.45 LC plastic cases ?


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Jim, West PA
May 3, 2012, 12:40 PM
Anyone know of a source for SPEER .45 plastic cases for rubber bullets ?
I've searched MIdway, CTD and Brownell's with no luck.
I don't wanna ruin good LC cases by drillin the flash holes.

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joecil
May 3, 2012, 12:45 PM
I'm not really up on rubber bullets and plastic cases but do have a knowledge of wax bullets. By drilling he flash holes I assume them use something like a shot shell primer instead of a LPP. If so perhaps the wax bullet shells sold here setup for wax which just use a 209 primer and a wax bullet with no powder. http://www.waxbullet.com/ These by the way work well for quick draw and hurt if hit with them.

rcmodel
May 3, 2012, 12:47 PM
Speer never made .45 Colt plastic practice ammo as far as I know.

Here is Speer info, and they have a note below the .45 bullets saying you use in standad brass .45 ACP cases.

http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/components/plastic_training_bullets.aspx

rc

Jim, West PA
May 3, 2012, 04:44 PM
I'm not really up on rubber bullets and plastic cases but do have a knowledge of wax bullets. By drilling he flash holes I assume them use something like a shot shell primer instead of a LPP. If so perhaps the wax bullet shells sold here setup for wax which just use a 209 primer and a wax bullet with no powder. http://www.waxbullet.com/ These by the way work well for quick draw and hurt if hit with them.
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Joe

Thanx Joe, i am familiar with wax 'bullets'.
I can get the .45 rubber bullets but didn't know if plastic cases were available.
I'm tryin not to alter any .45 LC cases by drillin 'em out.
They are jist too valuable.

1911Tuner
May 3, 2012, 04:51 PM
I'm unsure of the brand, but I'll go check in a few minutes...but there are specially-made .45 Colt cases available that take standard shot shell primers...and they're a slip fit into the pocket. If Speer still markets the plastic .45 caliber bullets, you're in like Flint. Or, you can fabricate your gallery loads from wax pretty easily.

Stand by...

Jim, West PA
May 3, 2012, 04:51 PM
Speer never made .45 Colt plastic practice ammo as far as I know.

Here is Speer info, and they have a note below the .45 bullets saying you use in standad brass .45 ACP cases.

http://www.speer-bullets.com/product...g_bullets.aspx

rc


Thanx rc.
"for use in .45 ACP only ".....looks like that 'bout seals the deal fer me then. I was wantin to shoot them rubber bullets from my .45 LC Vaqero.:(
Mmm..maybe i'll pick up a sack of 'em and try 'em in a LC case anywho jist to see how/if they work.

Oh, no, wait..... what am i sayin ?!?!?!
SPEER is referin to thier plastic training bullets.
I am gonna be usin rubber bullets. :D
Looks like i'm out o' luck with plastic cases tho.
I've got an add in the reloadin forum here to se iffin anyone has any 'worn out ' LC cases. LC cases are like hens teeth and i don't wanna shoot rubber bullets enough to go and ruin any o' my LC cases.

1911Tuner
May 3, 2012, 04:54 PM
Jim...Read my post above.

1911Tuner
May 3, 2012, 05:00 PM
The tiny headstamp...to my aged eyes...appears to be either CFDA or 6FDA with a * opposite. Maybe a Starline catalog would be a good place to start looking. Since they're very likely made for SA fast-draw competition, a CAS organization could provide the information.

joecil
May 3, 2012, 05:35 PM
Yes you said you didn't want to use your 45 Colt shells. So my question how many of these do you expect to use. The site I posted sells the nickle plated cases drilled for a 209 shot shell primer for $35 for 50 cases. Now as I said I don't have a clue how rubber bullets and loads work but if they don't use powder, depending on the primer for the charge like a wax bullet then 50 cases would last almost forever. I have shot more than 50 wax bullets through the same case with no effect on the case that I can see and are still going strong. They also don't require any loading equipment other than a means of removing the old primer and replacing it. I use a punch with a block of wood to remove the spent primer and a wood dowel to put a new primer in. Bullets simply press in and I do it by hand.

Jeff H
May 3, 2012, 08:02 PM
Assuming you are just using the primer and no powder to launch the rubber bullet,
have you tried to see if the primer backs out if you don't drill out the flash hole?

I've launched a fair amount of gluelets from a 1911 and not seen any issues with the primer backing out with regular brass(I know, I know, it is a little different in an auto loader, but the primers still seemed to be below flush after they were shot). Similar results with a 38spec. YMMV

rcmodel
May 3, 2012, 08:13 PM
Revolvers don't work that way.

They will back out and tie up the cylinder.

rc

ArchAngelCD
May 4, 2012, 12:06 AM
I was able to order them from my local dealer. His supplier (Jerry's) had them in stock.

Lost Sheep
May 4, 2012, 02:52 AM
Do you think you could find some used .410 shotgun shells, cut them down and try one to see if it will work.

Lost Sheep

Sport45
May 4, 2012, 09:56 PM
I was going to suggest Starline brass for blanks, but it really isn't cheaper than the real deal.

.45 Colt brass isn't made out of gold or anything, just drill a few primer holes and set those aside for practice. You can replace them with brand spanking new brass for about a quarter a piece.

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