Have you ever carried concealed a non-pistol?


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Skribs
May 13, 2012, 06:33 AM
I'm just curious if anyone has ever conceal carried (not open carried, but actually concealed) something besides a derringer/revolver/semi-auto pistol. By semi-auto pistol, I am specifically refering to one where the magazine goes in the pistol grip.

If so, what was it, how did you carry it, and how hard was it to conceal? (This includes carrying a long gun in something that made it look like you didn't have a long gun, for the express purpose of self defense).

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Flopsweat
May 13, 2012, 06:53 AM
I had an answer all typed up for you, and then I realised that this is THR. ;)

Skribs
May 13, 2012, 06:56 AM
All I can say is that has an incredible magazine capacity...

And I should have realized that someone would go there.

SANDRAT
May 13, 2012, 07:42 AM
If you carry a long gun in say,a violin case,or,a M11 in a briefcase and it can be fired without taking it from the case,you now have an AOW which is a CLIII/NFA weapon.On the upside,send in your Form 1 (permission to manufacture) along with $200 and build what you want.Could be a cool little project.

mnrivrat
May 13, 2012, 07:43 AM
I would suspect that permit to carry laws are for handgun only. Or at least in my state the law reads "permit to carry a handgun".

Sub guns ,and class 3 type firearms that are small enough to conceal would therefor remain illegal to carry in a concealed fashion.

If your talking other items like knives ,or a blackjack, or perhaps pepper spray, then I would think someone carries these where allowed.

esq_stu
May 13, 2012, 08:15 AM
In Michigan, a rifle under 30 inches overall length is defined as a pistol. My folding stock Mini-14 is a pistol in MI and with my concealed pistol license I have concealed it under a coat just to try it. (Obviously the magazine does not go in the pistol grip.) It is not comfortable and I have no reason at this time to do so on a normal basis.

303tom
May 13, 2012, 08:46 AM
Yeap, used to carry one of these all the time.......

bearcreek
May 13, 2012, 09:10 AM
Pocket knife all the time.

shooter_from_show-me
May 13, 2012, 10:22 AM
Pocket knife all the time.
Same here, a SOG 4" folder that's max length for a folder here in Missouri. But that will change on July 21, 2012 when I have my CCW class at Bass Pro Shops.

22-rimfire
May 13, 2012, 10:46 AM
I conceal my pocket knife essentially "all the time" and you don't need a permit. :D

Saakee
May 13, 2012, 10:46 AM
Kabar Marine Hunter. Recently had a kid ask me if it was real. When i said yes, he asked why i wore it. "Cuz my broadsword is illegal." His dad laughed so hard he dropped a gallon of milk.

I once carried a Serbu Super Shorty in a shoulder rig for about two weeks when I was working for a friend's dad. He thought my Glock was too puny for the job he had hired me for.

I used to carry a collapsible baton but it disappeared somehow.

CountryUgly
May 13, 2012, 11:29 AM
Not sure if this counts but I carried a Mossberg 500 pistol gripped gun on my back in a sleeve under my jacket while riding my dual sport bike into the back country camping. Since I did stop at a store and was walking around in public with it I gues I can answer your question with a yes.....

Lex Luthier
May 13, 2012, 11:33 AM
It is possible to conceal all manner of weapons. Nunchucku slung over your jacket armpit , throwing knives in a wrist wrap, knives almost anywhere. mace in cell phone holster. Book bindings, rolled up magazines. Boots, of course, are a weapon in themselves.

Perhaps my favorite weapon to conceal is the big fat round house kick coming out of nowhere the BG will never expect. An old friend of mine got his jaw broken by an aggressive idiot who snuck up on him with a full pop can.

The pure concept of situational awareness includes improvisational defense.

Nuclear
May 13, 2012, 01:30 PM
In some states even MGs and suppressed weapons are legal to conceal. As I recall, if you can legally own it and can conceal it, you can carry it in AZ (except for nunchucks).

But I've never conceal carried anything but a handgun and a knife.

MrDig
May 13, 2012, 03:27 PM
Other than the fact that most wasabi ninjas would hurt themselves, why would nunchucks be illegal?
Seriously though I carry a knife usually a folding knife with a locking blade and a pocket clip all the time.
When I drove cab I always had a leather sack full of change that could be pressed into service as a sap if I needed it.
Other than that no I don't or haven't carry anything.

Elkins45
May 13, 2012, 04:06 PM
Here in KY it's a concealed WEAPONS permit, not a gun permit. You could legally carry an Uzi if you had the proper tax stamp. Or a sword, or throwing stars...

Just for S&G I once carried an M4 carbine under a raincoat. I was planning on going to the grocery store, but decided against it as soon as I sat down in the car. So technically I have to answer your questions with a NO because I never left the driveway.

I used to carry a collapsible baton when I worked at a previous job where I was afraid I might need it. This was before we had a CCW permit system here and I didn't realize that penalty-wise it wasn't any worse to illegally conceal a gun.

armoredman
May 13, 2012, 04:06 PM
Short answer, yes. Long answer, but surely not every day!

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Oh yeah, Benchmade Resistor and Leatherman every day. But this is AZ, as mentioned before, we can carry ALMOST anything we want, with the lonely exception of nunchucks. If I have a lawful NFA firearm I can carry it concealed or openly too, without a permit.

TurtlePhish
May 13, 2012, 04:13 PM
One of the CT gov websites states specifically that the law does not address the carry of long guns, openly or concealed, so it's not illegal, per se.

HGUNHNTR
May 13, 2012, 04:14 PM
I would suspect that permit to carry laws are for handgun only. Or at least in my state the law reads "permit to carry a handgun".

Sub guns ,and class 3 type firearms that are small enough to conceal would therefor remain illegal to carry in a concealed fashion.

If your talking other items like knives ,or a blackjack, or perhaps pepper spray, then I would think someone carries these where allowed.
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Not in Georgia. Our newly refined and awesomized CCW laws allow for the concealed carry of a rifle as well as a handgun. I have not CC'd a long gun though.

spazzymcgee
May 13, 2012, 04:21 PM
I conceal my 28" barrel 870 in my front pocket everywhere I go. I felt undergunned with my S&W 500, so I figured "Go big or go home".

scaatylobo
May 13, 2012, 04:47 PM
As was pointed out this is thr,and they have already destroyed enough of my posts.

In fact I doubt this one will be allowed :banghead:.

But yes to your answer,it was actually legal as I was LEO.

And it was for personal safety.

FROGO207
May 13, 2012, 06:44 PM
I tell ya I feel neked without at least one knife on me or within arms reach at all times.:D I really do have at least a folder with 3.5 inch blade stashed on me all them time. It has come in handy several times in the past no question. One of the reasons that I do not fly anymore.

SANDRAT
May 13, 2012, 07:55 PM
Here in Alaska,no CPL/CCW,etc is needed.You can carry open or concealed anywhere firearms are allowed,but you must tell any LEO a firearm is in your possession or it is an automatic felony.I've heard they get a bit uptight in "Los Anchorage",but everywhere else is pretty laid back.

230RN
May 13, 2012, 08:21 PM
Here in KY it's a concealed WEAPONS permit, not a gun permit. You could legally carry an Uzi if you had the proper tax stamp. Or a sword, or throwing stars...

That's the way it used to be in Colorado, but on my last renewal, the permit card was changed to read "handguns."

armoredman
May 13, 2012, 08:40 PM
I knew a guy years ago who owned a gun shop and routinely carried thousands in cash on his person. He also carried a MAC in an SMZ rig, 10 round mag, twin 32 round mags opposite side, Colt 1911 strong side, Seecamp .32 in the front pocket, and a 22 pen gun in the shirt pocket. I thought the pen gun was overkill.

SARDiver
May 13, 2012, 08:46 PM
LMAO!

"I thought the pen gun was overkill." HA!

bearcreek
May 13, 2012, 09:15 PM
When I worked in Haiti after the earthquake I carried an ASP collapsible baton along with my knife. Never needed it but came close a couple times. I had a guy in the Dominican Republic tell me I shouldn't have the clip on my 2" blade pocket knife showing because I could be charged with inciting panic. :scrutiny:

bergmen
May 13, 2012, 10:30 PM
Well, the California License has this printed on the top border:

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I have not been able to determine what "...or Other Firearm" means.

Dan

armoredman
May 13, 2012, 10:33 PM
Whiffle bat or Super Soaker. Sorry, couldn't help it. Hard as heck to get a CA permit, I'm told.

bergmen
May 13, 2012, 10:47 PM
Whiffle bat or Super Soaker. Sorry, couldn't help it. Hard as heck to get a CA permit, I'm told.

It depends on the County. Even though California is "discretionary issue" most of the counties are "shall issue" including ours (Mendocino). Wife and I have had ours for ten years or so.

Dan

writerinmo
May 14, 2012, 01:05 AM
I concealed carry a set of keys, a wallet, cigarette lighter and assorted coinage purt near every day.

Warp
May 14, 2012, 01:39 AM
I have not.

MedWheeler
May 14, 2012, 07:43 AM
Florida's carry license is called a "Concealed Weapon or Firearm License". It does not require that the firearm be a handgun. It also allows for the concealed carrying of other types of weapons, including edged, impact, chemical, or electrical weapons. This is a provision missing from the licenses/permits of several other states.
That being said, I have never carried concealed any type of firearm other than a handgun.

Sgt_R
May 14, 2012, 12:12 PM
I once CC'd a 26" machete, just to see if anyone would notice. They didn't.

I have CC'd an ASP baton. But then I realized that legally, I'm better off leaving it at home. So that's where it stays.

I have CC'd pepper spray, but I don't carry it any more. I have enough crap in my pockets already.

I always carry at least one knife, unless I have to go through a metal detector for some reason. At the moment I have 3 (Spyderco Police, Ka-Bar TDI, Leatherman Juice).

On my "wish list" is an SBR that would fit in a standard laptop bag, but that's a long term project.

R

Warp
May 14, 2012, 03:10 PM
If pepper spray counts then yes, of course that, it's been part of my daily carry for the 7 years I've been carrying a firearm. And the pepper spray is with me a lot more than my gun due to the legal restrictions on firearm carry.

@MedWheeler: Keep in mind that some states don't NEED that provision that Florida has because some of the things you listed (edged weapons, chemical, electrical, etc) are able to be legally carried without a permit at all. Also, in many other states concealment is not required. ;)

wyohome
May 14, 2012, 07:20 PM
Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. Nearly every day. I believe they have killed more people than most handguns.

Archie
May 14, 2012, 10:58 PM
Based on a screwy idea I heard many, many years ago, I put sling swivels on the heel and toe of a semi-automatic shotgun of short length (legal, but abbreviated) and a short sling between.

On the person, the shotgun dangled underneath my right armpit and an overcoat covered it nicely. One did have to leave the overcoat unbuttoned.

Legality? The statute of limitations has long since expired and I no longer see the need.

General Geoff
May 15, 2012, 12:10 AM
In Pennsylvania, it's legal to carry a long gun in the open or concealed on foot without a license to carry (outside of philadelphia, anyway). I've affixed a sling to my Keltec Sub2000 just to prove I could conceal it under a trench coat (and I can). I've also semi-successfully carried my full length M1A concealed, though arguably it was noticeable to the keen-eyed, as the flash hider was peeking out under the bottom of the trench. Also very uncomfortable. :o

If I actually had a reason to carry it, though, the Sub2000 concealed pretty well and was not uncomfortable to carry slung under the shoulder.

TurtlePhish
May 15, 2012, 07:52 PM
I've also semi-successfully carried my full length M1A concealed, though arguably it was noticeable to the keen-eyed, as the flash hider was peeking out under the bottom of the trench. Also very uncomfortable.

Imagine trying to whip that out in a SD scenario... :scrutiny::p

230RN
May 17, 2012, 05:34 AM
Archie noted Post 37,

Based on a screwy idea I heard many, many years ago, I put sling swivels on the heel and toe of a semi-automatic shotgun of short length (legal, but abbreviated) and a short sling between.

On the person, the shotgun dangled underneath my right armpit and an overcoat covered it nicely. One did have to leave the overcoat unbuttoned.

Legality? The statute of limitations has long since expired and I no longer see the need.


Not such a screwy idea. One of the first things I did with my Mossberg was put a sling on it. I found that was ideal for walking along zll day and jump-shooting ducks along a stream.

Incidentally, I thought the statute of limitations only started from the discovery of a crime, not from when it actually occured. Some lawyer-types check me on that.

Terry, 230RN

Razor_J
May 17, 2012, 05:45 PM
I cc a double edged karambit at work. I also carry various double edged and fixed blades weapons given my dress and location for back up purposes but my karambit is my favorite. It is a folding version which has a wave tab on it so as I draw it opens and is at the ready for use. My work uniform makes carrying my pistol somewhat uncomfortable and way too slow on the draw. The draw time on my knife is less than one quarter my pistol and given that I do have training in using it and I feel comfortable (as comfortable as one can be when handling a deadly situation) handling a threat within the magical 7 yard zone. I would suggest finding a good non firearm as a back up and preferably something within the zone of legality for your location and permit type/status. I would then go get trained on that weapon. I have never drawn my ccw pistol to defend myself. I have however had to draw my knife and was glad afterward that I was trained on its use and was able to put that training to practical use.

george29
May 19, 2012, 02:32 PM
Knew a guy that carried a semi-auto Mini-Uzi. Made no sense to me as it is just a big thick 9mm when a Browning HP with extended mag or G17 would achieve the same with less weight. Takes all kinds I guess.

General Geoff
May 21, 2012, 06:13 AM
Mini-Uzis have folding stocks, could be rather useful if you have a spare few seconds to flip it out.

Cosmoline
May 22, 2012, 02:01 PM
I have a concealed AR-15 carbine in my backpack frequently. Nothing illegal or illicit about it. I had an M1A in by backpack, broken down, last Saturday. That was a little bulky.

Heck, with a big enough flour sack you can conceal almost any rifle or shotgun. You use the folds and other material to break up the pattern, so it no longer looks like a firearm.

Skribs
May 22, 2012, 02:06 PM
It is my goal to eventually own and conceal carry at least once an AR pistol in 6.8mm. For no other reason than to say I did it.

foghornl
May 22, 2012, 10:34 PM
Never did the CC thing with anything other than a handgun.

that being said, for a couple of years my CCW revolver was an 1858 "Army Remington"...yeah a single-action 7-1/2" barrel Black Powder gun.

Only had to draw it once...have you ever seen a 'miscreants' eyes go from squinty to big as a dinner serving platter in 2 seconds? ? ? ?

FIVETWOSEVEN
May 22, 2012, 11:26 PM
I found out that I could effectively conceal and carry my AK 74 Tantal under my military winter jacket on my chest going from right shoulder to left hip. I still need to make a good sling for that and when I do it, I need to remove the muzzle break to reduce the barrel length.

Under NH law, I do believe it's legal since the law only talks about pistols and revolvers for carry purposes.

TurtlePhish
May 23, 2012, 12:17 AM
Under NH law, I do believe it's legal since the law only talks about pistols and revolvers for carry purposes.

If it doesn't say it's illegal, then it's legal! :D

zorro45
May 23, 2012, 12:28 AM
My Dad used to conceal many a long gun (and new fly rods) inside a rolled up rug. Got them right past my Mom and down to his office in the basement.

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