Ruger LCR sights
JerryC
May 5, 2012, 11:43 PM
The sights that come with it aren't very visible. ANyone have any thoughts on which ones are best (tritium, fiber optic or just a dab of glow paint on existing sight)?
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ScottieG59
May 6, 2012, 01:19 AM
My LCR came with a tritium front site and it work very well. I also added a Crimson Trace LaserGrip made for the LCR. This is also a good addition.
One issue may be installing the new front sight. You may have to drill a hole in the new sight, and the hole has to be the right size and position. It is easy to screw that part up.
Doghandler
May 6, 2012, 01:17 PM
I put an XS dot sight on my LCR. The standard dot is what is available for the LCR and it does fit into the rear notch and appears to be more or less the same width as the stock front ramp sight. I've never tested it beyond 15 paces but it seems to work pretty good out to that distance at least. The top half of the dot does protrude above the rear notch but the center focus is more or less even with the top of the rear notch. The directions say to use the top of the dot for longer ranges but I haven't gone there yet. In my scheme this little revolver is for close encounters.
Shoot the dot. I like it!
Viper225
May 6, 2012, 11:06 PM
I put a XS 24/7 Tritium on my LCR-357.
I put a Green Fiber Optic Hi Viz sight on my LCR-22.
NOTE: The LCR-22 front sight is .138 shorter than the LCR-38 & LCR-357. Knowing this I still changed the front sight out. This did not turn out to be a big issue. The Green Fiber Optic sight is working out fine, and is very visible.
I just hold a course sight. I shot the LCR-22 in BUG Division at our Defensive Pistol Match Saturday. I kept almost all rounds in the 0 Score Rings. I blew a couple shots both runs being in a hurry.
Both sights are Top Notch. No issues with either of them. For Night CCW the 24/7 is a great choice. If you need to see the sights in the day time the Hi Viz is a good choice.
Bob
spotch
May 7, 2012, 09:51 PM
I was actually wondering how the 22 lcr would do with one of the aftermarket sights... Good to know the hiviz Works well. Although I'd probably be tempted to try the xs sight on it, just to match my 357.
Doghandler
May 8, 2012, 12:36 AM
A course sight. We don't hear much of this talk these days.
spotch
May 8, 2012, 11:38 AM
A course sight. We don't here much of this talk these days.
I don't even know what it means :(
/newb
Doghandler
May 11, 2012, 12:15 AM
My Uncle used to make us wait until the sun was behind the clouds so that, "the sights wouldn't be so course." It's easier these days with polarized sunglasses.
My understanding of the course sight is using the sights as a guide and not a crutch. The placement of the bullet will be best estimated by body mechanics, familiarity to the gun, and feedback from assessment of targets of varying sizes shapes and distances, and vectors.
I'm thinking the zero ring in bug division isn't exactly teeny tiny from very far away.
Water-Man
May 11, 2012, 12:30 AM
I purchased mine with XS sights from the factory.
Sam1911
May 11, 2012, 08:06 AM
My Uncle used to make us wait until the sun was behind the clouds so that, "the sights wouldn't be so course." It's easier these days with polarized sunglasses.
That would be a matter of reducing glare so you can see the sights more clearly. This is why a lot of bullseye-type target shooters soot-blacken their sights so the sun can't glint off of them and make them look indistinct.
Which is a completely separate matter from everything else you were saying. --->
My understanding of the course sight is using the sights as a guide and not a crutch. The placement of the bullet will be best estimated by body mechanics, familiarity to the gun, and feedback from assessment of targets of varying sizes shapes and distances, and vectors.
This sounds like you're describing the "flash sight picture" concept. In defensive type pistol shooting you can teach yourself to react to targets at different distances at an optimal maximum speed. At extremely close range, you may shoot from retention, or point shoot, with no use of the sights at all, and still put shots where you intend.
If the conditions allow you to bring the gun up into your visual range, you may use the silhouette of the gun against the target to very roughly align the gun with the target. Again, at close range, all you have to do is see the back of the gun superimposed on the target, and your shots will land in the center-of-mass.
A little farther out still, and taking a fraction of a second longer, you may see the front sight itself, not just the silhouette of the gun, on the target and you'll know your shots will be right on target out to 5, 7, maybe 10 yards. This is where the "flash sight picture" falls into the specturm. You're seeing that front sight for something a little less than 0.1 sec as you break the shot.
Given even more distance, and more time to make the shot, the rear sight comes into play.
The more time you have to make the shot, and the greater the distance (requiring greater accuracy) the more you "dress" the sights before breaking the shot. With practice it becomes an effortless, seamless process.
Moving from coarse to fine sight alignment.
I'm thinking the zero ring in bug division isn't exactly teeny tiny from very far away. In BUG gun (at least in IDPA) the target is exactly the same as in all the standard divisions.
Doghandler
May 12, 2012, 03:53 AM
I kill running deer with a course sight. I call it swing pow.
Haywood
May 12, 2012, 03:47 PM
When I first got my LCR357 I painted the Front Sight with White Paint then sealed it with Glow in the dark Nail Polish. After about a year I installed the XS Sight that I bought direct from Ruger. It is easy to see and bright at night. The painted sight worked O.K. if you don't want to spend $60.
Doghandler
May 13, 2012, 08:32 PM
Whatever sights you come to know on the LCR or any snubby for that matter - that's the least of your worries. Snubbie work is about hand eye and trigger finger coordination and most importantly, peripheral vision. When the clowns show starts you do not want to trip over your sights.
Flint Ridge
May 13, 2012, 11:23 PM
My very early LCR .357 is my primary carry.
Before
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab348/Flint_Ridge/Ruger%20LCR/LCRSights003.jpg
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab348/Flint_Ridge/Ruger%20LCR/LCRsights004.jpg
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab348/Flint_Ridge/Ruger%20LCR/LCRsights008.jpg
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab348/Flint_Ridge/Ruger%20LCR/LCRsights013.jpg
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab348/Flint_Ridge/Ruger%20LCR/LCRsights023.jpg
TennJed
May 14, 2012, 11:17 PM
Flint Ridge, were you able to install them yourself? How much did it run you?
spotch
May 15, 2012, 12:19 AM
fwiw, I had a local gunsmith put the night sight on my lcr 357, he charged 25+tax.
flhtcuibyhd
May 15, 2012, 07:40 PM
I'm not a gunsmith by any sense of the term, but installing the XS sights is easy. I have done it on two revolvers including my LCR 357. The pictures above do not really show how much better the XS sight is compared to the stock setup. It makes a world of difference.
Flint Ridge
May 16, 2012, 08:15 PM
I did them myself. It comes with a tiny and somewhat flimsy punch. Easy to do and yes make a huge difference that you can't see against a white background shot above.
Seems like it was under $60 but that was over a year ago I think...
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab348/Flint_Ridge/Ruger%20LCR/LCRsights005.jpg
dacotah
May 16, 2012, 08:30 PM
Flint Ridge, were you able to install them yourself? How much did it run you?
I also picked up the XS sight. Pretty easy to install myself (and I am definitely not a gunsmith).
Viper225
May 16, 2012, 11:49 PM
LCR-22 Sight Issues.
I mentioned a Coarse Sight above.
With the LCR-22 sight being shorter than the LCR-38 & LCR-357. When you put the taller Hi Viz sight for the Center Fire LCR's on the 22 it will shoot LOW with a propper Text Book sight picture. I am correcting for this by elevating the Front Fiber Optic sight up out of the bottom of the U Notch rear sight. I am pretty much setting the Fiber Optic Dot Half Way out of the U Notch, or a little more.
This is working just fine for me. I primarily use my LCR-22 as an Economy Practice/Training handgun.
If you install a Fiber Optic front sight on your LCR-22, I think the ability to see the front sight will out weigh the need to adjust your sight picture.
I installed the XS sight on my LCR-357 and the Hi Viz Fiber Optic sight on my LCR-22 with no issues.
Bob
TennJed
May 17, 2012, 02:58 AM
HiViz makes one that is about $35. I assume they are installed the same way, but can anyone confirm that?
How is the Quality of HiViz?
EDIT, I somehow missed post 4. Sorry.
spotch
May 20, 2012, 04:50 PM
Bob, isn't the sight picture you use for your hiviz 22lr basically the same one that xs recommends for the tritium front sight for the 38/357 (i.e. with the front sight cradled by the rear sight but popping almost half out)? Sounds like the sight picture you're using on the 22lr lcr w/ hiviz is similar to the xs 357 sight picture, but correct me if I'm wrong. (if so it sounds like that's awful convenient for training purposes...)
Viper225
May 21, 2012, 02:43 AM
Pretty much. The 24/7 front sight is up out of the back notch also.
The Hi Viz installs about the same as the 24/7 sight. Basicly drive the sight retainer pin out, lift the factory sight off the post. Install the new sight on the post. While holding it down fully drive in the new pin.
On the 24/7 I believe it came with some Loc Tite to use also.
The quality of the Hi Viz front sight seems to be just fine. It is better than I expected it to be by a fair amount. Looks like they are making a much better product that they did a few years ago.
Bob
spotch
May 21, 2012, 10:58 AM
That sounds great... and if that's the case, I don't feel bad about buying a hiviz front for my lcr22 to help train with my lcr 357 with the XS sight. If the sight pictures are fairly close that should just make it an even better training tool than having an XS on one and having the stock ramp on the other, I would think.
spotch
May 21, 2012, 07:54 PM
FYI, I emailed hiviz on a whim to see if they were releasing a sight that just fits the 22lr LCR, they said "are not planning to make a sight for the 22 lr at this time".
So regular hiviz w/ a modified sight picture it is! :)
45crittergitter
June 2, 2012, 04:57 PM
According to Bo at XS, the earlier LCRs had front sight mounting posts with varying crosspin hole locations, so that they couldn't make a standard one-sight-fits all LCR sight. So, they made one without a pin hole and had you glue it on with epoxy. Not so good after the tritium dims.
I got one of those and drilled a hole to match my gun and installed it with the original roll pin and no epoxy and it came out great. But it is a real challenge to get the hole right, and you only get one chance at it. A 'smith could certainly do that for you, and I'd recommend that route if you have such a gun.
Bo says that now Ruger has standardized the post/hole location so they are making pin-on sights that fit current guns.
7thGenAustinite
June 2, 2012, 10:59 PM
What serial number range would be considered early? My lcr is from the first year of production
45crittergitter
July 1, 2012, 05:26 PM
I don't know but suspect you're in the early group.
Hoppes Love Potion
July 2, 2012, 11:05 AM
On my LCR-22 I put some orange-red glow paint on the rear sights and covered the top half of the stepped portion of the front sight in bright green glow paint.
It works well. I can see the sights clearly against both a dark background and a light one. It's easy to make elevation adjustments for different ammo or different distances.
DocRx
July 3, 2012, 12:53 PM
Purchased and installed the XS Big Dot Sight (my Ruger KLCR has a "pin" holding the sight on) myself in less than 20 mins. I just love it. Set the dot directly over the target, and it hits home consistently. Go to YouTube and bring up the demo vids, they actually do work like they say.
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