Colt commander? OR Sig Carry?


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12guagecody
May 6, 2012, 02:06 PM
i have an opportunity to get a colt combat commander for 600 dollars, its not in perfect shape, but decent. my dilemma is that i could get the colt, get a trigger, sights, grips, bobtail it and have it coated black and be at about the same cost as a new sig carry nitron....would i just be better off starting with the sig? help me out guys

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NMGonzo
May 6, 2012, 02:24 PM
sig

yittidee
May 6, 2012, 02:50 PM
Sig. You'll love it.

Enachos
May 6, 2012, 04:37 PM
Sig

Manson
May 6, 2012, 05:28 PM
I own both. Go Sig.

ACP230
May 6, 2012, 05:29 PM
I vote Commander.
Don't like the feel of any of the larger SIGs I've handled.

Commander also has soul.

CharlieDeltaJuliet
May 6, 2012, 06:15 PM
Sig, I also own both. I love my 1911's but my Sig hard to beat for my carry gun.

TonyAngel
May 6, 2012, 09:57 PM
Since you used the phrase, "just starting off," I'll assume that you are looking for your first carry gun.

I believe that a carry gun is something that you should know intimately. What this means to me is that all functions that would need to be performed with the handgun should be a matter of reflex rather than an action requiring thought.

I once read a quote someplace that went something like...."professionals don't practice until they get it right, they practice until they can't get it wrong." I think that this statement articulates what I'm trying to say pretty well.

With this being said, I'd vote for the Sig. The 1911 is just going to take more training/practice and a longer time to become proficient with.

Micro
May 6, 2012, 10:47 PM
I own both, too. Sig all the way. Better sights. Way better trigger. Checked front strap. Checkered steel mainspring housing. 500+ rounds so far with zero malfunctions. Got mine new for $860 (versus $900 for a bare bones blued Colt Commander). Sig has their act together with their current 1911s. Some of the best out there today.

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/RowlandParks/My%20Guns/1911_6.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l590/RowlandParks/My%20Guns/1911_3.jpg

12guagecody
May 6, 2012, 11:05 PM
I currently carry a p229 in .40 and I have a full size sig tac ops 1911, just havent had any personal experience with the commander sized sig

allaroundhunter
May 6, 2012, 11:26 PM
Start with the Sig.....but you will have both eventually

TonyAngel
May 7, 2012, 12:28 AM
Sorry, I misunderstood the post. Due to a bad experience with a Sig 1911 long ago, I don't even register 1911 when someone says Sig. I thought you were considering a 220 or something.

el Godfather
May 7, 2012, 01:04 AM
I have handled both. Colt has slimmer profile, but if thats not one of the prime criteria then I recommend Sig. The only reason I didnt buy Sig was because I went with DW Vbob.

VINTAGE-SLOTCARS
May 7, 2012, 01:22 AM
Sig Carry

I have buth also,,This is my primary ccw now. It just fits my hand better than the colt

Nappers
May 7, 2012, 09:58 AM
Both are good guns.

See if somehow you can shoot them. Some ranges lets you rent guns to try out.....

I carry my Colt Commander (slightly modified, 4lb trigger, wrap around grip, polished feed ramp) when I'm off duty, IWB holster from Blackhawk and never looked back. Duty gun is the XD .40.

bannockburn
May 7, 2012, 11:05 AM
While I think the used Colt Combat Commander is a better buy and could be customized for a lot less, if what you really want is something that already has all of the options you want built into it, then I would say go with the SIG Carry Nitron.

Skylerbone
May 7, 2012, 11:49 AM
While I can't speak to your level of comfort with the platform I'm a bit concerned about an apples to oranges comparison. A bobtail changes more than just the appearance so debating how to bring the cost of a used Colt up to the price of a new Sig isn't the best of strategies. You really need to evaluate which works best for your needs and be reliable.

If it were me and the Colt wasn't previously butchered I'd opt for it and a trip to the pistolsmith for $400 in reliability work. Of course not everyone has a local option for 1911 work so again, you must evaluate your circumstances.

Remember too, there are other Commander size and CCO models available in close proximity to your price range. Good luck.

Creature
May 7, 2012, 11:59 AM
If it is an orginal configuration Commander, I would choose that...it is much more comfortable to carry than the Sig and can be easily be made to function 100% reliably. I am not a fan of beaver tail grips for concealed carry.

smalls
May 7, 2012, 12:43 PM
Creature, both of them will come with a beaver tail.

I vote Sig.

allaroundhunter
May 7, 2012, 12:47 PM
Creature, both of them will come with a beaver tail.

I think he means the extended beavertail which will only come on the Sig.

CharlieDeltaJuliet
May 7, 2012, 01:00 PM
I love mine. I own a few 1911's and the fit and finish is great.
http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff464/ChadJohnson1976/IMG_5443.jpg

12guagecody
May 7, 2012, 06:05 PM
an extended beavertail has already been installed on the colt, very poorly installed so that would need to be reworked

Creature
May 7, 2012, 06:46 PM
An original configuration Colt Commander...what beavertail?

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/1950_Commander_in_box_450.jpg

Buy the Colt. They are legendary for a good reason.

skt239
May 7, 2012, 07:26 PM
I vote Commander.
Don't like the feel of any of the larger SIGs I've handled.

Commander also has soul.

But the Sig has such a great sense of humor ;)

For me it would really depend on the condition of the Colt. All the work your talking about doing can be expensive depending on who does it.

Just for laughs, take a look at Dan Wesson.

FMF Doc
May 7, 2012, 10:02 PM
Sig...every day and Twice on Sunday. If I could afford them, I wouldn't carry anything else. They are the Audi of guns: finely crafted in Germany, pricey, but you get what you pay for. And unlike 1911s you don't get a $3000 target pistol you are afraid to drop or a cheep GI model that nees $1000s in "upgrades" A Sig is a shooter right out of the box. There is a reason the SEALs carry Sigs...just sayin.

Auto426
May 7, 2012, 10:37 PM
I'm always wary of guns that have been customized by previous owners. There are way to many kitchen table gunsmiths out there who's dremels have turned very nice guns into expensive paperweights.

If you want a Colt, take a look at a new XSE Commander. If not, then the Sig would be the way to go. I personally don't care for the odd slide profile or the external extractor, but they do build some nice guns.

They are the Audi of guns: finely crafted in Germany, pricey, but you get what you pay for. And unlike 1911s you don't get a $3000 target pistol you are afraid to drop or a cheep GI model that nees $1000s in "upgrades" A Sig is a shooter right out of the box. There is a reason the SEALs carry Sigs...just sayin.

I think you need to re-read the OP, because he's considering a Sig 1911, not a P Series. Even then, both Sig's 1911's and almost all of the P Series guns sold here today are made in the U.S.

sleepyone
May 8, 2012, 12:13 AM
Colt

Skylerbone
May 8, 2012, 12:14 AM
Didn't know we ceded Exeter, New Hampshire to Germany. The Sig 1911s are made here with parts mainly produced here.

There's still that $300 or so difference in price to overcome...or you could compare the Sig to a new Colt for even money.

FMF Doc
May 8, 2012, 01:07 AM
i have an opportunity to get a colt combat commander for 600 dollars, its not in perfect shape, but decent. my dilemma is that i could get the colt, get a trigger, sights, grips, bobtail it and have it coated black and be at about the same cost as a new sig carry nitron....would i just be better off starting with the sig? help me out guys

"sig carry nitron" (http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p220-carry-sas-gen-2-nitron.aspx)

Now I could be mistakened, but I don't see anywhere that the OP mentioned a Sig 1911, just a sig carry nitron...and there is a Sig P220 Carry Nitron. .45ACP does not end at the 1911. Many glocks are built at the plant in GA but we still call then "Autrian Perfection." No matter where they are put together, it is still a "German" pistol.

Auto426
May 8, 2012, 02:23 AM
"sig carry nitron"

Now I could be mistakened, but I don't see anywhere that the OP mentioned a Sig 1911, just a sig carry nitron...and there is a Sig P220 Carry Nitron. .45ACP does not end at the 1911. Many glocks are built at the plant in GA but we still call then "Autrian Perfection." No matter where they are put together, it is still a "German" pistol.

Sig Carry Nitron (http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/1911-carry-nitron.aspx).

Since his other option is a Colt Commander, the gun the Sig "Carry" is based of, I'm 90% certain that he's comparing two different 1911's.

Also, there's a difference between saying that a gun is finely crafted in Germany and saying that it's a German gun. The P series has both German and Swiss heritage, but almost all of the new ones we buy here in the U.S. are manufactured in New Hampshire.

MICHAEL T
May 8, 2012, 09:58 PM
Colt Commander if you can find a LTW one even better. A 9mm commander is a real nice carry pistol

skt239
May 9, 2012, 03:11 PM
Creature,

Very nice Colt. If there is one thing I hate it's a beaver tail. There are not many choices for beaver tail-less 1911 these days, in fact they seem to get bigger with each new model.

gym
May 10, 2012, 12:36 AM
Colt

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