[el Godfather]

Dear THR,
Which combination do you prefer for SD?

A. Sig P226 TacOps and CZ 75D Compact PCR

Or

B. Dan Wesson VBob and HK P30

Or

C. HK USP 45 and Glock 26

These are combinations my three friends have. Please elaborate on your pick.

Thanks

[2wheels]

Gotta have the VBob, so that was my vote. I could live with a P30 I guess...

But if I could mix n match, it'd be the VBob and the CZ. Though I'd feel comfortable packing any one of the guns your buddies own.

[wep45]

i take a S&W!!

[EddieNFL]

Thankfully, our choices are not that limited.

[2zulu1]

Thankfully, our choices are not that limited.
+1 :)

[jeepnik]

Well, you need another choice. None of the above. I don't even own any of those.

[click clack]

I dont own any either but I'd take the Sig and CZ

[wlewisiii]

I'm sorry but to me, none of them make much sense.

Me? Glock 19 & a 3" S&W model 13. Black Talon in the one, BB FBI load in the other.

[MrDig]

Thankfully, our choices are not that limited.
agreed
I carry a KelTec P11 and a Cobra Big Bore 9mm Derringer

[56hawk]

I voted for the HK P30 because it's the only one I would actually consider for self defense. Personally I carry a HK USP 40 and a Kel Tec P11.

For safety reasons I would not carry a Glock or a 1911. I've never shot an actual CZ75, but I've shot a few of the clones and was not impressed with the reliability. SIGs are good, just not one of my favorites.

[ArchAngelCD]

This makes no sense to me either. At least one of your BUGs is large enough to be considered a primary weapon. None of your combinations have a common caliber which some shooters like. I just don't see how you put those combinations together?

All the combinations are more like a service weapon set of handguns and not a SD set of handguns.

[el Godfather]

Arch....
Combination A is both 9mms

[LeonCarr]

None of the above. I would have two guns that operate the same. For example two Glocks, two Sigs, or two CZs instead of a hodge podge of handguns that confuse any attempt at muscle memory or economy of motion in training.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

[Spanky Albert]

I generally prefer having the same caliber for both primary and BUG. Not absolutely necessary, but I just like it better that way. I would go with choice a.

[Robert]

My 1911, 590 and AR.

[Manny]

None of the above.

Ruger LCR with Crimson Trace for CCW carry with a Glock 34 or 17L available for open carry if needed.

[Marlin 45 carbine]

none of the above but they're good combos.
mine for ccw is a Mak9 and Beretta .32acp

[PabloJ]

Dear THR,
Which combination do you prefer for SD?

A. Sig P226 TacOps and CZ 75D Compact PCR

Or

B. Dan Wesson VBob and HK P30

Or

C. HK USP 45 and Glock 26

These are combinations my three friends have. Please elaborate on your pick.

Thanks
Those choices do not make all that much sense. One could pick G17 or G19 plus G26 and use full size gun mags as reloads for the compact pistol. G22 and G23 would also work. That is how pro would do it.

[Andrew Wyatt]

You could also just use an AR or a shotgun

[jbauch357]

Out of your list, I chose option A because the 226 and 75 are great guns - I don't have any first hand experience with both the guns in your other options.

At home it's a G34 paired with a Rem 870, out on the go I'll either have a G26 or CZ P-01 on my side.

[TrailWolf]

How about a G17 paired with a G26... :)

[jad0110]

Well, it doesn't really matter what your friends (or any of us) carry. What do you shoot well? What will you carry everyday and not leave at home or in the glove box? What carry method(s) do you prefer? What works for me (DA revolvers) may not work for you.

As others have mentioned, some of those BUGs are pretty large for their intended purpose. Not sure I'd enjoy carrying two medium to full sized handguns. The most I ever go is a 4" S&W Model 28 (N Frame S&W) on my hip and a little .38 S&W 642 in my pocket.

[mavracer]

The USP/G26 would be a great choice for HD and a CCW but just not for me. The DW/P30 is IMHO a poor combo as they're both more compact weapons I would prefer a full size for HD and the DW is a little heavy and P30 is a little bulky for my CCW tastes. So that would leave me using the 226 for HD and the CZ for CCW.

[NMGonzo]

A 3 inch 357 and a shotgun of some kind

[jhco50]

I don't like any of those combinations. You don't give much of a choice there.

[buck460XVR]

Dear THR,
Which combination do you prefer for SD?



I'd always prefer to have a 12GA. Pump and a 1911. But that ain't always possible or feasible. Not being LEO, I seldom feel the need for more than one gun at a time for everyday carry.

[pockets]

None of the above.
I have to agree with the various postings of; 'doesn't make much sense'.

.

[BlackSky]

None of the above. I rotate between a Glock 36 (.45ACP) in a Crossbreed Supertuck, S&W 624 (.44Spec) in a Lobo IWB and a Ruger LC9 (9mm) in a pocket holster.

[Rexster]

None of the above, thanks. Why should I be limited to the choices made by three folks unknown to me?

If I want to carry a combo of auto pistols, I would prefer they be able to use the same magazines! G17 and G26 come to mind, if big/small is desired; G17 and G17, better, if the second need not be small. I do not currently own Glocks; just using them as an example. In the past, I owned and used multiple G22 and G27 pistols, and multiple P229 pistols, and multiple 1911 pistols.

I do own multiple .357 revolvers, which I do carry in combos, or in a combo with a P229 or 1911.

[mavracer]

Why should I be limited to the choices made by three folks unknown to me?
Because that's the question asked by the OP, and the only answers avaliable if you want to answer the OP's question are those three choices.

[ExTank]

:Looks in Gun Safe, checks ammo stocks:

Let's see, I got a Ruger GP100 .357, with some 158gr SJHP.

I got a Walther P99AS .40 S&W with some 135gr JHP.

I got a Walther P99AS 9mm, and a Taurus PT92AF 9mm, but I only have 115gr FMJ for 'em. :scrutiny:

I got a Springfield V-10 and an Operator 1911 .45ACP, but I'm currently out of .45ACP. :uhoh:

I won't go into the rifles or shotgun.

I guess I'm SOL if TSHTF. I don't have any of the guns listed in the poll.

I am so dead if a bad guy breaks in.

[ExTank]

Sorry for the snark, but seriously? WTH? SD/HD is less about hardware than mindset and preparation. Granted, getting a decent gun is part of preparation, but it doesn't stop there.

Range time, and being mentally prepared to do what needs doing when it needs to be done will put metal on target when it's crunch time, and that's more effective than any number of fancy, high-$$$ guns

[dubya450]

HK & GLOCK all the way

Even better would be my FN FNP-45 & GLOCK 29

Or

My Kimber Custom Crimson Carry & Kimber Solo CDP (still waiting to find one)

[chieftain]

There really isn't any right or wrong. (except that the folks that mention rifles/shotguns in a handgun list for use as apparently concealed carry is a bit much in my opinion)

I would continue to use my Custom Colt 21st Century LtWgt Commander in a Milt Sparks HR-LTD (think thin VM II) and a hammerless S&W 'J' frame.

I carried the Bodyguard family most of my life, starting with a model 38 in Vietnam. Stuck with the various shrouded hammer variants until recently. About 12 years ago I went to the 642 with a CTC laser grip, carried in my left front pocket in a Mitch Rosen or if necessary on the belt in the old Bianchi model 55 Lightening.

Just my way. I like the added and in some cases very unique capabilities the hammerless/shrouded 'J' frames can offer.

Good luck with your choices.

Fred

[Sapper771]

None of the above

[larryh1108]

TO me, SD means self-defense or CCW. HD is home defense. A shotgun or AR aren't suitable for SD, IMO, but are perfect for HD.

Maybe it's me, but I'd rather carry a primary SD weapon with 1 or 2 reloads than a BUG.
However, that wasn't a choice.

[chieftain]

Larry I agree with you about HD vs SD.

I always carry one additional magazine for my primary sidearm. (If I need more than one magazine, I will be carrying a long arm, and the sidearm just moved to secondary position in the batting order, with the BUG to third.)

I disagree with you about a BUG. I don't know about your life, but in my life STUFF HAPPENS. I have been in enough gunfights to know that guns jam, break, get shot, get dropped, get taken away, and sometimes simply black magic stuff happens.

In my life if I am in a firefight it is usually not a good day and bad stuff tends to pile on bad stuff.

Frankly in my life, "STUFF STILL HAPPENS". So I still keep Plan 'B' on standby and carry a BUG.

Because of that, I believe a plan 'B' is always a good idea. I believe that in all things. My daughters say that it is because I am just to negative. I have found having a Plan 'B' has kept me from getting REAL negative during my life.

That is exactly what the BUG is for. I have carried a Shrouded or hammerless 'j' frame for BUG duties since 1967. In Vietnam I carried a M14 for my first 1.5 tours, and a 1911 or Victory model S&W as secondary. In my trouser's cargo pocket there was ALWAYS a S&W model 38 as tertiary. I left the Smith there with a friend when I came home.

By the way I never have had to use my BUG. I had to use the secondary several times in Vietnam, but the tertiary BUG was never needed, thank GOD.

May you never need a Plan 'B'. Good luck.

Fred

[Jesse 8]

Why are you asking us? To Settle a bet with your buddies? Who has the best system according to THR? Or are you looking for advice on what you should do? I'll tell you what works for me, but that probably won't help you much. Look to the above posts. Get a gun YOU will carry with you ALL the darn time. Then get a bug with the same priorities. Then train with them both. For me, primary carry is a Glock 30 AIWB with one spare G21 magazine. When I carry a bug, it's my Ruger sp101 at 8:00. Good luck finding a system that works for you

[72guns92]

none of the ones listed, 1911 and SAA 45acp,45colt will do all that you need done

[19-3Ben]

I'm with those who don't like any of the options because they are oddly specific, out of my price range anyway, I have no experience with which to base an opinion, and let's face it, they are the same specific guns that el godfather puts in every opinion poll he posts.

The SD combo that would really work for me would be a full sized M&P and an M&P compact. As for 9 or 40... don't really care which. But I'd want common ammo and mags.

[SKILCZ]

PCR is great for carry & all around gun.

[Prosser]

I'll take B, just because I've always wanted a Dan Wesson BobTail, and could never justify spending the money.

[Waywatcher]

I think many people aren't reading the original post before responding...

But to clarify my vote, none of the options are very good, or in other words, none of your friend's combinations are very good.

I would like to see a shotgun/revolver combination, myself. (12ga/.38+P) Or if insistent on two handguns; one revolver and one auto. (.38+P and .40 are my choice.)

[NMPOPS]

I wouldn't pick any of the choices. My primary carry weapon now that I'm retired is a S&W 642 if I need more I will add a M-65.

[doc2rn]

Personally I would want the Dan Wesson and the CZ 75

[Snubshooter]

None of the above. To me they don't make sense. Multiple calibers and multible makers makes for TOO much to go wrong. If my bug is a G26, than my primary should be a G17, same caliber same mags for reloads. Unless you use a J frame for your BUG which is simplicity itself.

[skt239]

Another odd poll from el godfather. I pick none of the above. The combos don't make any sense to me at all.

[fastbolt]

Is this a real question, or a "fantasy sports team" type of question?

The proposed choices don't seem to be meant to be complementary to each other. Were they selected because you liked them in brochures, gun magazines, manufacturer websites or a gun store display case? Any actual live-fire time with any of them? Are they intended to fit some criteria other than being popular, or tacti-cool?

I own a couple of G26's. Decent smallish 9's. My favorite among the Glock model line.

I wouldn't pick any of those "pairings" (if intended to be used in "pairs"), myself.

However, in the spirit of the OP's poll, I could make do with either Choice B or C, if required to do so. I suppose if forced to choose from among that pair, the one with the G26 would probably win for practicality, convenience, maintenance and ease of support (in the event of repair by myself, as an armorer, or factory repair).

Neither pairing in B or C would be something I'd particularly come up with if starting with a blank sheet of paper, though ...

[451 Detonics]

Those being the choices I had to choose the HK/Glock but the chances of me owning that combo is slim to none and slim left town. Chances of me carrying that combo is on par with me winning the Powerball and I don't buy tickets.

Combos I do carry include

Glock 19/ Kel Tec PF-9
S&W 2 inch Model 15/ 642

For many years I carried a 1911/ Semmerling combo till someone offered way too much for the LM4.

[The Lone Haranguer]

This makes no sense. Why have such disparate calibers, action types and control locations as a combo? Something like, for example, a full size and compact 1911, or a full-size and subcompact Glock, does make sense.

[CountryUgly]

Not diggin' the field. I roll old school 1911-A1 with a S&W snubbie.

[Prosser]

"These are combinations my three friends have. Please elaborate on your pick. "

My friends picked up guns they liked, or guns they got good deals on.

I see no reason he can't have friends with 3 different combinations.
WHY you would seek to emulate something like that I do question.

For instance I passed on a Dan Wesson Bobtail when @ 900 dollars.
What are they now? 1500? I passed because they are not much more concealable then a full sized 1911, and I already have a custom 1911 Kimber that shoots .45 Super, and a Detonics Combat Master that does as well.

To make sense I would have picked up a 1911 with an alloy frame and the Commander size.

That doesn't mean the Dan Wesson isn't an excellent choice for a carry gun.
It is.

The P30 looks like an excellent gun. It looks big, and I can't own it due to magazine capacity in the People's Republic of **********.

However, if you can get a carry permit for it, and carry it, I'm sure it's an excellent, accurate gun, with high capacity, in both .40 and 9mm.

The problem with the question is it's not specific as to the calibers of the weapons involved. Is the sig a 9, 357, or .40? etc.