Using a casefeeder with bottleneck cases ?


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tlen
May 13, 2012, 02:03 PM
How does one run bottle neck cases, that require lube, through the loading process using a casefeeder? I'm debating whether to add a casefeeder to Hornady LNL AP press and I will be using [Dillon] spray lube.
Do you use a 2 step process by running the cases through manually the 1st time to just deprime and size the cases and then on the second round use the casefeeder or do you just throw the lubed cases in the casefeeder for a 1 step process ?

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JLDickmon
May 13, 2012, 02:06 PM
I don't use that particular press, so all I can do is "wonder if..."

Could you set them in a loading block, give them a quick spritz of lube from both sides, getting some in the neck, then put them in the case feeder?

Blue68f100
May 13, 2012, 03:01 PM
Depending on the caliber the spray lube will work. On larger caliber you can use the RCBS Lube die. I don't use the case feeder when I'm reloading rifle ammo but I very seldom load more than 50 rounds at a time. I know of several that do for the 223. If your using the RCBS lube die you need to remove the lube afterwards, into tumbler. Then to trimmer if needed. If your using the RCBS X-die you should be able to skip the trimming after the initial trim. Once the brass prep is completed time to run back through to complete the reload process.

hentown
May 13, 2012, 03:42 PM
I've loaded thousands of rounds on my 650, using the case feeder. I use the RCBS X die, so I don't have to trim after the initial trim. I spray the cases, then dump them into the casefeeder. After loading, I tumble the loaded ammo for a few minutes, in order to clean off the lube.

Waldog
May 14, 2012, 01:28 AM
I have had terrible luck with rifle cases and spray lube. I use a two step process; I use Imperial sizing wax, size and decap, tumble to remove lube. Then I use case feeder to feed clean cases to my LNL and prime, drop powder and seat bullets. I don't crimp rifle bullets. I have NEVER had a stuck case with Imperial Sizing Wax. Great Stuff.

tlen
May 14, 2012, 10:44 PM
Thanks all for the info.
I'll be loading large batches of .223 once I get a good load and some .243 and .30-06 in between. I've have very good luck with Dillon spray lube and have never had a stuck case. I heard problems using Hornady One Shot lube.

Jeff H
May 15, 2012, 09:00 AM
Sounds like a good use for the RCBS lube die.

http://www.rcbs.com/downloads/instructions/Lube_Die_Instructions.pdf

tlen
May 15, 2012, 12:05 PM
Sounds like a good use for the RCBS lube die.

IMHO using the old RCBS lube is giant step back wards. I used that sticky junk and a messy lube pad for decades until I discovered spray lube.

sugarmaker
May 15, 2012, 01:16 PM
Put 200 clean cases in a gallon plastic bag, give a 3 second shot of hornady 1 shot, massage the cases a bit, repeat 2 more times, set up the press while the lube dries and dump them into the hopper. Use a lee collet neck size in station 1 and a redding body die in station 2 if you don't like to lube inside case necks (I don't).

Bowfishrp
May 15, 2012, 05:58 PM
After I got my LNL case feeder I tried adding spray lubed cases but my die just dont like them. Me and spray lube do not get along well. I ended up using the same 2 step process others mentioned....lube with imperial sizing wax and deprime and resize only. Then clean the cases and dump them in the case feeder to finish the process.

I used this process for 308 and 30-06. I havent tried .223 with the case feeder yet but since I have had such great luck with spray lubes I will use the 2 step for it too.

FYI, I tried lymans spray lube and hornady one shot and neither worked well for me so I stopped using them.

hentown
May 15, 2012, 07:38 PM
When I said that I sprayed the cases, I didn't mean with an aerosol like One Shot. I have used One Shot, and have had a few stuck cases using it. However, the pump-type sprays sold by Midway, Dillon, etc., work well. Individually applying sizing wax for bulk .223 reloading isn't in the cards for me! :cool:

tlen
May 15, 2012, 11:51 PM
After I got my LNL case feeder I tried adding spray lubed cases but my die just dont like them.......

Give Dillon spray lube a try.........

Blue68f100
May 16, 2012, 10:31 AM
IMHO using the old RCBS lube is giant step back wards. I used that sticky junk and a messy lube pad for decades until I discovered spray lube.

The new stuff is nothing like the old was 4 0yrs ago. The new stuff comes in a small bottle that flows easily. The lube die is special in that it allows the lube to transfer to the felt inside the die to brass so there is no large sticky brass.

As with all Spray lubes you need good coverage and there is a drying time that needs to happen. Otherwise stuck cases will happen even on small cases like the 223.

Bowfishrp
May 16, 2012, 12:44 PM
I have heard good things about dillon too...I am going to have to give them a try!

CHALK22
May 17, 2012, 11:47 PM
I do it all in one step with my LNL and CF. Load 100 .223s into loading blocks, spray them with One Shot(never had a stuck case that wasn't my fault) drop into the CF and turn it on. I run them through my LEE decap/sizer die, and prime on the downstroke. Seems to work for me, and helps me keep track. 100 cases, 100 primers, 100 bullets, done.

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