AZ leads the way yet again


captain awesome
April 23, 2012, 11:07 PM
I love living in this state :neener:

I got an email today that contained this link, thought I would share;

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Arizona Concealed Carry Bill
Passes Senate and Goes to Governor

( -- NRA-ILA reports that the Arizona Senate voted 19 to 11 in favor of House Bill 2729, allowing concealed weapons in public buildings that lack adequate security measures. The state House passed HB 2729 by a 37 to 21 vote on March 6. The bill is now with Governor Brewer for her consideration.

HB 2729, sponsored by state Representative David Gowan (R-30), would amend various sections of the Arizona Revised Statutes to remove the current prohibition on entering a public establishment or attending any public event while carrying a weapon on one’s person. Instead it would provide for regulation of firearms and ammunition on public property only if specific criteria are met.

Under HB 2729 any new ordinance or rule must meet the following criteria:

The public property is a secure facility;
Access is controlled or restricted to the general public by the presence of either a state or federal certified law enforcement officer OR an armed security officer and metal detection, x-ray, screening, or other weapon detection equipment;
There are signs prohibiting the possession of firearms clearly posted at all public entrances;
Secure firearms lockers are provided within reasonable proximity to the main public entrance, are under control of the operator of the property, and allow for immediate retrieval of the firearm upon exiting.

HB 2729 would also make a number of other significant positive changes for gun owners, including a prohibition on the state or any agency from enacting firearms regulations that are more prohibitive than or that have a greater penalty than current state law. This clarification would prevent a political subdivision from prohibiting the lawful transportation or storage of firearms and includes a provision to allow a person to institute legal action against the operator of public property if the requirements set forth are not complied with.

I hope Brewer signs it. What do you all think?

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April 23, 2012, 11:13 PM
Does "public establishment" include a privately owned store open to the public?

April 24, 2012, 12:11 AM
I'm pretty sure Brewer vetoed this last week. She is not accepting any bills for consideration right now unless they are directly related to the state's budget.

April 24, 2012, 12:24 AM
She vetoed it. It is the first gun rights law she has vetoed this session. She vetoed a similar bill last session, as well as one that would increase rights to have guns on school grounds (currently, only CCW holders - not the general "carry it because it's a right" crowd, but actual CCW holders - are allowed to have firearms on a k-12 school's property, but the firearm must be unloaded and remain in the vehicle. If the CCW holder leaves the vehicle, it must be locked up).

captain awesome
April 24, 2012, 01:39 AM
well shoot. (kicks the dusty ground in frustration.)

April 24, 2012, 04:20 AM
Well, she signed a whole slew of other ones, including allowing the use of suppressors while hunting, and eliminating magazine capacity restrictions outside of those imposed by federal migratory bird laws (3 shots max in your shotgun for hunting migratory birds still).

She had a pretty compelling argument for why she vetoed last year's bills about CCW - the only ones she vetoed weren't written very clearly, and she wanted to see some other things from the legislature before she'd sign something like that. Wonder what the explanation will be this time!

April 24, 2012, 07:46 AM
In what sense is this bill 'Arizona leading the way?'

It sounds more like 'Arizona slowly and haltingly trying to be more like Vermont' to me.

April 24, 2012, 10:18 AM
Figures, as soon as I leave AZ they start with all the good stuff. I'm in a pretty good State but hopefully our laws will get even looser.

April 24, 2012, 11:23 AM
Lemmy, see anyone else doing this? Maybe we're trying to be Vermont with less snooty architecture and a LOT more elbow room. ;)
She also vetoed a nice resolution that WOULD have authorized organized resistance to United Nations troops attempting to violate the Constitution of the US or AZ. Darn it, maybe next election year cycle.
We did add, as noted, laws to allow suppressors while hunting, something about half the US does allow. We're playing catch up there. We also removed the magazine limit for hunting, and removed the restriction of carrying an "unauthorized" weapon during hunting season as long as it isn't used to hunt with, i.e., carrying your KelTec SU16C folded over your back while bowhunting in case you "oopsie" into a marijuana farm or a bunch of smugglers crossing our supposedly safer than ever border.
BTW, I am now interested in using my SA vz-58 for javalina, since there are NO 5 round mags for them in the US, and 90 days after the legislature adjourns Sin Die, these laws go into effect. Also be good for coyote, I'd think.
We'll see about the Public Buildings thing again next year, but the redistricting might have an effect.
Ryanxia, we went Constitutional Carry two years ago...c'mon back anytime.

April 24, 2012, 11:27 AM
We had a thread dealing with this...

AZ Gov: Brewer vetoes bill allowing guns on public property

Jim NE
April 24, 2012, 11:34 AM
I'm not sure a governor should be evaluated by his/her single worst (or least popular) official action. I admire Jan Brewer and probably always will.

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