inexpensive 357 mag or 9mm?


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old fart
April 30, 2012, 09:50 PM
i traded around and have a little money to spend, i have $300 max to spend and no more. if i try and save more it would only be about $20 a month so it would be next year before i could get a more expensive gun. i only have a heritage rough rider loaded with 22 mag for defense now when i go walking and hiking, i would like to get a bigger caliber but don't know yet which way to go. i'm leaning to 2 calibers a 357 mag revolver as i'm a revolver guy and they make great woods guns. or a 9mm even though i don't like auto's that well they tend to cost less for people on a budget. also i will have to have my local shop order it as i can't order online and have it shipped to them as they don't do that, but they offer good prices. and the nearest dealer that does is 80 miles away thats 160 round trip so gas would take care of any savings i could get. now i have a 12 gauge for home defense with pistol grip and it wouldn't be bad to hike with but since i have a little money i thought i would try and get another handgun. i'm up for any suggestions on any guns that fit my budget, i know in the long run you get what you pay for, but just need one now to last untill i can get a better one. also how would 38+p be against hog or feral dogs?, i've looked online at alot of revolvers from eaa to taurus as for auto's i don't know much about them. thanks for any help.

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Coyote3855
April 30, 2012, 10:08 PM
I'd look for a good used .357 revolver for the tasks you have in mind.

Ash
April 30, 2012, 10:12 PM
I paid about that much for my Ruger Police Six in stainless. It is a fine revolver and I won't be getting rid of it. Mine was used, a Century import, but is sold and built like a tank.

TennJed
April 30, 2012, 11:50 PM
it sounds like you are limited to new or what little used guns the shop might have on hand. That is unfortunate since you can get some really good deals right now on used S&W revolvers and their 5906 9mm

Sticking to new, I woud go with a 9mm for the $300 price range. I would personaly stick to a more expensive revolver.

If you have any desire to carry conceal look at Kel Tec. Lifetime warranty and solid guns.

If carry is not what you are looking for check out the Ruger P95 or S&W Sigma

jfrey
May 1, 2012, 12:06 AM
The reviews are all over the place but Taurus makes some good revolvers that can be had slightly used, in your price range. You might find a few used semis in your range but stay away from the cheap stuff at any price. Sometimes it is tempting but don't do it. You'll be glad later.

shiftyer1
May 1, 2012, 12:48 AM
.38 special works great on feral dogs, +p would be even better. If you like revolvers and don't like semi autos much i'd stick with the revolver. I also prefer revolvers for woods guns. I have found good used rugers in the 300 range. I find the best deals when i'm broke though:) The nice thing with the .357 is the versatility of the load. Not so much with a semi auto.

I you decide to go the semi auto route. I have a keltec p-11 that i'm very happy with, it's compact, holds 11 and I think it runs around 325 new. I got mine used for 200 bux. If your looking for a bigger framed gun rugers p series can be found for 300 gently used pretty easily. They are not small but they are pretty rugged.

I'm in Austin Tx but if you can find an ffl on your end I could maybe lend a hand once you decide what you want. I come across deals all the time at work.

I've never owned a Taurus but haven't heard much good about them on the internet. Saying that, if I came across one I liked for a fair price I wouldn't hesitate. I'd like to come across the tracker? model. The one that resembles a 686. I have spoken with several folks whom I know own taurus and they didn't have any compaints.

Also search for other ffl's in your area, you may be surprised to find out that bill down the street has an ffl and does transfers for a small fee. I think I used google last time i needed to find one.

ZVP
May 1, 2012, 01:36 AM
I'd stick to the highly versiatle .357 Magnum, because of the broad range of different ammo that one can shoot through one.
I carry a Stainless, 4 5/8", .357 Ruger Vaquero. Nolstalgia-wise, it rates a "10" and being a revolver, you can load over a dozen different loads into it!
Depending on the Dog, a basic .38 Special will anchor most breeds! Some of the larger ones might be better drilled with a hot .357 just to be "sure".
The Ruger can easilly handle +P loads.
Far as your question about Tarus revolvers, they are some of the best of the imports.
HTH,
ZVP

ArchAngelCD
May 1, 2012, 04:24 AM
I would think a good used .38 Special will serve you well as a SD revolver and it will be within your budget. If you really want a .357 Magnum it will be hard to find @$300 or less although the above mentioned Ruger Six-Series revolvers will be close. That or try to find a short barrel S&W K frame for around the same price. A good M65 or M66 with a 3" barrel would make a great SD carry...

Ash
May 1, 2012, 07:24 AM
You said that in the long run, you get what you pay for, this is not always the case. The Ruger six-series revolvers are not high-priced, but they are solid, reliable, rugged revolvers. A Service or Security Six will last forever.

mcdonl
May 1, 2012, 04:53 PM
Boy, show me where I can get a used six series in .357 for $300 and I will but it right now.

The OP said $300 max, so that would be about $250 before shipping and transfer. I know there are none around for that price. I have been looking.

I would think you could get a used charter arms or rossi for that much money though, and they are good guns.

BCRider
May 1, 2012, 05:27 PM
I think I'd sit back and be patient and look for a well worn but mechanically tight S&W in .38Spl. The models made since the later 50's are all OK to use with +P. And +P isn't anything to turn up your nose toward.

It's a shame you missed out on the sale of police/security company turn in revolvers at Bud's Gun Shop. At least I can't find any listing for them anymore. THey were selling for $260 as I recall. Perhaps some more will show up soon.

If you're on a tight budget I'd also suggest you consider putting together a modest and low cost reloading setup. It'll cost you up front but it will then allow you to load and shoot more for the same ammo budget.

F-111 John
May 1, 2012, 05:41 PM
I'd recommend a good used 9mm. In addition to being less expensive and more abundant than a .357, 9mm is much cheaper to shoot than .38 spl Winchester White Box from Walmart, let alone decent .38 +P or .357 carry ammo.

jrdolall
May 1, 2012, 05:56 PM
You can get a Hi Point 9mm for under $200 out the door. I see them at gun shows for $139 NIB occasionally. It is a great gun if you don't plan to carry concealed. It is too heavy and bulky but mine is pretty accurate and very reliable. The extra $100 can buy a few boxes of FMJ ammo for practice and pay for your gas. I consider it to be a "truck gun" and keep it loaded with JHP with a backup mag of cheap FMJ for armadillos. If it gets scratched I will be okay and I can't say that about my Colt Revolvers, S&W revolvers, or most of my other pistols.

I dont know about a 9mm or 38 on a feral hog. They are tough enough with a high power rifle.

Ash
May 1, 2012, 08:02 PM
Picked my most recent Police Service Six up for $300 at the Hattiesburg gun show just a month ago. Not a problem, because the one I had before I paid $180 at the pawnshop down the road in 2005.

Swing
May 1, 2012, 08:05 PM
For hiking, I would go with the .357 Mag. Decent, lightly used Rugers can be had in that zone cost wise.

mcdonl
May 1, 2012, 09:28 PM
Picked my most recent Police Service Six up for $300 at the Hattiesburg gun show just a month ago. Not a problem, because the one I had before I paid $180 at the pawnshop down the road in 2005.
Damn! I wish they had deals like that up here. You cannot touch a Security Six for under $400 in these parts... and the one or two gun shows we get are pretty much a joke.

tryshoot
May 1, 2012, 10:21 PM
The 357 is more what you want, the 9mm is very good. Hipoint does not have a great name, but a friend of mine has sold 30+ with no problems.

mordechaianiliewicz
May 1, 2012, 10:33 PM
.357- Ruger Security Six

9mm- Look for a used Ruger P95 or possibly even a Glock 17 (though you are more likely to get the Ruger P95 for that price)

Agsalaska
May 2, 2012, 12:18 AM
Since your dealer wont do transfers you may be out of luck on those used revolvers. That stinks. Because that would be the way to go.

gbw
May 2, 2012, 12:43 AM
My general purpose utility pistol is a Kel-Tec PF9. Inexpensive, small, flat, light, reliable, powerful, accurate enough. PRetty good grip design. They sell a belt clip for it, I clip it to my walking shorts and almost forget it's there. Load with snake shot and hardball.

Meets your price point easily.

I like revolvers for range, but the Kel-Tec is what I pick up for walking around carry.

Nearly any .357 revolver is going to be very heavy and bulky to carry much. The very light .38s / 357s, Smith M37 et al. revolvers I don't care for much as the recoil annoys me.

Bushpilot
May 2, 2012, 12:53 AM
I'd hold out for a .357 instead of buying something that you really don't want. You will find what you're looking for if you just stick with it for a while. Good Luck

Ash
May 2, 2012, 07:24 AM
The transfers issue stinks. Century marked Rugers are pretty cheap, and since I buy them for shooting, that is a great way to go.

A decent 357 at this shop? You'll just have to see what they have. I'd check and see what they have then post back with the results.

loneviking
May 2, 2012, 01:18 PM
Unless you get really lucky and find a used .357 by a major manufacturer, your best bet will be the 9mm. A cheap .357 is a world of grief from timing issues to broken parts. There are scads of quality 3rd gen S&W 9mms out there. I just recently bought a S&W 910 for $300 in excellent condition. With Mecgar mags, the gun has 18 rounds on board. Depending on what size you want, look for the 3913, 908, 910, 5906, 6906, 915...to name a few models.

alde
May 2, 2012, 05:59 PM
You might get lucky and find a decent S&W model 10 or some older S&W revolver in your price range. They are .38 Special but most will handle +p with no problem. Don't worry about holster wear on the finish as long as it's in good mechanical condition. They can be very accurate and are solid revolvers.

Smith357
May 2, 2012, 06:33 PM
CDNN has S&W 5906s for $299, you won't find a better 9mm for the money. J&G has M64 revolvers for $249.

FMF Doc
May 2, 2012, 07:26 PM
Charter Arms makes so low cost but reliable 5shot snubbies for not too much. Used, you should be in luck.

mgmorden
May 3, 2012, 02:24 PM
Search around and you can find guns in that range. I bought a Glock 17 actually from a dealer back around Christmas time for only $265. That's not a common price, but you can often find SOMETHING workable at a good deal if you look hard enough.

In particular, I'd focus on used Ruger P-series guns and possibly some revolvers. .357 Mags I don't often see in that price range, but plenty of .38 Specials can be found there. There are some used Taurus revolvers in .38 recently that have been going for $150-175.

Actually, I found these during a quick search at Buds:

Tanfoglio 9mm (CZ-75 clone) for $279 including shipping:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/884/products_id/411548742/OVERSTOCK+GUNS+%21%21/CENTURY%20/%20TANFOGLIO%20USED%20COMBAT%20SHOOTING%20COHAI%204.5%209mm/

S&W Model 59 9mm for $269 including shipping:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/884/products_id/411548738/OVERSTOCK+GUNS+%21%21/Century/%20USED%20S/W%2059%20PISTOL%209MM--Fair%20condition/

Both are from used lots of guns that certainly don't look like safe queens, but most such guns actually shoot and function just fine.

Possibly an even better deal from Wideners: S&W 5906 for $275 + shipping (for C&R guns they only charge $20 or so - pretty sure if you're going to a regular 01 FFL for transfer its less than $15)
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100000277&dir=700|1012|1026

smalls
May 4, 2012, 10:06 AM
If carry is not what you are looking for check out the Ruger P95 or S&W Sigma

I disagree with the carry part, but both of these are fine guns in the $300 range.

I'm not a revolver guy, but my mom has a Charter Arms .38 that I think she got in that price range, and it's a pretty good gun. IIRC the finish wasn't that great, but it shoots great.

Another option is looking around your area for a "kitchen table" FFL. If a gun shop won't do transfers, they certainly will. That'll broaden your search, and you might be able to find a good used deal through the wanted ads, or CDNN, etc.

larryh1108
May 4, 2012, 11:18 AM
He can only order thru his dealer so it seems it has to be new.
Charter Arms should have a .357 around his price range. If not then a .38 Special for sure. Rossi or Taurus may have something there too. In 9mm he has a few more choices. I hate to say it but a Hi Point may be what he is looking for but there are smaller choices. However, staying under $300 is the problem. Kel Tec has a nice line for around $300. He does have choices but new is his only option by his opening post.

Walking Dead
May 5, 2012, 01:59 AM
I'd look at the KelTec PF9. It fits all your criteria especially the price. With the money left over you can get a holster and a few boxes of ammo.

PabloJ
May 5, 2012, 03:18 AM
i traded around and have a little money to spend, i have $300 max to spend and no more. if i try and save more it would only be about $20 a month so it would be next year before i could get a more expensive gun. i only have a heritage rough rider loaded with 22 mag for defense now when i go walking and hiking, i would like to get a bigger caliber but don't know yet which way to go. i'm leaning to 2 calibers a 357 mag revolver as i'm a revolver guy and they make great woods guns. or a 9mm even though i don't like auto's that well they tend to cost less for people on a budget. also i will have to have my local shop order it as i can't order online and have it shipped to them as they don't do that, but they offer good prices. and the nearest dealer that does is 80 miles away thats 160 round trip so gas would take care of any savings i could get. now i have a 12 gauge for home defense with pistol grip and it wouldn't be bad to hike with but since i have a little money i thought i would try and get another handgun. i'm up for any suggestions on any guns that fit my budget, i know in the long run you get what you pay for, but just need one now to last untill i can get a better one. also how would 38+p be against hog or feral dogs?, i've looked online at alot of revolvers from eaa to taurus as for auto's i don't know much about them. thanks for any help.
Something like Dan Wesson Model 14 with 4" barrel and rounded grip can be had for $300.
While the piece is ugly in H&R kinda way the trigger pulls are very good and accuracy even more impressive with grey-boxed .38spl Winchester target loads.

Ash
May 7, 2012, 07:59 PM
In any case, the Dan Wesson revolvers are good-quality.

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