I have decided on my next gun purchase! :)


May 5, 2012, 12:56 AM
Sorry I haven't been too active on THR lately, I've been quite busy. I finally found a job at a vineyard close by and work from 4:00 PM to 3:00 AM but I'm usually working on my projects between work. I thought I'd break the news that I'm saving up for a steel framed Remington New Model Army now! I know I threatened to get one several times and got distracted or needed to buy caps or got distracted by nice .22s or whatever, but I'm darn serious.

My question is where is the cheapest place to buy a steel framed .44 Remington, preferably Pietta? I know Cabelas isn't having their sale on them anymore, I just don't like the idea of shelling out $220 when they were selling for $175 not too long ago.

I just want a big powerful smoke wheel that I don't have to worry about overloading, with the reliability I've come to trust with my brass Remmy.

I also have been contemplating building a .22 LR conversion cylinder for my New Model Army, I'm trying to come up with a full-length barrel that will slip into the existing barrel from the muzzle giving me the full performance of a .22 LR in an 8" barrel, and the versatility of a drop in conversion cylinder. I can shoot .22s or .44s! :D

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May 5, 2012, 01:17 AM
Kirst has the .22 conversions for the Remmie, and Cabelas [as you noted] is a good source for the pistolas. Check SASS out online, the classifieds are members only to sell, but anyone can buy.

May 5, 2012, 01:19 AM

May 5, 2012, 08:05 AM
You'll be lucky to find a used one for $179 now. $229 is still a good price for new.

May 5, 2012, 12:01 PM
Thanks for the links guys! I guess Cabelas is cheaper than most other places. One of the main reasons I have decided on getting one now is because I don't want to look and see them for $250 later on, that would be a huge bummer.

May 5, 2012, 12:28 PM
Agree $229 isn't as good as that last sale but I'd bet that will never happen again, 229 isn't bad, should ship free and depending on where you live no taxes. I have Kirst conversion for mine and with trail boss its a fun shooter.

May 5, 2012, 12:35 PM
At our last 3-day shoot there were several for under 125.00. We have a
3 day shoot comming up in a week. I will look for you. If I find a good one I
will buy it for you. Don't buy anything til the 12th.

Oh wait a minute , I don't know if I can ship it to Ca.

May 5, 2012, 01:44 PM
Phil, you sir are the best! :) I can't believe they'd sell for $125, that's an awesome deal! From what I can tell shipping to CA is legal, it's just we can't have handgun ammo and stuff like that shipped due to the restrictions.

I have been going between the 1060 Colt Army and the Remington for a while now, I've pretty much decided that a Remmy would be the best way to go because I could mount some target sights on it and put a .45 Colt conversion cylinder in and have a nice big .45 single action. I am considering getting some stuff to plate it in nickle, that might look good although I'm not 100% sure I want to do that yet. Something about blued steel is just plain good looking to me. It kind of appeals to the classier shooter as opposed to just stainless steel, although nickle would be kind of classy I think if I were to polish it really well and perhaps engrave the pistol with some old west looking scroll pattern on the frame and maybe the cylinder.

My .22 LR converter is going to have a full length barrel, I'm still figuring out how I will make it so the .22 barrel slips into the .44 barrel and stays there. One possibility is that I might cut a piece of steel that will be threaded with a hole that will accept the .22 barrel so it could be inserted from the muzzle to the forcing cone and screwed in there, then the base pin will go through it and lock it in one place. I could also take advantage of having that piece of steel where it is and put some kind of extractor in place. Now that would be a fun gun for sure! I'm thinking for the extractor I could drill and tap a hole big enough for a small steel tube, thread the tube and secure it with some silver solder, then figure out some kind of spring and plunger type device with a little handle like a Colt SAA to kick out the brass.

Sorry if I'm rambling a little, I have quite a few good ideas for a converter. Boy I'd love a .22 LR converter, only problem is I want to have 8" barrel performance instead of a 2" barrel and the performance that gives with the factory made converters have.

Take care everybody!

May 5, 2012, 02:09 PM
Shipping to California is perfectly legal, Cabelas does it all the time, right to my front door!

May 5, 2012, 05:40 PM
Good point BHP FAN, I've gotten pretty much all my BP guns from the mail. I have never had the slightest problem with getting guns shipped to me.

You know what I don't get is why it's fine to have a New Model Army and a conversion cylinder (probably even in the same box) shipped right to your door, but you can't just order a box of 9mm ammo from what I understand. I don't know if they changed the law, I did get a couple boxes of .22 shorts in the mail about a month ago and nobody stopped me. IIRC .22 short is a pistol round, but I shot all of them out of my rifles. I mean I'm not talking 9mm or .45 ACP, those are definitely pistol rounds. But .22 short I guess is less of a pistol round than other stuff like that, you could shoot it out of a rifle for less noise.


May 5, 2012, 06:05 PM
I just got 9mm and .45 acp in the mail, you just need to send AIM, or Sportsman's Guide, or whomever a copy of your CADL, showing you're 21.

May 5, 2012, 07:29 PM
Well that is cool they got rid of the ban on mail order pistol ammo!

May 5, 2012, 07:32 PM
I just got 9mm and .45 acp in the mail, you just need to send AIM, or Sportsman's Guide, or whomever a copy of your CADL, showing you're 21.
That leaves Levi out!

May 5, 2012, 07:58 PM
Well, not actually. As I mentioned I ordered some .22 shorts from Gander Mountain, that's a pistol cartridge.

tom e gun
May 6, 2012, 01:04 AM
there never has been a ban on mailing handgun ammo to california, certain cities and counties in the state yes, but statewide no. i havent tryed ordering any since i moved but i think the county i am in now is one of the stupid ones that you cant ship ammo to (sacramento county). im not sure what others have the same policies.

May 6, 2012, 01:12 AM
Good luck,Levi. Prices have risen, as you mentioned, and I rarely see steel-framed Remmies going under $200.00, even used on the auction sites.
My advice would be to save up and spring for a good one, then keep it clean & oiled. Some day it will be worth more than you paid for it new.

May 6, 2012, 08:36 PM
That there is a good idea. I think I'll get a really nice Remington, and I mean really nice.

May 6, 2012, 09:40 PM
I seem to recall you saying that your next C&B revolver was going to be a Colt clone. :confused:

May 6, 2012, 09:56 PM
Even at 230 bucks the steel frame pietta 1858 revolvers are still a fair deal by all means. With that being said I'm sure glad I picked mine up for the slightly more tolerable sum of 179.00 a couple of months back when Cabelas ran all of their BP Revolvers on "closeout". All in all I find blackpowder firearms a great deal of fun and feel that they quickly pay for themselves as far as entertainment value goes. IMO while the Piettas aren't the top dogs in BP world I've found them to be more than adequate entry level pistols that have the potential for many years of service.

May 8, 2012, 07:52 PM
cabela's is still probably the best price around for Piettas. I've been keeping an eye out for a too-good-to-pass price on an 8" Remmy '58 to add to my 5 1/2 Sheriff. Kicked myself when the price jumped, but I think they still have sales on them, usually near the fall/winter season. Also, keep an eye on their Bargain Cave.

"found a job at a vineyard close by [/QUOTE]
Whoo hoo! My second favorite hobby, next to making holes in things downrange, is crafting adult beverages.
NO, not at the same time.

May 8, 2012, 09:59 PM
My first real job was at a Winery.

May 8, 2012, 11:02 PM
Sadly I'm not actually making the wine itself, I'm just in the packaging department. But it's a good job, I like staying up all night! It's kind of a staggered schedule but I like it!

In Sonoma we have something like 135 wineries, I mean if you look at it with Google Maps you can see just rows of grapes! We also have some really cool history here too, sadly no Civil War history I know of but it's still interesting. We do have a few cannons though, one is within walking distance of where I live and another is in the mission right off the town square.

May 9, 2012, 10:48 AM
Try Williams gunsight.michigan online blackpowder guns they have a cva for 159.00.......ASK FOR A LOWER PRICE AND YOU MAY GET IT SHIPPED FREE.

May 9, 2012, 10:50 AM
Williams will only ship black powder guns to licensed FFL dealers.

Levi, I PM'd you a link to a classified ad for a lightly used Pietta 1858 Remington package that includes a holster and accessories.

May 9, 2012, 12:31 PM
In any state except california?go figure?:(

May 9, 2012, 10:47 PM
williams will ship blackpowder guns to ordinary folks
In any state except california?go figure?:(

All of their muzzle loading listings state that to purchase a used gun, send them a copy of a dealer's FFL who will transfer the BP gun to you. That's for both BP rifles and pistols. They must not want any liability for the direct transfer of black powder guns either being shipped through the mail or out of state. That way they don't need to worry about knowing each state and local firearms law, or verifying the identity and age of the buyer.
When I bought a BP revolver from them in Connecticut, they required a copy of an FFL. That's just the way that they choose to do business.

May 11, 2012, 12:26 AM
And they said sure theyed mail a bp revolver without a ffl since the law in mi. changed in 2004 to follow the feds interprataion of antique firearms,and then they said except to california,because the laws were screwed up there.But they have 10 salesmen there and to many indians and not enough chiefs.michigan gunstores wont recognize the new law ,they say there covering thier behinds,I say they are conspiring to deprive my rights.

May 11, 2012, 01:57 AM
I got my last 58 from Cabelas for 179.oo the next thing I knew the price went up. I'm keeping an eye on them cauce if they ever go on sell again I want the 12" model. Then I'll have one of each.


May 11, 2012, 04:32 PM
I will be going to the 3-day shoot tommorrow. Will let you know tommorrow
night late, if I found anything.

May 11, 2012, 10:56 PM
Thank you so much Phil! You're a true friend!

May 13, 2012, 09:44 AM
Well it's Sunday morning and I'm tired. Didn't get home last night til midnight.
Sat around the campfire too long talking to the boys. The only thing I saw
worth while was a "Taylors" Rem.with the factory 45 Colt converson cylinder
in it with loading gate. Real nice high polish and blue job. New. Will post picture later tonight when we get back. I think the guy is asking too much.
He wants 475.00 It is a very nice pistol tho. Wife was a smokin. She shot
two 25 yd matches one was a timed fire with a score of 96 on both. She then shot a 82 at 50 yds. Total of 274 for the agg. This is a National Territorial Shoot. The top ten in each agg. will be posted at the end of the year. I will predict here on record she will be no. 1. Well got to get going.
Will be another long day at the shoot. I'm glad I don't do this for a living.

May 13, 2012, 08:14 PM
Here is the only pistol I saw worth anything. Guy was asking 475.00. That's
too high. It was pretty tho..


May 13, 2012, 08:59 PM
That definitely is very pretty! I like .45's!

May 14, 2012, 11:37 AM
Sorry I couldn't find you a pistol. There were lots at the shoot in Oct. We
have another 3-day shoot comming up the second weekend in June. It's
the Missouri State Shoot. Always lots of guns for sale there. Oh update on
the shoot. The wife won the Women's Pistol and the Men's also. She shot
six matches and won 1st in all of them. My eye is still keeping me from shooting right now. Lucky for her eh? Ha! that's a good one.

May 14, 2012, 10:19 PM
It's alright! I'm sure somebody will bring a Remmy to the three day shoot! :) Heck, I may start going to the city and checking pawn shops, they might have one.

Take care!

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