Synthetic Gun Oils with PTFE


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Rubicon1851
May 1, 2012, 10:18 PM
How do these mix with the black (or substitutes)? Haven't done an exhaustive search by any stretch, just wondered if the more experienced among us could/would comment. Thanks.

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Hammerdown77
May 2, 2012, 10:15 AM
I don't know about Teflon, but I have been using EEZOX (which is a synthetic) and it works great with black powder. It's not really a cleaner, but I primarily use it for protecting the metal, and as a lubricant. It has not reacted with BP fouling and has not made the gun hard to clean at all. In fact, the gun cleans up very easily with a little soap and water.

I emailed EEZOX before using it in my BP guns and they told me it would work fine, that they had lots of customers who shoot BP and use it, and that it doesn't burn at the temps BP does because it's a synthetic.

Rubicon1851
May 2, 2012, 09:25 PM
Thanks Hammer... I was looking at the "Birchwood Casey" synthetic Gun Oil with PTFE (?) ...still gotta find out what this PTFE stuff is... but thinking primarily to use it for lubing the inner workings after cleaning/scrubbing-up/drying. I'm kinda partial to using the Hornady One-Shot Cleaner/Lube for final wipe-down. Will comment after using if anything noteworthy.

dprice3844444
May 2, 2012, 09:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene ptfe

Rubicon1851
May 2, 2012, 09:45 PM
Thanks.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
May 3, 2012, 12:15 AM
I would not ever put any kind of that oil in any of my match barrels!

joecil
May 3, 2012, 10:28 AM
I use Breakfree CLP and Tetra grease to oil/lube all my guns. The main difference is how I clean the BP guns in that I use Simple Green and water then dry it good. At that point I use Hoppes #9 in the barrels/cylinders as I normally would followed by lube/oil.

Hammerdown77
May 3, 2012, 12:11 PM
I'm surprised you don't have problems with the CLP causing hard fouling. Maybe you don't have enough in the bore and cylinders to cause a problem when you shoot it.

As far as the original poster's question, I think I would be ok using something with Teflon (PTFE) in it inside the frame on the action parts, but I probably wouldn't put it in the barrel or cylinder or any other place that would have direct exposure to the BP fouling.

That's with real black. I don't know about the subs.

joecil
May 3, 2012, 12:33 PM
I don't use it in the bore for my black powder guns on the out side and workings. I use a patch with Ballistol to lube inside the barrel with. Being 45 Colt I don't worry much about the cylinders.

toolslinger
May 4, 2012, 04:34 PM
That's funny that a scientific feature of teflon is that a gekko won't stick to it:D
I will also now be wrapping my hummingbird feeder hangers in teflon tape to keep ants from crawling down them;)
Amazing what you can learn on a blackpowder site:what:
I also thought that Break Free CLP was mostly mineral oil and safe for black powder:scrutiny:
Have y'all had bad luck with it?

Hammerdown77
May 4, 2012, 04:47 PM
You're probably thinking of Ballistol. It is mostly mineral oil and lots of people use it for black powder.

Here's the CLP MSDS:
http://www.tompkins-co.org/msds/m2291.pdf

Rubicon1851
May 12, 2012, 11:03 PM
Appreciate all the comments... I'm thinking I'll forego any experiments with synthetics and stick with what has been working for me: completely disassemble, scrub with equal parts mixture of oil soap/hydrogen peroxide/rubbing alcohol, hot-water rinse, dry(clean cloth and patches), low-temp oven (30mins) and then generous rub-down with wonderlube; when cool, final wipe with Hornady one-shot BP cleaner/lube during and after re-assembly. Based on what I've read, I think I'm getting away with what I'm doing primarily due to the climate/humidity conditions here... if it works, don't fix it. Thanks again.

Hammerdown77
May 12, 2012, 11:44 PM
I was so tired after shooting today, and the guns were so nasty, I couldn't bring myself to go at them with the spray bottle and q-tips to get in all the nooks and crannies. I broke them down and threw them in a bucket of hot soapy water and let 'em sit for about 10 minutes. Scrubbed a little, pulled everything out and did a quick dry off with paper towels and patches, sprayed down with WD-40, re-assembled. Quick and easy.

Tomorrow I'll probably freak out about it, being the slightly OCD person I am, but today I was just happy not to go through 500 q-tips...

frontiergander
May 13, 2012, 03:13 PM
Oiling with Synthetic is fine guys, you have to clean it as well as natural lubes from the bore before loading and firing or else it will cause issues. Alcohol patches or something like carb cleaner, gun scrubber will cut it out of the bore prior to loading.

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