Shotgun roll crimp


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wolfe
April 23, 2012, 01:04 AM
Going to roll crimp some slugs and buckshot rounds. More for the fact that I can Say i have done vs. anything economical.

I bought a bpi roll crimp but I am not very good with applying even pressure with a hand drill so my roll crimp was a little "canted" to one side.

I am not a woodworker or shop guy and don't have a drill press. I wouldn't mind having something but space limited and no need to spend a ton of cash.

I have googled mini drill presses and there are several out there but the mini can still be over 18" tall and have big footprint.

So my question is this. Anyone roll crimping on a small footprint drill press please let me k ow where you. Got the equipment.


Thanks

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Blue68f100
April 23, 2012, 09:20 AM
They make little clamp stands to turn hand drills into a small press. It should work for your application.

wolfe
April 23, 2012, 07:50 PM
Thanks. Got a name or link for me? Dremel was the only one I found

mbopp
April 23, 2012, 07:53 PM
I picked up a B&D bench-top drill press at the local flea market last year for $40. And there's Craigslist.

rcmodel
April 23, 2012, 07:59 PM
http://compare.ebay.com/like/360446161782?_lwgsi=y&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

http://compare.ebay.com/like/290699453400?_lwgsi=y&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

Course, you can buy a real variable speed bench top drill press with no wobble in it for not much more.
http://www.harborfreight.com/garage-shop/stationary-drill-press/5-speed-drill-press-38119.html

rc

wolfe
April 23, 2012, 08:02 PM
Thanks for the links. I wish I had more woodworking experience and I'd buy something nice

rcmodel
April 23, 2012, 08:13 PM
I had one of the 1/4" drill holder drill presses many years ago.

It was pretty funky and had so much slop in the joints the drill could move all over.

I think I could use my calibrated eyeball and hand hold a drill straighter in one place.

BTW:
See this instruction & the vid about hand roll crimping with a drill.
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/ExactaRoll-Double-Pin-Roll-Crimper-12ga/productinfo/ROLL12EX/


rc

wolfe
April 23, 2012, 09:03 PM
The crimp I bought was a BPI and I did read that article. I might need to be more patient. Tx

Duckdog
April 23, 2012, 09:25 PM
I roll crimp all of my shotgun loads from 12 ga bird shot, slugs,steel shot, etc, all the way down to 410 loads. I also bought a BPI roll crimper and I can honestly say they are crap compared to the Prescision Reloading roll crimpers. I am refering to their metal ones. I use a hand drill in reverse and get perfect crimps almost every time. There was no learning curve with them. The BPI almost flattened the crimp and was not much good on slugs, whereas the PR models work on everything.

snuffy
April 23, 2012, 11:38 PM
I got the HF drill press that RC linked to.

http://photos.imageevent.com/jptowns/arrow/websize/PA170070.JPG

In that picture, I have one of the old Lyman roll crimper,(no longer made). A few sabot rounds that were crimped with that set-up.

http://photos.imageevent.com/jptowns/arrow/websize/PA170066.JPG

I agree the BPI roll crimpers are junk. The reason is the roll pin they use instead of the 4 bumps in the lyman. Roll crimping requires a lot of heat to form the crimp. It's hard to hold the base of a shell while putting pressure on the crimper/drill. The BPI hull vise is worth it's weight in gold! The downward pressure MUST be perfectly square with the mouth of the hull. If it's not, you'll get crooked crimps.

Oh, you should be using new cases, or longer cases with the star crimp cut off.

Duckdog
April 24, 2012, 08:39 PM
The PR crimper also uses 4 bumps instead of pins. Does the Lyman need to spin backwards like the PRs?

FROGO207
April 25, 2012, 02:38 AM
The "new and improved" BPI roll crimpers have 2 wheels in them and work much better FYI.

wolfe
April 28, 2012, 07:47 PM
Well I crimped 23 today. Just don't have the knack for even downward pressure but they all looked ok

FROGO207
April 29, 2012, 07:05 AM
If you do not have the knack for even downward pressure by hand I would still seriously think about getting an inexpensive drill press. Look on Craigs list or a local swap and sell forum/paper for a used one. Seems like everything is for sale these days.:scrutiny:

wolfe
April 29, 2012, 10:13 PM
I have been thinking. Just trying not to "fill up" my bench with thing I won't use a ton. I'll keep looking. Thx.

wolfe
April 29, 2012, 10:15 PM
What is in those? Don't look like slugs to me?

wolfe
September 28, 2012, 12:17 AM
Bought this drill and it is the perfect size but I don't think it has the torque to do the job. Figures.

www.riogrande.com/Product/Mini-Drill-Press/330012 (http://www.riogrande.com/Product/Mini-Drill-Press/330012)

Should have gone with bigger model

FROGO207
September 28, 2012, 07:00 AM
I think that I paid about that for a 1/3 HP table type from Harbor Freight about 3 years ago. Just saying. Yeah the prices have gone up but not THAT much more.:scrutiny:

wolfe
September 28, 2012, 08:27 AM
I saw a harbor freight for anout $10 more but was quite bigger. I was hoping the smaller footprint would still do the job. Afraid I was wrong

FROGO207
September 28, 2012, 05:48 PM
There used to be a smallish drill press frame that I think Sears sold. You just added your hand drill and went for it. I even see some used at times. The whole thing would fit in a shoe box without the drill attached---this might be what you seek. If I can find a linky I will edit this.:)

Try Skil 45140 drill stand. or try googling hand drill stand

wolfe
September 29, 2012, 12:10 AM
Thanks. Now I need to figure out what to do with the one I bought. I'm sure the restock fee is outrageous. :)

Salmoneye
September 29, 2012, 08:12 AM
I've got two or three of these type laying around in the shop...

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2830/rollcrimper1.jpg

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