompson much much more. The weight made it easier to hold on target and the sound was unbelievable! A Thompson is to an Uzi what a Harley is to a Honda in the sound department.

I always wanted to fire an M1917 (probably my favorite) and would love to fire the BAR. I think both are iconic, but the idea of a relatively slow-cycling water-cooled MG is just too much! I'd give my vote to the M1917.

Taurus 617 CCW
April 22, 2012, 09:00 AM
Browning M2 machine gun for me.

AlexanderA
April 22, 2012, 09:06 AM
M1918. Good ol browning automatic rifle! 20 rounds of 30-06.

I owned one for about 10 years, and finally sold it. I regret selling it, because of the subsequent rise in the collector value, but inherently it's not a good design. The barrel overheats very quickly (it gets red-hot after firing a couple of magazines) and you can't change it out. The magazine capacity is too limited for an automatic weapon. These are good reasons why it was replaced by the M60 (which has its own set of problems). The BAR just begs to be deployed in the semiautomatic mode. Fortunately, new ones are available as semiautomatics, and at a lot less cost and red tape.

parsimonious_instead
April 22, 2012, 10:11 AM
I doubt I'd be able to decide between an M-16 and an MP5. I've fired a few of each and they're both sweet, accurate with excellent ergonomics.

raubvogel
April 22, 2012, 10:42 AM
AK or FAL.

paintballdude902
April 22, 2012, 01:28 PM
mp5... always loved them

armoredman
April 22, 2012, 01:53 PM
1 STG 44
2 Colt Monitor
3 CZ 75 Full Auto
Then I'd get to your list with the MP-5, but having fired and MP-10 years ago, I'd prefer that - 10mm is a heck of a subgun round!

Ian Johnson
April 22, 2012, 02:38 PM
I voted for other, sten

el Godfather
April 22, 2012, 03:10 PM
Armoredman. ...... Then you will like my collection

rodinal220
April 22, 2012, 03:12 PM
No L34A1 on the list?

Jaymo
April 22, 2012, 03:20 PM
RPD, RPK, CZ27, or PPS43. I like .30 cal.
Or a Daewoo K2.
I like ARs, but would want a gas piston gun for full auto.
I don't want it pooping where it eats when rocking and rolling. Hot propellant gases dumped into the receiver give you an overheated gun quicker than a gas piston gun. If I had a FA DI AR, I'd end up shooting it mostly SA, and what's the fun in that?

Ma Duce gets the nod, too.
Bren would make me happy.
Beretta M12 would be at the top of the list, also.

I gotta call BS on the BAR barrel getting red hot after a couple of mags.
If it got that hot, it would burst, as the heat treat would be ruined.
Plus, it would cook off ammo long before it got that hot.
No offense, but do you actually know what red hot means?

LeonCarr
April 22, 2012, 05:02 PM
Flame suit on.

IME/IMO full auto offers no advantage over its semiauto counterpart until you get into the high cyclic rate belt fed stuff, and that is really only when you have to repel human wave type enemy action.

So for me the answer is OTHER please state, and that would probably be an M249 SAW. From what I understand there are very few transferable examples, with most of them being the early FN Minimi variants.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

sirsloop
April 22, 2012, 07:04 PM
Would be terribly hard to decide between a good old M2 or a MG42...

Narwhal
April 22, 2012, 07:28 PM
Voted for the one I have, an M14. It satisfies my full auto cravings well enough. I love the semi auto variants and when I wanted a machine gun it seemed natural to look for a compatible one.

allaroundhunter
April 22, 2012, 07:40 PM
I love shooting MP5s, but I would take an HK 416

Gordon
April 22, 2012, 08:15 PM
I've always wanted a Lewis and a .30-06 one would be perfect . 3 or 4 47 rounds pans would be OK too.
http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/catalog_detail_shots.asp?Details=40327&sale=308

Axel Larson
April 22, 2012, 08:22 PM
I would go for an M16, I do not think I would use full auto that much but three round burst would be fun.

Ian
April 22, 2012, 11:25 PM
There's really not anything I really want in that list. Give me my pick of NFA, and I'd go for a really good light machine gun. Ideally an 8mm Bren gun. The LEwis is a blast to shoot too, and maybe an RPD or ZB30. But I'm not really into subguns or assault rifles.

RyeDaddy
April 22, 2012, 11:29 PM
I voted M16 because with an M16 lower I can build just about anything I wanted from there. Piston? Can do. 7" 9mm? Sure. 50 round 5.7x28 with a 10" barrel? Absolutely. 8" 300 Blackout suppressed? Hogs look out! :what:

And even if I didn't get around to all that, 5.56 ammo is relatively affordable so I could have a good time pretty often.

With the M16 as the most practical choice I've gotta admit that to me the coolest one would be a Glock 18, concealed carry (which I think would be a bad idea) or not. I'd love to let a 33 round mag rip, BRRRRRRRAP!

Maybe a Thompson, heavy beast that it is. WW2 GI configuration please. I'd take that and buy a Willys or a WW2 Harley Davidson and drive around the farm on the weekends.

Now that I think about it, the G18 would be sweet while riding a motorcycle at the farm too!

Ok I'm done. ;)

Girodin
April 23, 2012, 01:21 AM
IME/IMO full auto offers no advantage over its semiauto counterpart until you get into the high cyclic rate belt fed stuff, and that is really only when you have to repel human wave type enemy action.

IME/IMO shooting sub guns and semi carbines of the same caliber I disagree. Shoot something like a P90 and then shoot a semi PS90. There is a significant difference.

The-Reaver
April 23, 2012, 02:03 AM
FN-FAL

Right arm of the free world & never stops running.

o Unforgiven o
April 23, 2012, 03:01 AM
I voted M4/M16 for all the obvious reasons. A close second would be an Mk 48.

Shoobee
April 23, 2012, 03:10 AM
The only thing I find bad about the AK and AR designs is the large offset of the triangular front sight blade, making it more difficult to hit very small game with it up close as a survival rifle. In that respect I liked the M-14 front sight better. Otherwise I think the M4 modern design is quite good overall.

Sgt_R
April 23, 2012, 03:42 AM
Other: I'll take something man-portable and belt-fed in 7.62 NATO. An FN MK48 MOD 1 would be about right.

R

45bthompson
April 23, 2012, 04:58 AM
I already picked the Thompson but the M231 Firing Port Weapon would also be cool. Not practical at all but most cool stuff is impractical.

tarosean
April 23, 2012, 09:52 AM
Walther MPK

Hemoglobin
April 23, 2012, 09:59 AM
I picked the mp5, but thats only if the 10mm version counts lol; otherwise I would choose a hk416 as well.

dcarch
April 23, 2012, 10:02 AM
Galil for sure. NOT the CIA clone.

USAF-ORF
April 23, 2012, 10:22 AM
OTHER:
I just love the 308 (7.62x51) for Deer hunting, also the L model has 18% weight savings and incorporates titanium construction and alternative manufacturing methods for fabricating major components. Plus Belt feed is so cool.

If I could have one?:rolleyes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M240#M240L

amprecon
April 23, 2012, 01:12 PM
I am not a big fan of full auto small arms, I have no use for them and certainly cannot afford the ammo.

If they were easily and readily available to me though, and ammo cost was not a factor, I would prefer a pistol caliber carbine as they are easier to control in full auto.

I have fired a full-auto Thompson which was a hoot to say the least, however they are heavy and awkward.

Of the choices out there, I like .45acp caliber which really narrows the field down for me, so....I'd take this:

Heckler&Koch UMP45
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab167/amprecon/lg_ump_5.jpg

wlewisiii
April 23, 2012, 02:10 PM
M2 carbine. I've always been fond of that early attempt at an assault rifle.

bbuddtec
April 23, 2012, 04:35 PM
Voted Thompson, but second the UMP45 :D

CoRoMo
April 23, 2012, 04:44 PM
...with an M16 lower I can build just about anything I wanted from there.
This.

Then I'd just have to get a 9mm upper, .308 upper, 5.56mm upper, 5.45mm upper, 7.62x39 upper, etc.

Get a dedicated .22lr upper and the fun never, ever ends! And cheap to feed too!

Of course, this means you no longer have ONE full auto gun. :D

postalnut25
April 23, 2012, 04:45 PM
I went with the Thompson, because that it still they funnest thing I've ever shot. However, I could also go for a grease gun, a Glock 18, an M2 carbine or a BAR.

Really, anything with a happy switch would make me happy.

AlexanderA
April 23, 2012, 09:39 PM
Jaymo wrote:

I gotta call BS on the BAR barrel getting red hot after a couple of mags.
If it got that hot, it would burst, as the heat treat would be ruined.
Plus, it would cook off ammo long before it got that hot.
No offense, but do you actually know what red hot means?

I'm sorry you don't believe me, but that's what happened. A shame, too, because I really liked the idea of the gun before I actually took it out shooting. After 2-3 "mag dumps," one after the other, the barrel literally glowed red. (Ammo doesn't cook off in a BAR with a hot barrel because the weapon fires from the open bolt.)

The BAR is no good for sustained fire. It has to be fired in short bursts, with plenty of time for cooling in between. The original design provided for either semiautomatic or full automatic fire, and there was actually a proposal within the Army after WWI to issue it in semiautomatic only. (That proposal came to naught because there was an ongoing development process for a semiautomatic rifle, which eventually led to the M1 Garand.) The BAR had the role that it did in WWII simply because of a lack of anything better in the inventory. The German MG34/MG42 was light-years better.

foghornl
April 23, 2012, 09:51 PM
I voted Thompson, because there is just SOMETHING about shooting a full-auto .45ACP.

Couple of others I like...got to shoot an MP-40 a couple of years back. I like it better than the current crop of 9MM "Buzz guns". Also shot the M3 "Grease Gun", but my favorite is still the Thompson.

Cap'n Jack Burntbeard
April 23, 2012, 10:02 PM
I voted "other"

I'd go with an American 180, since full auto is expensive to feed

greyling22
April 23, 2012, 10:05 PM
HA! I was going to vote the 180 for the same reason. how about a select fire 10/22 instead then.

MathurinKerbouchard
April 24, 2012, 12:30 AM
PPsh!

el Godfather
April 24, 2012, 04:18 AM
Poll results show more of a sentimental attachment rather than quality.

zignal_zero
April 25, 2012, 12:56 AM
ok....

i really like how versatile the M16 is
i really like the selector method of the Steyr Aug

but i'd have to stick with a SMG. so.... either the M11/9 with a Lage Upper (already bought one and know they're G2G), MP5 or most likely, my first choice would be what i call the "Swiss Mac" the BT MP9

elano
April 25, 2012, 01:24 AM
Mini14

Dr.Rob
April 25, 2012, 01:44 AM
BAR made by Colt.

Yes they DO get hot. Still may favorite FA weapon ever. Practical? NO. Expensive to feed? YES. Low capacity? YES. Historical YES.

Have to say the MP 40 is one of the most controllable I ever fired. The Uzi was a close second.

el Godfather
April 25, 2012, 02:37 PM
Micro Uzi is the ultra reliable and sub compact.

BemidjiDweller
April 25, 2012, 02:43 PM
Easy for me, an American 180! Whats not to love?

allaroundhunter
April 25, 2012, 02:47 PM
Mini14
The Mini-14 is not an NFA weapon, you can buy one at Wal-Mart

Do you mean a Ruger AC556?

Swing
April 25, 2012, 09:11 PM
Glock 18C is damn tempting, but I'm going M2 Carbine.

wickedsprint
April 25, 2012, 09:20 PM
M16a4

hso
April 25, 2012, 09:38 PM
For practicality, the M16/M4 because of the ability to change calibers.

For pure historical class, the Thompson.

For personal collecting reasons, the Finnish Suomi KP-31.
http://guns.connect.fi/gow/scannon.jpg

dcarch
April 25, 2012, 11:07 PM
Now I'm interested as to why you chose the Soumi. What do you like about that gun?

JTW Jr.
April 26, 2012, 12:05 AM
Have to say the MP 40 is one of the most controllable I ever fired. The Uzi was a close second.

I will agree there ! My favs are Mp40, UZI, Tommy and American 180.

el Godfather
April 26, 2012, 01:33 AM
Why no one has picked G36 or Aug?

allaroundhunter
April 26, 2012, 01:39 AM
Why no one has picked G36 or Aug?

I see that they both have a pick. I am actually a little surprised that no one has picked the Beretta 93R.

Personally, I just don't like the looks of the G36; and the AUG just wasn't anything special when I shot a semi-auto version, so I have no desire for a select fire version.

boricua9mm
April 26, 2012, 07:52 AM
Other: HK registered trigger pack. That way I get the versatility of being able to run it on multiple hosts. Those hosts, ranging from $1-$3k each, would be a pittance in comparison to the cost of the trigger pack. On top of that I would only have to worry about swapping the hammer spring and ejector lever to run it on different caliber weapons. Easy Peasy.

Maybe not such a fair answer since the question was "which full auto weapon" but in the end, the ATF treats registered sears and trigger packs as firearms...

zignal_zero
April 26, 2012, 08:46 AM
The seriously cool thing about the Aug (unless I'm mistaken) is how the selector works - for semi auto, you pull the trigger lightly, only using the first portion of its stroke. For full auto, pull it all the way to the rear.

This is what I've heard, and if its true, it makes the Aug very unique :)

bkjeffrey
April 26, 2012, 09:23 AM
I voted other, only if ammo was free and abundant.

My pick? GAU-12 equalizer. 4200 rounds per minute of 30mm. I'd mount it to my gocart.

ISO1600
April 26, 2012, 01:31 PM
American 180.

ForumSurfer
April 26, 2012, 01:34 PM
Ar15 + 22R upper so I can actually afford to spend all day Saturday grinning like a possum.

saltydog452
April 26, 2012, 02:25 PM
A supressed MP 5.

salty

thorazine
April 26, 2012, 04:51 PM
If you could have one full auto weapon what would it be from this list?

If somehow the policy changes and you are allowed to keep one full auto weapon, what would you chose from this list?

The current policy allows me to have everything on the list the only limitation is money.

I'd choose the,

[X] fling poo at the person that changed the "policy" full auto gun.

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