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RPRNY
May 10, 2012, 12:07 PM
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa272/LRDG/Turkey/Swedish%20sporter/65x55Swede.jpg

Friends don't let friends buy drunk. Wish someone had stopped me from bidding last night....


Carl Gustafs matching numbers M38, but sporterized and the barrel butchered to 18" and fitted for scope rings.

I will almost certainly have to rebarrel and have already overpaid but I do love a Swede!

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MtnCreek
May 10, 2012, 12:17 PM
Better Gunbroker than a bar. You could be meeting with a divorce attorney this morning.

ApacheCoTodd
May 10, 2012, 12:36 PM
Yup - brings to mind those EVIL gunshows with full bars.... Damn the infernal sellers taking advantage of me!:evil:

There have been a couple which led to a "really?" moment later on. It's been kinda funny to look at a firearm and literally ask myself... "So, what exactly was so wonderful about this?..."

I have a few still that I'll pull out and go... Huh?.?.?.?

Better still, I have friends that'll take a gander at one something or other of mine and ask what I was thinking and I'll say -"Oh yeah, I bought that at Reno or Portland..." And they'll respond with - "Bloody Mary's or Beer?"

SleazyRider
May 10, 2012, 12:40 PM
En vino et veritas---you know this is what you wanted! So enjoy, and make sure your wife has a few drinks before opening the credit card statement. :)

CraigC
May 10, 2012, 12:42 PM
It's hard for me to feel sorry for people who get drunk and do something stupid. :rolleyes:

ApacheCoTodd
May 10, 2012, 01:08 PM
En vino et veritas---you know this is what you wanted! So enjoy, and make sure your wife has a few drinks before opening the credit card statement. :)
Excellent! So in this scenario, alcohol is in fact a filter that blocks potentially negative second-guessin!

I now go forward (and look back) with renewed confidence.

It's no longer... "why did I buy that one?"

But rather

"Now, what is it that appealed to me in my more confident and self assured state!"

As for GraigC - I think you're missing the tenor of the postings. Emoticon not withstanding.

HarcyPervin
May 10, 2012, 01:33 PM
[QUOTE]It's hard for me to feel sorry for people who get drunk and do something stupid./QUOTE]

It's hard for me to understand the purpose of this response.

OP - could've been worse...much worse. Fun project gun at least, no?

SimplyChad
May 10, 2012, 01:44 PM
Could be much worse. At least its still a swede

Onward Allusion
May 10, 2012, 02:07 PM
RPRNY
GB + Booze =

Yeah...make for a good reason to never drink again.

ny32182
May 10, 2012, 02:33 PM
If you had paid $1k for a Hipoint, it might pass for a reason to never drink again. :eek:

...But hopefully it wasn't that bad.

I almost clicked the bid button on a Barrett M82 once while.. well... nevermind.

MrDig
May 10, 2012, 02:44 PM
I would be more than Happy to take that "Dog" off your hands, can I pm you you the name of my FFL? I'll cover the shipping for you:evil:

HarcyPervin
May 10, 2012, 02:52 PM
I almost clicked the bid button on a Barrett M82 once while.. well... nevermind.

That would have been fun to explain.

ny32182
May 10, 2012, 02:57 PM
One upside of being single... no "higher power" to answer to!

Shadow 7D
May 10, 2012, 03:28 PM
Um, somewhere there are NEW in the white swede barrels, or at least I think there were
OR, you just accept the rifle and keep it as a shooter to be pawned off on someone who feels like cutting up his swede

You tell them you'll go his rifle + $50, and that $50 is less than the rings and mounts would cost him.

RPRNY
May 10, 2012, 03:48 PM
That's right, still a Swede. :)

Well, the hangover has worn off and, as per the excellent observations above, at least it's not a tattoo or a bimbo name Kelleee.

The barrel will almost certainly want replacing; I just think 18" is too short. No idea what they've done to it. It was chopped to 18" and looks like it may have been turned down at the tip to hold a sight hood? Not threaded, so it wasn't a flash hider, but Oden only knows what was done to the poor girl:

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/285009000/285009307/pix131611597.jpg

The stock is fine, might want a refinish, but it's got that retro Fifties look. I want to see the patina in person and see how it shoots before I decide on anything. I shot a rifle that looked very like this (with better proportion between stock and barrel) albeit in .22lr when I competed in biathalon as I kid, so it's kind of a nostalgia thing.

We'll see when she arrives....

SimplyChad
May 10, 2012, 03:51 PM
if you cant handle having her ill take her.

Jeff H
May 10, 2012, 04:03 PM
GB + Booze =

Another humorous thread to read while I should be working. :D

It could have been much worse.

SimplyChad
May 10, 2012, 04:08 PM
Another humorous thread to read while I should be working. :D

It could have been much worse.
Who said you arent working? We wont tell if you dont.

XD 45acp
May 10, 2012, 04:10 PM
Hi my name is Rick and I'm a gunaholic.....

RPRNY
May 10, 2012, 07:42 PM
I think I've cracked the mystery of the weird "barrel extension". From a 2007 Guns Magazine article by Holt Bodinson:

"It was an Interarms import, and Interarms had roll stamped the designation "INTERARMCO G33/50" across the front receiver ring. Why "G33/50"? I don't have a clue, except for the thought it was a code for the actual price Interarms paid Sweden for each carbine--$3.50! Fed a diet of Herter's 6.5x55 brass and Herter's long, snaky, 156-grain "Banana Peel" bullets loaded with the help of Herter's "Universal" die, that little Mannlicher accounted for several deer and foxes. I remember selling it for $75 at a gun show, and the buyer remarking my Swedish Mannlicher was the best buy at the show. It certainly was.

Legal Or No?

One of the curious facts about imported carbines is they arrived on our shores with 17.7" length barrels and, at the time, the Federal requirement for a legal rifle barrel was no less than 18". While carbines today are far and few between, you will find many have had a barrel extension added at the muzzle to bring them into compliance. On the other hand, the law then changed to permit barrels as short as 16" and you will find carbines without extensions added."

So, it appears that Interarms bought a large batch of M94 (not M38 as advertised) Engineers Carbines in the 1950s and imported them to the US - under import permit or contract G33/50. This is what they looked like in the military iteration:

https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/catalog/DSC03723.JPG

Quite cool actually. The bolt handle looks slightly bent in the sporter that I bought, so will have to see whether it is in fact numbers matching. I can't find anything yet on barrel twist for the engineers carbine - was it the same 1:9 as the 29" Infantry battle rifle? But, it was 17.7" when built and, issued to engineers and non-combatant staff, I'm rather hoping it will prove to have been little used and may indeed be a keeper.

The barrel extension was welded on by Interarms to meet [then] Federal regulations making 18" the minimum barrel length. Some have subsequentlly been removed and that may be an option.

Things are looking up:)

Motega
May 10, 2012, 08:47 PM
ehhhh, so what? How many people have a bunch of drinks at a casino and walk out with nothing at all? You got the thrill of the hunt tracking down a piece you liked, the thrill of being high bidder (no pun intended hahahaha), and you have a fun project now or at least one that I'm sure you'll learn a thing or two from.

Shadow 7D
May 10, 2012, 10:05 PM
Hey, check the SN and year against the 94 database, there are a few, and they let you know if you have a ACTUAL Carbine, or a cutdown, and if it's a 94 Carbine, well, maybe you should drunk bid more often.

RPRNY
May 10, 2012, 10:58 PM
Well, the serial number checks out for 1906/07 from the Dutchman's website dedicated to m94/14 carbines, along with the Interarms G33/50 roll stamp (which unfortunately covers the date of manufacture) and "barrel extension" as well as the inspector's initials (JV, for Paul Jacques Robert Virgin who was a weapons inspector at the Gustafs Stad arsenal from 1 Oct 1905 - 31 Sept 1911) all lead to confirmation that it's an original carbine. Too bad it was "sporterized". Depending on the configuration, engineers, fortress, weapons officer etc,. these carbines have been selling in the $2000 range recently.

Anyway, as I said earlier, things are looking up.

Robert101
May 11, 2012, 01:24 AM
I'd demand a DNA test. You have a 1 in 5 chance that dog might not be yours.

Shadow 7D
May 11, 2012, 01:38 AM
Even sporterized (or as well recovered as may be done) it's worth more than Bubba's old 96

TexasPatriot.308
May 11, 2012, 01:42 AM
dont do Facebook and drink either.

RPRNY
May 22, 2012, 04:24 PM
So, my "mail order bride", as my FFL laughingly referred to her after I told him of my alcohol related GB purchase, arrived and I had a chance to give it a really good going over. This is my first Mauser and now I totally understand the attraction. I cannot believe that a German design can be so simple.

"Sporterizing" apparently meant replacing the stock, removing the iron sights and adding scope bases. The trigger is original and while it allows some adjustment for take up, it seems somewhat stiff.

The barrel extension and the barrel area where the hand guard will have been prior to sporterizing both showed substantial loss of bluing. Both responded really well to steel wool, hair dryer heat, and Dicrophan T4. They are perhaps a bit shiny now, but much improved. I am pleased about min lilla Svenska flicka!

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