am I the only one that just loves the 22 magnum and 17hmr?


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browncoatdawn
May 14, 2012, 10:13 PM
I just seem to love both of these for things like squirrels and such. Birds too. I spend most of my time on paper. Is there some reason neither is offered in a Ruger 10/22 platform? I have 2 17's and 2 of the 22 magnums, one each is the thumbhole stock.... I just figured a semi auto would be fun too.

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VA27
May 14, 2012, 10:47 PM
I like the 22. I have no use for the 17. A little searching and you will find that Ruger tried the 10/22 in the magnum, but it didn't work out. I had two of them; one was accurate and one was reliable.

I have a CZ (Brno) 611 that is very accurate and reliable. The H&K 22 mag is very nice but pricey. IIRC, Volquarson makes a semi, too.

mnrivrat
May 14, 2012, 10:49 PM
I started shooting 22 mag over 40 years ago and the round performed well on crows, and small game. Mossberg 640K chuckster was well named and the round worked on larger pests like coon and chucks where regular 22 LR was not nearly as effective.

Now I have a 17HMR but no longer hunt so I can not attest to its performance other than on paper which is not bad. The 17HMR was chambered in semi auto guns by Remington but did not work out well. The Ruger 10/22 was chambered for 22 magnum - not sure if that was a problem or just a slow seller. H&R also made a 22 mag auto gun.

They are nitch calibers and are still very popular among many folks today.

FROGO207
May 14, 2012, 10:50 PM
Keep your eyes open, there was a 10-22 magnum built in the not too distant past IIRC it was introduced in 1999. Google for Ruger 10-22 magnum and I bet you find some stuff.:) You can even get parts for it at Midway and Brownells to name a few places.

blackwalnut
May 14, 2012, 11:00 PM
I too am a .22 mag afficionado in both rifle and pistol.......Fantastic. Why would you feel alone?

turbojohn41
May 14, 2012, 11:01 PM
Iv always wanted a automag 2.

whetrock
May 14, 2012, 11:17 PM
If you're interested in a semi auto magnum rimfire Remington still manufactures the 597 in 22 mag. Pretty slick IMO. I've read a bit over at rimfirecentral.com and other forums in regard to the 597 chambered for 22 mag and they seem to be fairly realiable and capable of decent accuracy. I'd still opt for a bolt gun of some sort ( like a Savage 93 or CZ 455), however that is mostly personal preference.

Jefferson Herb
May 15, 2012, 01:11 AM
I don't have a .17,but do have a few .22mags.The .17 is to be embraced due to all the choices in ammo for .22mag we have now.My favorite rifle is the ruger 77 w/mod 70 style safety,with a 2-7 burris compact;looks like it belongs togather.Gets mostly 40gr sp.

doc2rn
May 15, 2012, 02:07 AM
I have both in a Ruger 77/22 MKII all weather target, with boyds thumbhole stock, and v-bolt configuration. Remarkably accurate rifles capable of 1.15" groups out at 100yds. Both sport Buschnell 4-9x50 scopes I bought on a buy one get one free clearance. They often get them in at Buds Guns. com

JSpear
May 15, 2012, 02:14 AM
Love the .22 mag, I have a NAA MINI, and I love it!! It's my hiking snake gun, it's great, I'm looking for a rifle chambered in it

hang fire
May 15, 2012, 04:42 AM
I have two .22 magnums and like them, a Marlin bolt action rifle and a AMT Automag ll (bought back in 1987) both are SS.

bikerdoc
May 15, 2012, 05:14 AM
I dont own either.

But My 10/22 is from 1971 and I have a 22/45 and a SAA, I shoot a lot of 22.

Then again Im old and set in my ways, enjoy what you like, when people pay your bills they can have a say. :)

trueg50
May 15, 2012, 06:18 AM
You are just rather lonely on THR. Rimfirecentral is the place to hang out and discus the various Rimfires.

I have a Westernfield 822; AKA Mossberg Chuckster, and I love it. I did some restoration work on it, slapped on the fantastic S330 peepsights, and she should be a heck of a shooter (I did a bit more work on it but haven't had a chance to test it out this year).

The Ruger 10/22 was made only briefly, and experienced some issues; I believe with bolts cracking. Semi-auto 17HMR and 22WMR are hard to build; they are almost too much for actions like the 10/22, but they aren't enough for the rifle to be gas operated or anything like that. At least that is the way I have heard it explained.

JohnBT
May 15, 2012, 08:38 AM
I've had one kind or another of .22 WMR for 50 years. The first one was a Model 24 .22WMR/.410. I only have one .17 HMR...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/JohnBT3/12153DSCN0118-1.jpg?t=1244400963

It's a S&W 647.

DM~
May 15, 2012, 09:26 AM
I use my Rem 597M (22WMR) quite a bit,

http://www.fototime.com/FDF9B60AA3461F6/orig.jpg

I've had one 22 mag. or another around for more than 40 years...

Ruger made some 10/22 mags., but they had so many problems Ruger took them off the market. They even tried to buy back the one my brother had!

DM

trailgator
May 15, 2012, 01:45 PM
I have a ruger 77 in 17hmr, and it's a prairie dog killing machine!
;)

mgkdrgn
May 15, 2012, 03:13 PM
I started shooting 22 mag over 40 years ago and the round performed well on crows, and small game. Mossberg 640K chuckster was well named and the round worked on larger pests like coon and chucks where regular 22 LR was not nearly as effective.

Now I have a 17HMR but no longer hunt so I can not attest to its performance other than on paper which is not bad. The 17HMR was chambered in semi auto guns by Remington but did not work out well. The Ruger 10/22 was chambered for 22 magnum - not sure if that was a problem or just a slow seller. H&R also made a 22 mag auto gun.

They are nitch calibers and are still very popular among many folks today.
Ohhhh baby, the 640 "Chuckster" .... many a NY Finger Lakes region 'chuck met their maker at the end of mine some 30 years ago. 22lr wasn't -quite- enough to do most of them in, but 22Mag made 'em DRT (Dead Right There!) every time.
In SD work, 22Mag is a particularly nasty little round that never quite gets it's due. Even out of a 1.5" barrel a Winchester solid point will deliver well over 12" of penetration in ballistic gel.

Tony50ae
May 16, 2012, 01:24 PM
I have a Ruger lever action 96/22 in 22 magnum. I love the gun and the round!

TurtlePhish
May 16, 2012, 03:03 PM
I love my .17HMR, Savage 93 with a grey laminate stock. It's my most accurate rifle, and it DESTROYS what it hits.

Dr.Rob
May 16, 2012, 03:21 PM
I think they are fun 'training rounds' as something between a 22 lr and a centerfire. Also, there are several places I've gone prarie dog hunting where all the landowner will allow us to use is rimfires. The 22 mag and 17 definitely have more range and shoot flatter than the 22lr.

Charles S
May 16, 2012, 05:25 PM
I don't have a 17, but I agree The .17 is to be embraced due to all the choices in ammo for .22mag we have now..

I really like the 22 magnum in both a rifle and pistol. I agree that the 22 magnum is a great transition from rimfire to centerfire.

tuj
May 17, 2012, 04:25 PM
I love the 17hmr round.

http://renkucorp.com/jf/pics/guns/209217_10150596295320374_532280373_18546853_431838_o_small.JPG
http://renkucorp.com/jf/pics/guns/savage/rifle611/good_group_sm2.JPG

bluetopper
May 17, 2012, 11:00 PM
You can't reload a rimfire caliber.........therefore I have no use for it.

Charles S
May 17, 2012, 11:34 PM
You can't reload a rimfire caliber.........therefore I have no use for it.

Well that was a stellar and very helpful response!

TurtlePhish
May 17, 2012, 11:40 PM
You can't reload a rimfire caliber.........therefore I have no use for it.


By the way, this is technically untrue... it CAN be done. :D

gunnysmith
May 18, 2012, 12:22 AM
Marlin MODEL 922M .22 Mag

CZ 452 American 17 HMR
Savage 9317 17 HMR
We are not alone.

shiftyer1
May 18, 2012, 12:33 AM
I don't own a .17 but I do have a .22 mag. I like it alot so far, I haven't used it on varmints yet? not sure. But I have used it on soda cans and was impressed with it's accuracy.

My critter problem grew a little bigger then i'd like to use a .22lr for. I understand .17 is very accurate at distance but I lean toward the heavier bullet for critter gettin on animals bobcat-coyote size.

JTHunter
May 18, 2012, 01:10 AM
BCD - as one of the other posters noted, Ruger pulled the 10/22 Mags from the market about 10 years ago for, what I was told, "mechanical problems".
I had been looking for several years for one to go with my 10/22 LR and my Ruger Convertible revolver when I learned this so I ended up with a Marlin bolt .22 Mag. As for something like groundhogs, the 10/22 LR or my other .22 LR bolt do the jog quite well. I save the .22 Mag for larger things like coyotes.

blarby
May 18, 2012, 01:27 AM
Given their brisk sales, and ammo availability.... probably not :D

Owen Sparks
May 18, 2012, 02:38 AM
I would like a bolt action .22 Magnum but two things held me back. One was the cost of the ammo and the other was the noise. I can shoot .22 LR comfortably wiithout ear protection but not the magnum. If I have to wear ear protection anyway I might as well have a .22 Hornet that I can reload about as cheaply as I can buy .22 Magnums.

DM~
May 18, 2012, 07:59 AM
You can't reload a rimfire caliber.........therefore I have no use for it.

One of the BEST things about a 22WMR, is the BIG performance gain over the 22LR, and i DON'T HAVE TO pick up the brass or RELOAD IT!! YEAAAA!

DM

CountryUgly
May 18, 2012, 01:46 PM
I love my .17 it's great for vaporizing vermin literally. What else can turn a pesky crow into a poof of feathers at 150yrds. Not to mention it's DN accurate. I also like the .22 mag for bigger critters (yotes and bobcats) or where minimal pelt damage is wanted.

claiborne
May 18, 2012, 01:55 PM
I bought a CZ 452 American 17 hmr in 2003 and loved it. shot it all the time. it still is the most accurate box-stock rifle (centerfire or rimfire) I ever owned. then by 2008 when the price of ammo was $13.50 a box I discoverd the 19 Badger. Better and reloadable!
I had a S&W airlite pd 351, or some such model. It was a lightweight small 22 mag revolver. That sucker spit lead out of every chamber. I got rid of it after 50 rounds fired.
I then got a smoking hot deal on a 22 Automag. Great pistol but I could not find spare mags and it was LOUD and not to accurate.
the 17 hmr and 22 mag fads fazed in and out of my life........I spend hours shooting 22lr these days.

Sav .250
May 18, 2012, 03:12 PM
Different strokes for different folks...........:)

Bigdog57
May 18, 2012, 08:06 PM
I have three .22WMR rifles -
Marlin 25MN - a very tight shooter!
Revelation - store brand Mossberg 640KD Chuckster - beautiful rifle, stiff trigger, so-so shooter - just haven't found it's favorite load yet.
Ithaca Model 49 singleshot lever rifle. So-so shooter, with modified Martini action.

My only .17HMR is the early Marlin 17V. Laser accurate.

My .22WMR handgun is the old Tanfoglio TA76 single-action western-style revolver - the Heritage Roughrider's grandad. Decent shooter, still tight and reliable with it's 60's zamac action.

I tend to shoot my .22 Hornet rifle - the BRNO ZBK-110 singleshot - a lot more, as I enjoy reloading the wee caliber. But all are good varmint stoppers.

CH47gunner
May 18, 2012, 11:51 PM
I don't have any .22WMR's at the moment - that doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to have one. I do have two .17HMR's that I shoot pretty regularly tho. I think the .17HMR fills the niche between .22lr & centerfire just fine.
The Savage I bought approx. 4 yrs. ago - it was so popular w/ friends & relatives that I had to "share", I hate that. So I purchased the CZ452 Varmint for myself.

Bruce

Savage 93R17-BV w/ Tasco 6-24x42
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/17hmr/dednutz015.jpg

CZ452 Varmint w/ Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x40
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/17hmr/DSC_0496.jpg

CountryUgly
May 19, 2012, 09:27 AM
I don't have any .22WMR's at the moment - that doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to have one. I do have two .17HMR's that I shoot pretty regularly tho. I think the .17HMR fills the niche between .22lr & centerfire just fine.
The Savage I bought approx. 4 yrs. ago - it was so popular w/ friends & relatives that I had to "share", I hate that. So I purchased the CZ452 Varmint for myself.

Bruce

Savage 93R17-BV w/ Tasco 6-24x42
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/17hmr/dednutz015.jpg

CZ452 Varmint w/ Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x40
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/ch47gunner/17hmr/DSC_0496.jpg
HAHAHAHA.......I own the same washer and dryer and the same Savage:neener:...too funny...gonna have to post a copy cat pic just for S&G's:D.....Nice guns btw, i've heard those CZ rifles are real shooters and I know the Savages are....

kbbailey
May 19, 2012, 06:20 PM
Single-Six x2
9422 XTR
NAA Mini-revolver.

Love my .22mags!

i DON'T HAVE TO pick up the brass or RELOAD IT!! YEAAAA!

^^this too^^

gwsut
May 19, 2012, 07:48 PM
I had a CZ 17 HMR. All I can say is thank God and UPS it's gone.

rugerman07
May 20, 2012, 05:26 PM
I like the 22 mag a lot. Not too crazy about the 17 hmr.

jhco50
May 21, 2012, 02:30 AM
I have a Winchester 9422M and love it. I haven't shot it that much as I also have a W 9422lr I love even more.

sfed
May 21, 2012, 04:40 PM
I have a Marlin bull barrel 17 HMR that I take to the range regular and shoot targets at 100, 200, 250 yards and using the mil-dot scope it is deadly accurate!! I love it and would not sell or trade for anything, within reason that is!! I told a friend about shooting beer cans full of water at 250 yards and he all but called me a liar, until I showed him!! Now he is searching for one of his own!!

AABEN
May 21, 2012, 05:01 PM
I have 2 22MAG one Marlin 25MN & Mossberg 640KD and both of them are good shooters.

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