which for all around north america big game?


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Ian Johnson
May 7, 2012, 07:25 AM
just for fun I got to thinking about what would be an awesome rifle\cartridge combo if I ever had the chance to hunt in alaska or somewhere out west

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Charles S
May 7, 2012, 07:56 AM
Any of the guns listed in your pole would be awesome in the role you propose. I chose the CZ simply because I am most comfortable with that platform. I like all three cartridges. The Ruger #1 is an elegant rifle in a classic caliber. I have always wanted a BLR in 358 Winchester.

RPRNY
May 7, 2012, 08:37 AM
Great choices all. But an American made Ruger No. 1 in an classic American cartridge eeks past the post first.

303tom
May 7, 2012, 08:50 AM
My Savage 111 in .30-06................

LeonCarr
May 7, 2012, 09:10 AM
I picked the No.1 in .35 Whelen, but my personal pick would be the .30-06 due to ammunition availability. Good luck finding 9.3x62 anywhere except the internet :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

DM~
May 7, 2012, 12:19 PM
My Savage 111 in .30-06................

I didn't vote, BUT if that would have been in the poll, it would have got my vote of the choises given...

DM

MCgunner
May 7, 2012, 12:57 PM
Of the choices, I'm not enamored with the big bullet thing, but I like the BLR. I'd get it in .308, probably, though. But, if you gotta go with a .35, the .358 is a good round to work with.

MCgunner
May 7, 2012, 01:00 PM
I picked the No.1 in .35 Whelen, but my personal pick would be the .30-06 due to ammunition availability. Good luck finding 9.3x62 anywhere except the internet .


Ammo availability is a non-issue for the handloader and I think given the poll, the OP is obviously a handloader. I never understood why anyone would pick a .30-30 over a .35 Whelen just because they could get the ammo at walmart, but I handload and don't buy factory ammunition for my rifles. I can load better for less money. I think the last box of factory ammo for a hunting rifle I might have bought was in the early 80s.

LeonCarr
May 7, 2012, 01:09 PM
Hey MC I understand, I have been handloading for over 20 years. I also understand the various snafus involved with hunting way out in the boonies where stuff can get bashed around while riding on horseback or misplaced by baggage handlers. If you and your rifle get off the plane in Anchorage and your 9.3x62 ends up in Seattle...

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

303tom
May 7, 2012, 01:15 PM
Ammo availability is a non-issue for the handloader and I think given the poll, the OP is obviously a handloader. I never understood why anyone would pick a .30-30 over a .35 Whelen just because they could get the ammo at walmart, but I handload and don't buy factory ammunition for my rifles. I can load better for less money. I think the last box of factory ammo for a hunting rifle I might have bought was in the early 80s.
The hell it ain`t, you gota start somewhere...............

MCgunner
May 7, 2012, 01:15 PM
Hey MC I understand, I have been handloading for over 20 years. I also understand the various snafus involved with hunting way out in the boonies where stuff can get bashed around while riding on horseback or misplaced by baggage handlers. If you and your rifle get off the plane in Anchorage and your 9.3x62 ends up in Seattle...

Well, I usually take a hundred rounds with me, enough for snafus. I usually take a spare rifle, too, just in case the snafu involves a busted scope or something. Of course, I've flown commercial twice in my life and that wasn't hunting trips, so I don't relate to that sort of thing, ROFL.

MCgunner
May 7, 2012, 01:17 PM
The hell it ain`t, you gota start somewhere...............

Sure, but point is, I think the OP is a handloader just going on his suggested calibers. If he's not, why would he be suggesting weird metric Euro stuff?

mike.h
May 7, 2012, 01:23 PM
my vote would go to the 30.06.

56hawk
May 7, 2012, 01:33 PM
Honestly I thought all three choices were a little weird. I voted for the CZ 550 because I like bolt action rifles for hunting. The Ruger No. 1 is a great rifle, I just like having more than one shot. Caliber wise I'm not very familiar with any of the choices. Would probably go with something along the lines of the 338 Win Mag.

MCgunner
May 7, 2012, 02:03 PM
A single shot can be reloaded pretty quickly. I hunt a lot with a TC Contender pistol. I prefer the accuracy of that gun to the firepower of a revolver. It only takes one shot in hunting. If the animal is going to stick around if you missed, you have time. Most times, even a semi auto doesn't load fast enough for a second shot. :rolleyes:

I'm stickin' with the BLR choice, though. I just like that gun a lot. I may get one some day. My buddy has one and has hunted with it for many years, very accurate rifle. Shooting lefty, though I'm a right hander, the lever gun makes more sense for me than some. I have one lever gun, a .357 magnum. I need one in a bottle necked hunting caliber and the BLR is one fine lever gun. :D

jmr40
May 7, 2012, 03:14 PM
None of the listed cartridges are a good all around chioce. They are good choices for a specific purpose. All are OK at close to medium range for the largest game in NA. Which are the least likely to ever actually be hunted. Yet they do not offer any advantages over a 30-06 when hunting the same animals. In fact a 30-06 with heavy bullets actually outperforms all of them on the largest NA game. They are un necessarily large for the type of animal that most actually shoot and have much more limited range and much more recoil than a 300 magnum.

A 30-06 or one of the various 300 Mags, (I'd go with the WSM version) are not only more versatile by allowing you to shoot light bullets fast and flat enough to work well on deer at any reasonable range. But when loaded with slower heavy bullets they outperform the rounds listed on the largest game in NA. And do it with less recoil, less cost, and with easier to find ammo.

Now if you just want one of the above, they will all work. Any can be used for all game in NA, but none are the best choice. I actually own a 338/06 which can also be put into this category as well as a 45-70 and 35 Whelen. I use them because I like them, and if you want to use one, then any will work. But when it comes down to actual performance, they just won't beat either a 30-06 or 300 mag.

Robert
May 7, 2012, 09:10 PM
375H&H with handloads. Load it as light or heavy as you need. One world, one rifle. :neener:

MCgunner
May 7, 2012, 09:37 PM
Up that to, well, perhaps 505 Gibbs or one of the NE rounds for Elephant? H&H will have a favorite. :D

303tom
May 7, 2012, 10:23 PM
Sure, but point is, I think the OP is a handloader just going on his suggested calibers. If he's not, why would he be suggesting weird metric Euro stuff?
Only one of them is weird metric Euro stuff, that`s the 9.3x62, the other two are American Cartridges...............and they are both 06 derivatives.

MCgunner
May 7, 2012, 10:53 PM
Only one of them is weird metric Euro stuff, that`s the 9.3x62, the other two are American Cartridges...............and they are both 06 derivatives.

No foolin'......:rolleyes:

303tom
May 8, 2012, 08:38 AM
No foolin'......:rolleyes:
No foolin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Bushmaster
May 8, 2012, 09:08 AM
With bullets ranging from 110 grain to 220 grain...30-06.

Gunnerboy
May 8, 2012, 01:59 PM
6.5x55

HarcyPervin
May 8, 2012, 05:07 PM
With bullets ranging from 110 grain to 220 grain...30-06.

I'm not going to disagree with you on the 30-06, it'll do anything I need it to and more, but this keeps getting thrown around. Does anyone actually shoot anything smaller than 150's or larger than 185's? I know it'll shoot a vast range of bullets, but I can't imagine my deer rifle will accurately shoot at both ends of the spectrum without swapping barrels.

Unless someone has done this and wants to inform me of my ignorance...I've never tried anything outside of that range.

tahoe2
May 9, 2012, 12:39 AM
I have always been intrigued by odd calibers-- .300 Savage, .375 Winchester, & .280 Remington are a few that I own. Having never shot any of the above cartridges, my vote was for the 9.3x62. I do like the lines of a Ruger #1, but I would rather have more shots. I handload for all my cartridges, so none propose a problem for me.

H&Hhunter
May 9, 2012, 01:02 AM
For anything in North America?

.30-06 .338 or .375H&H.

The .30-06 might be a bit light for for the biggest stuff in the worst conditions, the .375H&H is just a .30-06 with a bit more horsepower. You'll never be wondering if you've got enough gun in North America with an H&H. The .338 is a really good balanced do it all round for North America as well.

In the lower 48 only the 06 is a pretty solid choice.

mattmann
May 9, 2012, 03:02 AM
Haven't heard of any complaints on the. 270 and i don't have any at all. Or my. 308 or my 280.

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H&Hhunter
May 9, 2012, 08:52 AM
I just noticed that you have a poll up. Of the choices for an all around gun the CZ in 9.3 is the most practical and usable.

The 9.3 is pretty much the European version of the .35 Whelen for intensive purposes.

j1
May 9, 2012, 09:24 AM
As far as repeat shots goes we all used to think, upon hearing rapid shot in the woods, wow that guy is really mowing them down. After a lot of years of hunting I now think, shame he did not shoot well. If you do not get it after the first, and best, shot you are starting to rely more on luck than skill. In my old age I am first starting to use a single shot rifle.

dubya450
May 10, 2012, 05:18 PM
Out of your choices I say the blr but for one not listed I'd go Winchester m70 338 win mag

langenc
May 10, 2012, 05:39 PM
Poll should be "all around alaska" with the calibers listed.

Other than AK the 308 would be all around the USA

j1
May 10, 2012, 07:49 PM
Remington model 700 in 30 06. If your list does not suit me I see no reason to choose from it.

joustin
May 10, 2012, 09:42 PM
I trust my Marlin 444 for anything I must come across in the wild.

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Ole Humpback
May 10, 2012, 09:58 PM
If were talking hunting and things aren't charging you, you've listed some great 200 yardish rounds for hunting.

If were talking hunting and stopping a mad at the world grizzly as well as hunting, you need a BAR in 338 Win Mag or a Model 70 in 375 H&H mag.

If its the former and not the later, I'd use the BLR 358 Win.

j1
May 11, 2012, 08:27 AM
Remington mo0del 700 in 30 06. I refuse to feel bound by your choices, sir.

2zulu1
May 13, 2012, 01:05 AM
Thinking about the large elk Arizona is noted for and some of the long distances involved, I'd opt for the 338 WinMag.

Of the choices given, I'd go with the 9.3x62mm, great caliber given its range limitations. I have some 9.3 loaded from years ago, never got around to buying the CZ and opted for the 338 WinMag instead.

tightgroup tiger
May 13, 2012, 07:20 AM
I don't like your choice of calibers so I didn't vote. I'll stick with my BLR 30-06. If I can't kill it with that, I won't hunt it.

j1
May 14, 2012, 08:51 AM
I vote for the write in candidate, the Remington 700 BDL in 30 06. Why? Because I can.

kludge
May 14, 2012, 09:23 AM
Alaska: I could hunt Alaska with two rifles and a shotgun. A .22LR and a .35 Whelen or .338-06, plus a 12GA.

Lower 48: The BLR in .358 Win is not a bad choice. .338 Marlin Express would also work well. I also like the .284 Win and the .280 Rem.

hardluk1
May 14, 2012, 10:34 AM
With the need for a brown bear hunt or a lone hunter in brown bear country , The ruger hawkeye in 375 ruger. It will do what the 375h&h will do in a shorter rifle. And with control feed.

With out the brown bear to worthy over or you have a guide or back up a 7mm rem mag will take anything in the rest of N A.

dubya450
May 14, 2012, 07:54 PM
If its just one rifle for everything its a winchester model 70 in 338 win mag for me.
That being said, there are two rifles in my collection that I use for hunting anything I have or ever will hunt.
1) winchester model 70 extreme weather 338 win mag
2) sako 85 classic 25-06

wdyasq
May 15, 2012, 09:36 PM
I selected the .358 Win cartridge. It is hard to beat that round.

Of course I own a bolt gun in that caliber and will build an AR10/LR308 in that caliber.

Ron

gordy
May 27, 2012, 11:00 PM
Your favorite rifle in 30-06. Will do what ever you want on any animal that walks this continent.

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