word association - Colt .45


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Mrcymstr
May 4, 2012, 11:10 PM
When you hear "Colt .45" do you think SAA .45LC or 1911 .45 ACP?

I've always think SAA and I'm starting to think I'm the oddball because it appears most think of a 1911. I'm always young which seems to further exasperate the issue (my generation prefers black plastic and at least semi-auto it appears)

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Rail Driver
May 4, 2012, 11:12 PM
Personally when I hear Colt .45, I think malt liquor - when I hear .45 Colt, I think of an SAA or other revolver in .45 Long Colt, and when I hear .45ACP or .45 or .45 Auto, I think 1911.

BullFrawg
May 4, 2012, 11:12 PM
Normally I think SAA, but in a rap song I think 1911 ;)

Mrcymstr
May 4, 2012, 11:17 PM
Actually if we're talking rap song I think @Rail Drivers answer is more appropriate. :neener:

allaroundhunter
May 4, 2012, 11:17 PM
I think SAA.


In Hank Williams Jr.'s "A Country Boy Can Survive", he says:
I'd like to spit some beechnut in that dude's eye, and shoot him with my ol' .45

To which I think 1911 :)

cyclopsshooter
May 4, 2012, 11:30 PM
Colt .45 = 1911
.45 Colt = Cartridge that old guys shoot

BCRider
May 4, 2012, 11:33 PM
"Other".... malt liquor


:D

hogshead
May 4, 2012, 11:39 PM
Funny when I saw the post on the board I thought SAA thats why I clicked on it. Guess I'm an old guy.

cl4de6
May 4, 2012, 11:41 PM
Exactly! Billy Dee Williams: "It Works Every Time."

Nushif
May 5, 2012, 12:34 AM
I'm a younger, almost exclusively semi-auto shooter but just because I reload ... Colt .45 is a catridge, not a pistol. 8)

ExAgoradzo
May 5, 2012, 01:24 AM
Actually, the 'right' answer is Ruger Blackhawk convertible. (I don't know how to do the smiley waving its fingers at you ;) ).

fatcat4620
May 5, 2012, 01:38 AM
.....Old

awgrizzly
May 5, 2012, 01:40 AM
Us old farts have been calling the SAAs Colt 45's since the 1970s when they first started, so if you young pups now want to misapply it to the 1911 45ACP, you are just wannabees and no doubt jealous because you missed out on the true golden age of the gun. :neener:

(I voted SAA)

Rail Driver
May 5, 2012, 01:47 AM
Us old farts have been calling the SAAs Colt 45's since the 1970s when they first started, so if you young pups now want to misapply it to the 1911 45ACP, you are just wannabees and no doubt jealous because you missed out on the true golden age of the gun. :neener:

(I voted SAA)
I'm pretty sure SAA's were around well before the 70's - I stand by my vote of "malt liquor"

:neener:

allaroundhunter
May 5, 2012, 01:49 AM
I'm pretty sure SAA's were around well before the 70's - I stand by my vote of "malt liquor"

If we're talking age here....I'm not quite of age to get the "malt liquor" joke :o

Mauser lover
May 5, 2012, 01:57 AM
When I hear ".45 Colt" I take that to be a reference to .45 Long Colt, the cartridge.
When I hear "Colt .45" I take that to be a reference to a Colt Single Action Army.

Lost Sheep
May 5, 2012, 02:05 AM
I'm pretty sure SAA's were around well before the 70's - I stand by my vote of "malt liquor"

:neener:
1873

I'm a younger, almost exclusively semi-auto shooter but just because I reload ... Colt .45 is a catridge, not a pistol.
Yes, a cartridge, but you know what was meant.

But your point is well taken. Most people think of the S&W Model 19 when .357 Magnum is named, but the first commercially produced gun for that cartridge was the Model 27/28.

To answer the question in the original post. The first thing I think of is the question, "Which .45 do you mean, the Colt M1873 revolver or the Colt 1911 Semi-Auto?"

Lost Sheep

ApacheCoTodd
May 5, 2012, 02:59 AM
Even though I have never in my life drank it - given the phrase used, I go straight to Billy Dee Williams too... Smoooooth!

Now, ".45 Colt" - my mind goes .45 Long Colt and SAA types.

However, "45", "a .45", "I got a .45", "are we takin' .45s?" and I'm thinking 1911.

JRH6856
May 5, 2012, 03:12 AM
When I hear "Colt 45" I first think "Houston Astros" (originally named "Houston Colt .45s").

Dnaltrop
May 5, 2012, 04:36 AM
Another vote for Malt Liquor being the first to mind, and this from a Teetotaler.

When I hear .45 Colt I think revolver.

When I hear .45 ACP I think Thompson, THEN 1911.

Dunkelheit
May 5, 2012, 05:01 AM
I dont like rap songs but still think

Colt .45 - 1911
.45 Colt - SAA

230RN
May 5, 2012, 05:04 AM
SAA. I'm a product of too many western movies as a kid.

Just got an SAA-type, though it's in .357. And (eeek!) stainless. Real purty, but I felt like I was picking up a painted woman in a low bar.

http://arviel.loesch.org/SAA.JPG

Quiet
May 5, 2012, 05:08 AM
I voted other.
When I hear "Colt 45", I think of Billy Dee Williams and Colt 45 malt liquor.

Blind Dog Jake
May 5, 2012, 05:28 AM
^^^^^^^^
What Quiet said.

awgrizzly
May 6, 2012, 12:29 AM
I'm pretty sure SAA's were around well before the 70's - I stand by my vote of "malt liquor"

:neener:

OOps... wrong century. :uhoh: I could be persuaded on the malt liquor tho.

captain awesome
May 6, 2012, 12:47 AM
I found it irritating when I was trying to sell my SAA copy at a gun show, how almost every one, after I said ".45 Colt" in response to their question about the caliber, said "is this 45 long colt?" as if there was no such cartridge as the .45 Colt, and no one in the history of mankind would ever hear of not specifying "long colt".

I think of 1 thing when I here the word "Colt"; SAA, whether it has the 45 attached or not.

Lost Sheep
May 6, 2012, 04:54 AM
SAA. I'm a product of too many western movies as a kid.

Just got an SAA-type, though it's in .357. And (eeek!) stainless. Real purty, but I felt like I was picking up a painted woman in a low bar.

http://arviel.loesch.org/SAA.JPG
Well, at least it didn't have PEARL handles.

We all know what General George Patton said of pear-handles. "Only a New Orleans pimp would carry a pearl-handled gun."

(No offense meant by me to The Big Easy.)

Lost Sheep

BullRunBear
May 6, 2012, 05:44 AM
Voted for the 1911. I grew up in a navy town with a lot of WW II and Korean vet Marines and sailors, some retired, some still on active duty. A Colt 45 meant their 1911 sidearm. I asked a friend's dad, a Marine Captain, how come they didn't get confused with the guns used by Roy or Hopalong. He said those were .45 Colts, NOT Colt 45s. That distinction has stayed with me for almost 60 years.

Never thought of the malt liquor. Tried it when it first came out and didn't like it. Ballentine Ale (yeah, I'm showing my age) was a lot better. :)

Jeff

kozak6
May 6, 2012, 06:50 AM
My initial reaction is frustration and irritation since it's a vague term that could go either way, and because it's such a vague term, in modern times it seems to be used mainly by those who are so unknowledgeable about firearms that it doesn't actually even matter what they mean since they likely won't respond to their own thread.

So, after that it means malt liquor Colt .45 to kill the frustration.

Driftertank
May 6, 2012, 12:07 PM
Also tend to think of "Colt .45" as a SAA, or a "Fo'dy" of malt liquor.

1911's are only "Colt .45s" if they bear a horse logo.

Otherwise, 1911's are 1911's, and .45ACP is either that or ".45 Auto"

And when rappers reference a "Colt .45", i generally assume they are ignorant and only making a reference because it's a cliche that sounds good in their head. I've never seen imagery that suggests the average rapper can competently handle a gun, but that's a bit of digression.

Nushif
May 6, 2012, 12:30 PM
I've never seen imagery that suggests the average rapper can competently handle a gun, but that's a bit of digression.

I've found little correlation between occupation an gun handling skills, but you're probably dead on about a musician using gun lingo a song for effect rather than accuracy. To be honest though, the whole "Long Colt" does kinda bug me. My wife likes to shoot .45 Colt a lot and it's always annoying when she has to stand there and specify which bullet she would like to buy, because the salesman assumes it's for me and in reality I should be there instead of looking at the guns.

"Can I get a box of .45 Colt?"
"These?"
"No, the .45 Colt. The longer revolver variety."
"Are you sure?"
"Yes."
"You should probably confirm which ones your guns shoots first, because Ma'am, it's unsafe to shoo-"
"... I will be shooting this in my stainless lever action rifle at clay pigeons 100 yards away. Can you please just give me the ammunition?"

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
May 6, 2012, 02:08 PM
Nushif, that is funny in an annoying way! At least they are looking out for your safety and satisfaction, instead of just handing you anything, for example "oh you have a .32 S&W? here's some .32acp..."

I just saw this thread now for the first time, and find it excellently hilarious that malt liquor made it in the first response! Bahahaha,

I answered "other" because my actual honest answer is "all three!" I love and regularly shoot both "Colt .45s" and I also love Star Wars and beer... So before this thread, if you were to say "Colt .45" to me, I immediately think of a SAA, a 1911, and Lando Billy Dee Williams Calrisian with a fohty in each hand, hmmm... lol Now I have a ridiculous image in my head of Billy Dee with a 1911 in one hand, a SAA in the other... and an empty malt liquor bottle on the table! :eek: :what:
photoshop anyone!?!?! :D

I like many of these responses, and from now on will differentiate from the two as Colt .45 being 1911, and .45 Colt being a Peacemaker :)
Oh, and seriously, I woulda thunk that Colt .45 would taste WAY better than it does... :(

JRH6856
May 6, 2012, 02:43 PM
Now I have a ridiculous image in my head of Billy Dee with a 1911 in one hand, a SAA in the other... and an empty malt liquor bottle on the table!

He should be wearing a Houston Astros cap.

CZguy
May 6, 2012, 11:13 PM
Oh, and seriously, I woulda thunk that Colt .45 would taste WAY better than it does...

I had a very bad experience with the malt liquor 45 years ago. As I recall, it didn't taste good going in either direction.

I have had much better experiences with both .45 ACP and .45 LC. :)

pockets
May 7, 2012, 09:15 AM
I'm another one who thinks 'malt liquor' before 1911 or SA when I read or hear 'Colt 45'.
Can't stand the stuff, but advertizing sticks in the brain for decades.

.

Calhoun
May 7, 2012, 09:21 AM
"Works every time."

highlander 5
May 7, 2012, 09:30 AM
single action army or the old Warner Bros tv show.

bannockburn
May 7, 2012, 09:44 AM
First thing that came to mind was a Colt SAA in .45LC. When I think of a M1911, I would much more likely go with .45ACP.

mj246
May 7, 2012, 11:28 AM
I had to choose "other" because I see both sitting side by side when I think Colt 45. Use to think of SAA then met many people my own age who thought 1911 and now I think of both. They're both introduced by Colt and in 45 caliber

postalnut25
May 7, 2012, 07:49 PM
Colt= SAA
.45= 1911

Colt 45= 40oz. of bad malt liquor

shep854
May 7, 2012, 09:59 PM
I voted for the Peacemaker, since I grew up on the TV Westerns of the '50s and '60s.
Say ".45 Auto" and I think of the M1911, since I also watched the WWII shows that were also on back then.

CZguy
May 8, 2012, 12:53 AM
As an aside, what is "malt liquor" ?

Certaindeaf
May 8, 2012, 12:55 AM
Colt .45 is the SA revolver. .45 is the auto.

Lost Sheep
May 8, 2012, 02:31 AM
As an aside, what is "malt liquor" ?
Wikipedia is useful for all kinds of things.

Use Google and it will get you the link that starts out:

Malt liquor is a North American term referring to a type of beer with high alcohol content. In legal statutes, the term often includes any alcoholic beverage above or equal to 5% alcohol by volume made with malted barley.

It has been yeas since I drank any. I might buy some. I usually drank ordinary beer, or Red Mountain or Lancers (am I dating myself?) back in the '60s.

Lost Sheep

BBQLS1
May 8, 2012, 03:30 AM
.45 Colt - SAA
.45 ACP - 1911
Colt .45 - see below

http://coolwatersprods.com/images/colt45WEB.jpg

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
May 8, 2012, 05:36 AM
Not entirely sure if this is true or not, but this is a copy & paste from the Wikipedia on the beverage:

Listed on the Pabst website as a "Fun Fact", Colt 45 was named after running back #45 Jerry Hill of the 1963 Baltimore Colts and not the pistol or the revolver.[

shep854
May 8, 2012, 09:02 AM
"Listed on the Pabst website as a "Fun Fact", Colt 45 was named after running back #45 Jerry Hill of the 1963 Baltimore Colts and not the pistol or the revolver."--iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns

That makes sense; I never could see how a reference to a 'cowboy gun' (Western TV shows were overwhelmingly white-oriented) would resonate with black culture. A sports reference, though, would.

USAF_Vet
May 8, 2012, 10:50 PM
Had to vote other, just had Chris Tucker's voice in my head from Rush Hour.

metalart
May 9, 2012, 01:52 AM
Houston Astros!

Ryanxia
May 9, 2012, 12:24 PM
To me:

"Colt .45" = 1911
".45 Colt" = SAA / .45 Long Colt.

Of course, I often say 'Colt .45' when talking about my 1911 to NON gun friends because if I say 1911 they ask 'what's that?'

wally
May 9, 2012, 01:01 PM
+1
Houston Astros!

B!ngo
May 9, 2012, 10:08 PM
Malt Liquor - with Lou Rawls great voice in the background.

mgkdrgn
May 11, 2012, 06:17 PM
Well, it was SAA for me ... but I think because I own 3 firearms that use 45 Colt ... and none that use 45 ACP.

Mike J
May 11, 2012, 06:48 PM
In my opinion Rail Driver nailed it. My vote for other is really a vote for Malt Liquor.

Iramo94
May 11, 2012, 08:24 PM
Houston Astros!
I'm not the only one!

mesinge2
May 11, 2012, 08:56 PM
Funny when I saw the post on the board I thought SAA thats why I clicked on it. Guess I'm an old guy.
Ha, me too

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