Lady finds loaded revolver in yard sale item


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Yoda
May 6, 2012, 07:26 PM
What strikes me is how the lady is crying in horror and fear of the handgun that she just discovered, and how the newsmen taking the photos of the gun are doing some really unsafe things to avoid touching it.

Such are the expected results of fear plus ignorance.

Here's the link. Be sure to watch the video.
http://tristatehomepage.com/fulltext-news?nxd_id=510382


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SleazyRider
May 6, 2012, 07:32 PM
Amazing how a matter of such minor significance brings this woman to tears----on national television yet! I suspect that she is mentally unstable.

neviander
May 6, 2012, 07:33 PM
It's hilarious how a lot of people treat guns like poisonous tree frogs that spit fire.

rcmodel
May 6, 2012, 07:37 PM
Dang!

I should be so lucky!

Already has a Tyler T-Grip on it too!!

Double dang!

rc

Yoda
May 6, 2012, 07:37 PM
She was conditioned by something, media, life experience, SOMETHING, to react with so much emotion. I think it's tragic.

And the media, taking photos while the gun was being handled in such an unsafe manner.... doesn't ANYONE know anything anymore?

I also got the impression that someone called the media before they called the police.... bizzare, except that I'm not sure I spelled "bizarre" correctly. WTH.

- - - Yoda

sawdeanz
May 6, 2012, 07:40 PM
They could, u know,just unload it...

rcmodel
May 6, 2012, 07:42 PM
Not if they keep dangling it on an eye liner pencil like a dead snake or something.
Or whatever that thing is?

rc

jcwit
May 6, 2012, 07:50 PM
She keeps saying that something "could" have happened, well maybe so, but then something "could" have happened driving to and from the sale. Life is full of uncertainties.

beatledog7
May 6, 2012, 07:56 PM
Even a person who hates guns (or snakes) will lose his or her fear of them given familiarity. Childhood education about how to be safe around firearms would have solved the whole issue.

wrs840
May 6, 2012, 08:09 PM
She's, helpless, ugly.

My laptop case always contains a loaded 5904 (in a conveniently placed internal pocket that it was fortuitously designed to have)... ...Except when it leaves my custody.

Somebody made a big oops!

rcmodel
May 6, 2012, 08:12 PM
You should tie a safety orange ribbon to the trigger guard so they have something to pick it up and drop it on the concrete with!

rc

25cschaefer
May 6, 2012, 08:22 PM
I went to this yard sale...sniff, sniff, and there was this box, and it was full of knives... waaa, they were sharp too. What if one had thrown itself through my forehead? booohooohoo.

rcmodel
May 6, 2012, 08:33 PM
I went to this church sale once, and all the boxes were full of Brown Recluse spiders and egg nests!!
AND cockroaches too!!!!

Ye-Haw!
You got ourselves a real infestation of deadly spiders and La Cucaracha if you take that bad boy home and throw in on top of the junk in the back bedroom without looking in it!

IMO From: A former Kansas Hunter Safety Instructor, me.
If gun safety were allowed to be taught in public schools, none of this boo-hoo on youtube BS would happen because the general public would at least not be terrified of an inert loaded firearm.

rc

Tipro
May 6, 2012, 08:49 PM
13 year old Grandson: "Can I see the gun?"
Grandma: "OMG NOO!!! Don't you know those things can kill you? They're extremely dangerous. Now let me smoke this cigarette while I think about what to do."

I'm not against smoking mind you, but their idiocy is surprising. Wait, no it's not.

Skribs
May 6, 2012, 08:50 PM
I agree with RC, gun safety should be taught to everyone. For little kids, the Eddie Eagle, and for those who are smart enough (so for some people: never) how to safely handle a gun, even if you never shoot one.

That said, I agree with the lady in the story. While I am not scared of loaded guns, I think if you're selling something with a loaded gun in it, the buyer should be made aware. It is entirely possible that someone forgot that it was in the bag or that the gun was used in a crime and this was a way of dumping it. If I had bought the laptop bag, I'd like to find out and maybe have it find its way home.

As to the media...pick it up by the grip and keep your finger out of the trigger guard! Why are you touching a gun if you don't know what you're doing? Maybe we should all give the media the Eddie Eagle program. If you see a gun, find someone who's doodads have descended to deal with it.

Vern Humphrey
May 6, 2012, 08:51 PM
Just goes to show you, there is no cure for stupid.

CSA 357
May 6, 2012, 09:01 PM
i need to go to more yard sales!

Swing
May 6, 2012, 09:05 PM
i need to go to more yard sales!

LOL!

lloveless
May 6, 2012, 09:05 PM
Sounds like a set up. Why was the media there?
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Liberty1776
May 6, 2012, 09:06 PM
Some people have all the luck - but she makes me want to :barf:

cyclopsshooter
May 6, 2012, 09:18 PM
Dang!

I should be so lucky!

Already has a Tyler T-Grip on it too!!

Double dang!

rc nailed it!

every person in that video is an idiot drama monger

Lost Sheep
May 6, 2012, 09:24 PM
Amazing how a matter of such minor significance brings this woman to tears----on national television yet! I suspect that she is mentally unstable.
The clinical term is "hoplophobia".

Sad how many people are afflicted by this epidemic and sadder still that our medical community seem uninterested in encouraging a cure.

Fortunately, there is an effective treatment. Take a non-gunner to a shooting range.

Lost Sheep

foghornl
May 6, 2012, 09:25 PM
and all the boxes were full of Brown Recluse spiders and egg nests!!
AND cockroaches too!!!!


That is what I usually get at yard/rummage/estate sales .. :( :cuss: :banghead:

Was that a Mdl 10 or 15 Smith w/a Tyler T-grip ? (Unlimited mutterings and cursings.....

Deltaboy
May 6, 2012, 09:25 PM
She sounds and a Classic Liberal who had never see a gun in person except on the side of an LEO.

firesky101
May 6, 2012, 09:30 PM
Two things...

1. Why can't I find a revolver in things I buy?

2. I had never seen someone recoil in fear of guns until the other day. We are watching a friends cats:barf: due to an unfortunate housing situation. She comes over to see them, and I am cleaning my wifes revolver. She literally jumped back when she saw it. Well after a while of telling her how much fun target shooting is, she said she might come try it.:D It is a start, gotta convert them all.

al123
May 6, 2012, 09:39 PM
However, having mention children's safety multiple times, the drama queen picks up the revolver in a stupid, unsafe manner. Kids - don't do this! :eek:

I'm not saying the seller doesn't have any fault, but generally in yard sales where generally all purchases are final, the buyer should, uhh, actually check out what they're buying. Ya know, not everything is some other person's responsibility.

I know of people like this. You stay away from them as much as possible.

Serenity
May 6, 2012, 09:46 PM
If a person has not been raised around guns, or handled guns, and has only been exposed to information about guns in popular culture--where they are tools of destruction--or in news reports of violence, it seems to me that it is RATIONAL to fear them.

Try walking a mile in another's shoes before you judge, please.

blarby
May 6, 2012, 09:50 PM
She's, helpless, ugly, and therefore a liberal.

Huh ?

BCRider
May 6, 2012, 09:54 PM
Either a setup or a drama queen. Who else would call the media before calling the police? Does that new program pay out for good stories such as this?

Nushif
May 6, 2012, 09:56 PM
I think there is a lot more to this story than we're seeing.

We have an utterly bizzare response, coupled with media coverage, coupled with a distinct lack of police ... sounds fishy.

wrs840
May 6, 2012, 10:09 PM
She's, helpless, ugly, and therefore a liberal.
Huh ?

OK, that was unfair of me.

She's blubbering like she just witnessed the south-tower collapse, so I assumed she's helpless.

(deleted)

...And to be more precise, she's a liberal because she thinks everyone else is so stupid that they won't notice the obviously-staged "horror" of her fishing a revolver out of the bag with a pen as if she's removed the "loaded" gun (how'd they know?) for the first time.

How's that?

NMGonzo
May 6, 2012, 10:26 PM
Free ammo with it and people complain.

mnrivrat
May 6, 2012, 10:27 PM
WOW !

And thats top news ??

What tragedy will happen next ? Someone will find a pointy sissors at one of these evil garage sales, and we all know how dangerous they can be. (don't run !) I say we should shut down these type sales for the good of the public.

You still can't fix stupid or the media - did I just repeat myself ?

Snowdog
May 6, 2012, 10:28 PM
I was thinking perhaps it was a model 36, but only because I really want one.

I was sobbing when I saw that video too... I should have been at that yard sale on Kentucky Avenue!

Kiln
May 6, 2012, 10:31 PM
Lady: OMG it almost killed me.

Guy who knows anything about firearms: *rolls eyes*

goon
May 6, 2012, 10:49 PM
I can see how it might be a bit disconcerting but if you want to keep it away from "the children," don't say anything about it and lock it in the car until the police arrive. Or take the computer case into a gun store and ask one of the employees for help.
This isn't rocket science people.

newfalguy101
May 6, 2012, 10:59 PM
First thing I thought was, "Who buys a laptop bag from a garbage sale without LOOKING inside it first..........

doesnt smell right to me

dollar to donuts she has something against the Christian Life Center................course its not like the news crew will ever look into THAT side ofthe "story"

Leanwolf
May 6, 2012, 11:07 PM
NUSHIF - "I think there is a lot more to this story than we're seeing."

So do I. Phony crying, a teeeveee camera and reporter called to conveniently be there, and the two pap dispensing teeeveee chicks ohhh-soooo-seriously reporting it as if there'd been a mass shooting at the local deli ....

Nah, it doesn't pass the smell test.

L.W.

Swichblade
May 6, 2012, 11:08 PM
An S&W revolver and a laptop case for 5 bucks? I wish I could find a deal like that at a garage sale.

Tommygunn
May 6, 2012, 11:20 PM
What over the top histrionics. Atleast the older lady was reasonably calm.
Who would expect to find a revolver in a computer case?
Looked like a nice S&W revolver, too.

Skribs
May 6, 2012, 11:26 PM
Who would expect to find a revolver in a computer case?

Before I got a range bag, I used a laptop case.

Tommygunn
May 6, 2012, 11:28 PM
Before I got a range bag, I used a laptop case.
Maybe I should look in some gun cases --- I might find a laptop.:neener:
Yeah I suppose anything is possible. ;)

NOLAEMT
May 6, 2012, 11:58 PM
You guys are clearly missing the point here.

WE NEED TO OUTLAW GARAGE SALES!!!!

They are obviously full of dangerous guns just waiting to hurt people... Lurking inside innocent looking laptop cases, how dare they! If we outlaw garage sales then we can finally be safe.

shiftyer1
May 7, 2012, 12:21 AM
About six months ago my son found a gun in a long abandoned campsite. I didn't know I should call the news.

Ya'll should have let me know, oh well to late now.....guess i'll just never get my 5 minutes of fame:(

I don't understand why this is news worthy. Is it the actual gun used to kill jfk from the grassy knoll?

I really can't understand folks most times.

Kiln
May 7, 2012, 12:27 AM
Why are the Kardashians on TV? There's no real answer to these questions, they simply are.

FIVETWOSEVEN
May 7, 2012, 12:40 AM
Was that a Mdl 10 or 15 Smith w/a Tyler T-grip ? (Unlimited mutterings and cursings.....

Looks to me like a Model 36. It was the special edition random terminator model so I understand her fear. Even looking at that thing wrong would cause it to shoot everyone in the room.

Skribs
May 7, 2012, 01:58 AM
A lot of people here are being flippant about this, but a loaded gun at a garage sale IS a hazard. Think about it - random kids, many of whom have parents who don't want to tell them guns exist (so they have no idea what to do when they see a real one), might find it in the bag. I'm not an anti, but it is irresponsible to have one loaded and unattended in a bag at a garage sale that nobody knows about. I'm not promoting a policy change or anything, but if this story is true, then there's one knucklehead out there that needs to pay attention.

25cschaefer
May 7, 2012, 02:06 AM
I don't think a lot of people are being flippant about the situation but rather, her reaction and or highlighting the difference in reaction a "gun person" would have had. I have seen people less torn up on the news about a tornado ripping their house off of the foundation.

MachIVshooter
May 7, 2012, 02:11 AM
Ya, I'd definitely be thinking "score!"

If she were smart, she'd have taken this unwated gun and ended up being paid $150 or $200 for her purchase. But she's obviously missing more than a few megabytes in her CPU.

She says she hopes sellers will be more careful, and that bargain hunters will take a second look before they buy

Ya think? Who doesn't look inside a used bag before they buy it? Especially a 12 ounce laptop bag that is weighing in at 2 pounds.

This woman needs to quit wasting our oxygen.

kingkeoni
May 7, 2012, 02:19 AM
It would bring me to tears too.



Tears of joy. Woohoo

shotgunjoel
May 7, 2012, 02:34 AM
Towards the end of the clip (1:56) you can see the "bullets" in the front of the cylinder. They looked a little odd to me, they look red and a bit wide. At 1:12-1:18 you can see the rims though, and they appear to be brass. Can anyone identify the load?

beatledog7
May 7, 2012, 06:56 AM
Someone must have donated the case to the sale--someone local.

Now that the event has been on local TV, where's the person who donated the case and is suddenly realizing he's short a revolver?

Doesn't pass the smell test.

Bob M.
May 7, 2012, 06:57 AM
Can anyone identify the load?

I noticed that too. Probably .38 shotshells or some sort of dummy rounds.

highorder
May 7, 2012, 07:17 AM
Can anyone identify the load?

I'd like to know as well. Looks like a wax sealed wadcutter of some sort?

MagnumDweeb
May 7, 2012, 07:36 AM
There's a Christian Life Center near my house here in Florida where I've volunteered from time to time (any excuse to break out the grill and cook lots of food for folks [at my expense, hot dogs and hamburgers for underprivileged kids]). What typically happens is grandma or grandpa passes on and the kids not wanting to deal with the headaches of sorting it all just go ahead and pack it all up and bring it to the center for folks to take or "buy" from the center.

I one time went along for grins and giggles when one lady came in and asked if she could get help unloading her passed mother's house. The lady was a hoarder and there was lots of useful stuff in the house packed from the floor to the ceiling. I thought it was hilarious as there was no legal release offered or signed, and the volunteers just grabbed from huge piles as directed by the lady. Sure enough jewelry showed up (which I was told went back to the lady). A bunch of underprivileged kids got game puzzles, sweaters, etc.. Garage sale buyers got cheap plate and glass sets, knick knacks and other "As Seen On TV" garbage.

So what could have possibly happened is someone's grandpa or dad passed on. Everyone went through the stuff and they accidentally missed the revolver for one reason or another. To them the labtop case was worthless and mostly empty so no one thought to check all the pockets and the revolver that was probably put in the bag years ago made it to the Christian center where volunteers seeing it was mostly empty didn't bother to check all the pockets.

If anything the fact that the revolver remained in the bag says the staff and volunteers at the center are honest people. My mom worked as an accountant and book keeper for a non-profit that helped people with HIV/AIDS and sometimes the staff would steal the choice items that got donated.

Note to self: always check all the pockets of bags at garage sales to see if they are worth buying.

Shear_stress
May 7, 2012, 07:50 AM
"Fully loaded" revolver?

Did it have power front reclining bucket seats and ice cold AC?

Pfletch83
May 7, 2012, 10:33 AM
It looked like a snubbie version of a model 10 smith....for $5 bucks I'll take it off her hands...Try finding a model 10 smith in seemingly good condition for 5 freaking dollars....talk about a steal.

And the woman was crying like that? What has this country become?

Bob M.
May 7, 2012, 11:09 AM
And the woman was crying like that? What has this country become?

Chronic hysterical hoplophobia. The only disease that the CDC hopes will infect the entire world. :uhoh:

AZ
May 7, 2012, 11:38 AM
Notice how she kept saying something could have happened but was unable to complete her thought, as if the very idiocy of what she was saying was striking her at that moment. When was the last time a child bought a laptop case at a Christian thrift store?

Having said that, I would have been speechless with joy if I had found that.

Gunnerboy
May 7, 2012, 11:44 AM
To conquer a nation one must first win the hearts and minds of the people, and from what i see here it sure aint the High Road thats being taken, such a shame how Gun owners talk about uneducated people.

MyGreenGuns
May 7, 2012, 11:48 AM
Totally logical to call the news before the police. The police will only remove the "danger", the news will make you famous!

Why is it everyone sticks a pen in the triggerguard to pick up a gun?

The only danger a loaded gun poses is if you point it at something and pull the trigger. So by all means, put a pen in the trigger guard.

(The gun hangs upside down, barrel pointed up towards heads and pen is in close proximity to the only thing that makes the gun go boom!)



*takes his S&W .38 out of laptop case* Just in case! :)

Skribs
May 7, 2012, 11:53 AM
When was the last time a child bought a laptop case at a Christian thrift store?

Kids like computer-related things, even if they can't buy it. They could easily have looked in the bag.

I guess MagnumDweeb nailed it - probably the gun belonged to someone who died, and the case was given to the center without knowing what is in it.

such a shame how Gun owners talk about uneducated people

If you don't know how to properly handle a weapon, you shouldn't touch it, that's just common sense. I don't know how to handle dynamite, so if I see a stick I'm not going to grab it with tongs and call the media.

hboy35
May 7, 2012, 12:28 PM
she will be crying tears of joy as her phone starts ringing off the hook with cash offers....

My church is gearing up next month for their annual garage sale, and I usually offer to help price things. Like last year a couple of stock sets for a Ruger 10-22 came through priced at a dollar a set--someone said that they thought they were a kids toy. One was a black synthetic factory stock and the other had a collapsible buttstock AR style like. I told them to up the price and a quick Google search justified it. The folks there were happy to get more cash, and they learned something.

Like most have said here--education can make a world of difference--with some folks.

shotgunjoel
May 7, 2012, 12:38 PM
It looked like a snubbie version of a model 10 smith
I'm pretty sure that it's a J-frame, not a K-frame. It has a 5 shot cylinder.

JColdIron
May 7, 2012, 12:39 PM
How did no one notice that the "empty" laptop case had as pistols worth of heft to it?

Godsgunman
May 7, 2012, 12:55 PM
Seriously, I would have told 'em "I'll give you a 50 spot for it" and be on my way. I wish I could find a catch like that at a garage sale :p

Ryanxia
May 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
Unreal how sensitive sheeple are these days.

blarby
May 7, 2012, 03:36 PM
she's a liberal because she thinks everyone else is so stupid

Everyone in my house is extremely liberal.

None of said residents are even remotely stupid.

The only thing that even comes close to our extreme love of everything firearms related, is our liberality.

For the bajillionth time, please stop lumping all of us together. We as a group (liberals) at least have the decency to pick your "conservative" nuthouses apart into their actual camps before we destroy them at the polls.

I'd also like to point out that not all liberals are happy with the person sitting at the top, nor all of his views.

In the same breath, I'd also point out that his opponent, despite the facade of the day, is not as pro 2nd A as many seem to think.... Its going to be a hard choice this year- im weighing in my votes in the house and senate this year much more carefully than that of the presidential ballot.

In short, we aren't all the same. When you lump us all together- even the ones on your side- it makes you appear a simpleton. It hurts our cause even more by alienating those on the fence politically " the swing vote " who happen to be very pro 2nd A and all its trappings, but who rightly have OTHER beliefs outside of firearms.

Some of us actually read and write English fluently, and can understand when votes count and where for issues that are important to us. In the great theatrical compromise of political maneuvering, isolating and castigating those with critical votes that would actually be in your favor with tired "they are all the same" rhetoric is perilous to say the least.

Sorry for the derailment, back to the bogus staged news story- or incredibly lucky find by the wrong person.

MachIVshooter
May 7, 2012, 03:44 PM
To conquer a nation one must first win the hearts and minds of the people, and from what i see here it sure aint the High Road thats being taken, such a shame how Gun owners talk about uneducated people.

Some people are beyond hope. People who begin acting hysterical and call the police and the news over finding a gun in yard sale luggage definitely fall into this category. Like I said, if she had an ounce of sense, she'd have unloaded it (seriously-if one didn't know how, one could Google it and have an answer in 30 seconds) and then gone to a local pawn shop or gun store and made a handsome return on her investment.

You will never convert a lunatic like this woman. Best we can hope for is Darwinism doing it's thing.

wrs840
May 7, 2012, 04:03 PM
Where did anyone see me accuse her of being stupid?

"thinks everyone else" is the big tip-off.

Warners
May 7, 2012, 04:12 PM
Who wants to bet that she files a lawsuit against the church? Why else would there be all this drama and carrying on? My money is on a pending lawsuit.....wait and see. We're going down-hill fast in this country. Ugh!

Warner

7thCavScout
May 7, 2012, 04:14 PM
I'm just amazed the reporter didn't call it an AK-47.

rajb123
May 7, 2012, 04:15 PM
...as Bill Clinton's former surgen general would say, "...[proper] Gun handling should be taught in our schools...."

NavyLCDR
May 7, 2012, 04:23 PM
What did she expect? Look at the sign on the Christian Life Center door. No where on there is "no firearms" posted. Geez, lady, if the sight of a gun reduces you to a hysterical crybaby, than shop somewhere that prohibits guns!

ClayInTX
May 7, 2012, 04:29 PM
A set up !!

Killian
May 7, 2012, 04:34 PM
Clearly this means it's time to put trigger locks on laptop cases.

wannabeagunsmith
May 7, 2012, 04:51 PM
She got lucky.

NavyLCDR
May 7, 2012, 07:07 PM
Notice how the responsible TV News did not show how to properly handle a found gun or warn others not to pick up a loaded handed gun with a pen? What happened to leave it alone, don't touch it, and call for a RESPONSIBLE ADULT! None of the adults on that video were even close to being responsible.

pharmer
May 7, 2012, 07:42 PM
"Why yes, I can come right over, take that nasty gun, and make you safe. No, I won't charge for it." Joe

Carl N. Brown
May 7, 2012, 08:03 PM
I'm just amazed the reporter didn't call it an AK-47.

No that's what reporters call rifles that are not Uzis.

That handgun is obviously a Glock not an AK-47, (Where's my PDF of the Recognition Guide to Firearms for Reporters?)

theCan
May 7, 2012, 08:12 PM
CRAP! I've been looking for just that revolver and some crazy woman gets one for free and doesn't even want it.

351 WINCHESTER
May 7, 2012, 08:15 PM
She did the right thing by calling the pd. Hopefully they were able to safely unload it. If I bought a bag like that one I would be looking in all the nooks and crannies for goodies and the seller/provider should have showed due dillegance too.

My elderly neighbor found one of her husban's revolvers and insisted that I get it out of her house. I did, but I paid her too because it was the right thing to do.

answerguy
May 7, 2012, 08:40 PM
This reminds me of the ooccasional stories that surface from time to time when a home owner finds a grenade in their attic.



Home owner makes a panicked call to the police and they come out and cordon off the area while the bomb squad is dispatched. Does anyone think
that the grenade is going to suddenly go off after laying there since WWII?
And of course 99 times out of 100 it's a dummy grenade to boot.

NavyLCDR
May 7, 2012, 08:43 PM
She did the right thing by calling the pd. Hopefully they were able to safely unload it. If I bought a bag like that one I would be looking in all the nooks and crannies for goodies and the seller/provider should have showed due dillegance too.

Apparently she called the media first.

DeadFlies
May 7, 2012, 10:01 PM
Notice how the responsible TV News did not show how to properly handle a found gun or warn others not to pick up a loaded handed gun with a pen? What happened to leave it alone, don't touch it, and call for a RESPONSIBLE ADULT! None of the adults on that video were even close to being responsible.
For real.

Even my four-year old daughter knows enough to leave it alone and tell daddy right away.

Tomcat47
May 7, 2012, 10:12 PM
Dang!.............

I would have went back to the Christian Life center and upped my donation for gifts like that!

I would say it was a church event....hey lets all get our junk together and have a yard sale......

Now some guy is going where did I put my laptop bag?.....:confused:

And the wife is asking....was it the black one?..........:uhoh:

Yes Hon! ........ It has my revolver in it, and I can not find it!

Wife..........:eek:

The_Next_Generation
May 7, 2012, 10:35 PM
firesky101-"It is a start, gotta convert them all."

Better figure out a way to live for eternity..

FIVETWOSEVEN
May 7, 2012, 10:42 PM
I think that I'm now gonna check bags like that at yard sales. Think I'll do that this Summer. I've seen a lot of stories of people like "my husband did have some old guns..." and just gotta join in on the fun!

For the bajillionth time, please stop lumping all of us together. We as a group (liberals) at least have the decency to pick your "conservative" nuthouses apart into their actual camps before we destroy them at the polls.

Honestly, how many Conservatives are anti gun? How many Liberals are anti gun? That's why so many of us lump you guys with the Anti gunners because voting your way will get guns banned much much faster then voting our way.

It's like shooting yourself in the foot no pun intended.

Skribs
May 7, 2012, 10:45 PM
For the bajillionth time, please stop lumping all of us together. We as a group (liberals) at least have the decency to pick your "conservative" nuthouses apart into their actual camps before we destroy them at the polls.

Both sides (conservative and liberal) make accusations against the other side's methods. Both sides also do the same thing they accuse the other side of doing.

Robert
May 7, 2012, 10:53 PM
Ok 4 pages of "Look How Dumb People Can Be" is enough. Not very THR at all really. And please stop with the Liberal this and Conservative that.

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