I just read about HR 308


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browncoatdawn
April 25, 2012, 01:33 AM
I just read about HR 308, a move with over 100 supporters that would, once again, restrict us to 10 round capacity magazines. It looks like it has been sent in for judicial review. I was wondering if everyone here knew, and what you thought the chances might be for seeing a ban. I figure that it has been hung up in judicial reviews for some time... but hope it wont be a real threat.

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bobbo
April 25, 2012, 02:12 AM
Short answer: Do a search. This comes up frequently, lasts for a few posts, and is locked.

Shorter answer: No.

Long answer: Carolyn McCarthy puts this bill forward every session. She's the one behind it the first time around (she was elected after her husband and son were killed in the 1993? Long Island Railroad shooting).

It's been referred to committe, just like it has been for the last 8 years. If the Democratic Party didn't pass it when they had both houses from 2008-10, the Republican-controlled House won't touch it.

It doesn't matter how many minority members cosponsor a bill. There isn't a single Republican who has cosigned. GovTrack gives it a 3-percent chance of passing... which is about the same as me hitting a deer on the way home from work.

As like every other time this comes up, it isn't going anywhere, and in the current political climate, no matter who controls the House, it never will.

Mods will be along to lock, as this has been answered (like it always is within a post or two).

browncoatdawn
April 25, 2012, 11:08 AM
I think i need to tweak my browser or something. All I found in the first 6 pages were current information, nothing on back info. Probably google "tailoring" information for the user again.

Now the deer chances are interesting. Here in Iowa, once you hit the open road, it seems like deer throw themselves infront of you. Thanks for the swift answer.

Ryanxia
April 25, 2012, 11:17 AM
Now THAT'S a High Road answer Bobbo! :)

rajb123
April 25, 2012, 11:21 AM
If Obama is re-elected this may have a real chance to become law.... Bill and Hillary Clinton passed a law that:

* banned so-called asault weapons
* Banned high capcity magazine clips
* Banned so-called cop killer bullets


Fortunately, the law expired 10 years later under the Bush#2 administration.

So YES. This can happen.

turbojohn41
April 25, 2012, 11:36 AM
Clinton had to wheel and deal at very last min to get it passed and the dems know what it cost them. Not likely to happen again.

Ryanxia
April 25, 2012, 11:38 AM
turbojohn41 - what did it cost them? Not being sarcastic just don't pay attention to this kinda stuff usually.

Husker_Fan
April 25, 2012, 11:47 AM
Bill Clinton said as recently as last week that Obama shouldn't touch gun rights issues with a ten foot pole. They understand the political fallout, and (if I'm too optimistic) have learned that these measures make no difference in regards to violent crime.

rajb123
April 25, 2012, 12:38 PM
Bill and Hillary Clinton's advice to Obama, "not to touch gun rights," applies to the period now until November 6, 2012.

If re-elected, I believe Obama would put the gun grabber mitts on.

Obama is only one of two presidents in our history who has never owned a gun. Mitt Romney would be the third.

HoosierQ
April 25, 2012, 01:32 PM
If re-elected, I believe Obama would put the gun grabber mitts on.

I think not. Pretty much no matter how you look at it, gun control has taken a pretty severe beating even with the current administration in the White House...and while. Since the Clinton days, Americans trust the government less, embrace gun ownership more, the Supreme Court decided Heller especially, we now have 49 states with some form or fashion of CC in place (allbeit with varying degrees of availability) in stead of 30-something, etc, etc, etc. The unavoidable fact that the AWB had absolutley no impact on any crime statistic has had a pretty powerful impact on politicians.

I think we will not have another AWB.

Manson
April 25, 2012, 01:57 PM
That really was a real High Road response bobbo. Even though the question has been asked and answered you took the time to provide a good explanation with enough backround to make it easily understood. And I also appreciate the refresher.

Neverwinter
April 25, 2012, 02:01 PM
turbojohn41 - what did it cost them? Not being sarcastic just don't pay attention to this kinda stuff usually.
A significant quantity of Congressional seats in the election cycle following the AWB.

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Black Knight
April 25, 2012, 07:45 PM
If it doesn't become law by an act of Congress and Obama is re-elected could he do the same thing as an Executive Order or federal regulation enforced by BATFE? I hope not. I don't know so I'm just asking.

Salmoneye
April 25, 2012, 08:07 PM
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr308

HR308 was referred to committee in January, 2011...

Elkins45
April 25, 2012, 09:03 PM
turbojohn41 - what did it cost them? Not being sarcastic just don't pay attention to this kinda stuff usually.
It is generally accepted (even by Clinton) that the AWB was the sole reason for the 1994 turnover of the House to the first Republican majority in 40 years, and for the Senate also going R in 96.

The lesson wasn't lost on all those D's who saw a huge number of their colleagues in 'safe' districts fall as a repercussion for voting for Brady and the AWB.

Swing
April 25, 2012, 09:10 PM
It has a snowball chance in hell in passing.

Ryanxia
April 26, 2012, 09:40 AM
Thanks Elkins45.

bergmen
April 26, 2012, 05:06 PM
Present owners would be grandfathered in:

Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit: (1) the transfer or possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device, except for its lawful possession within the United States on or before the date of this Act's enactment; ...

which would exempt the ownership of millions of existing hi-cap mags already in existance. Our tax dollars at work.

This is from the govtrack link posted above (okay to reuse material from site).

Dan

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