Practical.. or Tactical?


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twoblink
January 30, 2003, 12:49 PM
The never ending debate between myself and Skunk...

So I'll open it up to the floor;

If you had two weapons to choose from; one was more practical but ugly, and the other was "tactical looking" but less practical, which would you choose??

I choose practical... We all know what Skunk chooses..

I like my guns, doodad free. Skunk likes to spend at least 150% of the gun price, on doodads...

There is no right or wrong answer... just differences in opinions..

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PATH
January 30, 2003, 12:55 PM
Practical wins hands down everytime.

Analogy: Russian front- German uniform looks nice but does not keep you warm

Russian uniforms not pretty but oh so roasty toasty.

result. Germans freeze and die

Tactical- looks pretty but does not work so well. SHTF and you die.

Practical- works like a charm every time and you are still breathing!

Easy choice for me.;)

KMKeller
January 30, 2003, 01:10 PM
Practical, it's a machine with a mission.

twoblink
January 30, 2003, 01:52 PM
PATH,

you got the slogan wrong:

"Go Practical; at least then you will still be alive to pose being tactical..."

Skunk... I have the lead!! 3:0 so far..

Kaylee
January 30, 2003, 01:53 PM
Not necessarily an either-or.

Depending on the application, some "tactical" do-dads have a purpose... That makes them practical. A sound suppressor on an indoor self defense weapon, for example. And this same modification will interfere with other applications (as a carry pistol, for instance).

Other "just for looks" modifications don't noticably interfere with function. Say, fancy inlays on a riflestock, or a purple anodized AR receiver with pretty barbie flower stickers on it so your boyfriend won't take it to the range without you... none of that makes the rifle less able to function reliably as designed.

So I vote... "it depends."
As a general rule... modified where necessary to do a specified task better... but not modified in a functional manner without good practical reason.

-K

MonkeyMan
January 30, 2003, 02:09 PM
a purple anodized AR receiver with pretty barbie flower stickers on it so your boyfriend won't take it to the range without you...
:what:

Hello, tech support? Yeah, I need ANOTHER keyboard ...
:D

If it's practical why can't it be tactical?

PATH
January 30, 2003, 02:17 PM
twoblink,

LOL! I will put that down in the book. "Go practical so you can later pose tactical". Yup, it sings!

Frohickey
January 30, 2003, 02:18 PM
Two sides of the same coin.

Tactical is practical depending on the circumstances.
Like having a combat light on a pistol. That is practical if you are doing a lot of night shooting.
Like having night sights on a pistol. That is practical if you are doing a lot of night shooting.
Like having a side saddle on your shotgun. That is practical if you need to grab a shotgun quickly to investigate a bump in the night.

10-Ring
January 30, 2003, 03:16 PM
Like I told SKunk recently, "It's not how good you are, it's how good you look.!" I'm voting Tactical on this one :neener:

BerettaNut92
January 30, 2003, 03:17 PM
Hey buddy, the 150% was just because the Remington 870 as a base gun is so cheap, but Surefire lights and a set of decent sights aren't.

Practical IS tactical. The more you like the gun, the more you practice, the gooder you is.

If you had two weapons to choose from; one was more practical but ugly, and the other was "tactical looking" but less practical, which would you choose??...I choose practical... We all know what Skunk chooses..


I think that's a little unfair. If they performed equally, and one looked better, the choice would be clear. A red dot sight and a taclight do have practical uses. Now, I have no use for a sniper rifle with a light mounted on the scope or a laser beam attached to its head, so I wouldn't do something like that. In all reality, I'm not that strong, so I try to keep the thing as light as possible. Some doodads costs are more than their limited benefits, but some aren't, so I go with those.

PATH
January 30, 2003, 03:21 PM
skunkabilly,

Let us all agree then that our tactical should be practical and our practical should be tactical! Say that 10 times real fast!;) :D

Duke of Lawnchair
January 30, 2003, 06:21 PM
I like to oot ooples and boonoonoos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peetmoss
January 30, 2003, 06:31 PM
Depends if your a Mall Ninja or not.

El Tejon
January 30, 2003, 06:55 PM
It is for fighting. Who cares what label it bears?

Betty
January 30, 2003, 07:17 PM
I say pick whatever's the right tool for the job.

I've got a Remington 870 Wingmaster with all the pretty wood. It's about as long as I am tall. And I also have a Remington 1187 that's been passed thru Scattergun Tech. with the fancy bells n' whistles. I happen to like the looks of the 1187 better, all "tactical" and beefy in a runt-sized package.

The 870 is practical for trap shooting.
The 1187 is practical for thief shooting.

Overall, I really don't care as long as I can shoot well with what I have. If it's overall NOT practical, I won't own it for long. I switch carry guns from my basic S&W 640 to my USPc plasti-gun with fancy night sights. One is more practical on certain days than the other, depending on wardrobe, etc.

seeker_two
January 30, 2003, 09:03 PM
Practical IS tactical. Just ask the Russians...:cool:

CWL
January 30, 2003, 09:31 PM
Survived some rough places using practical weaponry. Carried a borrowed AK47 out of an ambush. Never worried about how my weapon looked. My pants weren't too clean either.

At home my toys have gadgety add-ons.

Kahr carrier
January 31, 2003, 09:32 AM
You can have both in one package.:) :neener:

Mute
January 31, 2003, 12:19 PM
Take the practical one and paint it black. :what:

MMcCall
January 31, 2003, 12:35 PM
This whole practical/tactical thing has turned into semantic nonsense, and you two are becoming a punch line.

I wouldn't want to face a trained and determined opponent with ANY gun, no matter what it looked like. Ballistics trumps subjective looks any day of the week.

Woodchuck
January 31, 2003, 05:16 PM
If you are trying to scare them to death, get the Tactical. If you plan to shoot em to death get the Practical. A single shot 12 guage with 00 Buck is practical enough.

Freedom in theSkies
January 31, 2003, 05:37 PM
Well now, a person can hang so much tactical gear on a gun, that it takes a whole squad just to carry it.

On the other hand, if you don't have it, you can't use it.

You bette take a half point each, for moderation.:evil:

fixer
February 1, 2003, 12:17 AM
form follows function.

twoblink
February 3, 2003, 11:08 PM
I'm hoping that most of you who are reading it; understand that me and Skunk, we are pretty lighthearted about these things; punchlines? Yep..

But in all seriousness; I've got an M1A and I'm pretty good with it; and so regardless of being labelled practical or tactical; Just be good with it..

That said; I still say Tactical means spending 150% more on the accessories then the gun!

4570Rick
February 3, 2003, 11:37 PM
The perfect marrige of practical and tactical.:D

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HS/LD
February 4, 2003, 12:38 AM
Inherently TACTICAL is PRACTICAL!

Main Entry: tac·ti·cal
Pronunciation: 'tak-ti-k&l
Function: adjective
Date: 1570
1 : of or relating to combat tactics : as a (1) : of or occurring at the battlefront <tactical defense> <tactical first strike> (2) : using or being weapons or forces employed at the battlefront <tactical missiles> b of an air force : of, relating to, or designed for air attack in close support of friendly ground forces
2 a : of or relating to tactics : as (1) : of or relating to small-scale actions serving a larger purpose (2) : made or carried out with only a limited or immediate end in view b : adroit in planning or maneuvering to accomplish a purpose

Main Entry: 1prac·ti·cal
Pronunciation: 'prak-ti-k&l
Function: adjective
Date: 15th century
1 a : of, relating to, or manifested in practice or action : not theoretical or ideal <a practical question> <for all practical purposes> b : being such in practice or effect : VIRTUAL <a practical failure>

One is simply designed with combat as the focus the other... is not. It just so happens that the TACTICAL weapons look better too. :) (rip off that woods and relplace it with plastic).

So TACTICAL WINS!

"Oh weapons of war, why do men love you so?"

HS/LD

riverdog
February 4, 2003, 09:18 AM
Don't confuse "tactical looking" with "tactical". High-speed, low-drag types don't hang stuff on their weapons for looks. In the context of this topic, I'll take practical any day.

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