Mosin Nagant decocker: I think not.


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Sharpie443
May 16, 2012, 02:06 AM
I find it hard to swallow that people actual believe this but I run into them on a regular basis. often enough for me to have to do a video on it as a number of other YouTube users have done. I was surprised to see someone in the comments section defending this non existent feature. I really shouldn't be surprised at peoples ingenuity to find new ways to kill themselves.

http://youtu.be/cO-g7yaInXA

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LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
May 16, 2012, 02:53 AM
Yeah, the "decocker" thing is a load of crap. And as far as the stripper clip thing goes, if the interrupter (terminology is not my strong-point tonight) is in good working order, aka spring is still good (interrupter/disruptor/ejector is all one piece), you can load all and never have rim-lock. If its just slightly worn, good luck throwing the rounds in there willy-nilly. You'll get rim-lock for sure if you don't stagger the rounds in the stripper-clip.

savage1r
May 16, 2012, 12:08 PM
Damn sharpie, you makin the rounds in the forums ;).

SlamFire1
May 16, 2012, 12:41 PM
Anyone who thinks lowering the firing pin on a live primer is "decocking" will be very surprised if they rap that cocking piece with a hammer.

Firearms which designs date back to the 1880's are different from ones designed in 2000.

Cosmoline
May 16, 2012, 12:49 PM
I had no idea this rumor was spreading around. It's going to get someone killed.

LJ-MosinFreak-Buck
May 16, 2012, 01:05 PM
I had no idea this rumor was spreading around. It's going to get someone killed.

It disgusts me, truthfully.

Jeff H
May 16, 2012, 01:47 PM
I had no idea this rumor was spreading around. It's going to get someone killed.

+1

I've never even heard of this silliness until this thread.

BemidjiDweller
May 16, 2012, 02:06 PM
Same, it's amazing what some people will come up with.

holdencm9
May 16, 2012, 05:05 PM
Wait what?!?!?

Decocking even a modern handgun on a loaded chamber makes me skiddish (even though I know mechanically it is totally safe) I would never do it on a Mosin Nagant.

AethelstanAegen
May 16, 2012, 05:13 PM
Dare I say some of these guys have a Darwin award coming? I can't believe anyone would actually spread that dumb rumor around. I feel bad for any newbie to firearms who believes that BS and then has a AD/ND.

HoosierQ
May 16, 2012, 05:20 PM
Isn't that why that crazy 'lock the bolt onto the receiver "safety"' is on the Mosin? So you don't have to do something like that? I mean it is hard as heck to do and maybe even harder to undo but once done, that seems like a pretty secure safety...if you really want to call it that.

BemidjiDweller
May 16, 2012, 05:34 PM
The safety will loosen up (I should rather say your arm will get stronger :D) with use.

foghornl
May 16, 2012, 06:02 PM
If you want to test that theory, pull the bullet & dump powder from a round. Chamber that round, "decock" the rifle, then give the bolt a sharp smack..see if the primer lights off.

Hint: It most likely will go POP!

SlamFire1
May 16, 2012, 06:02 PM
I had no idea this rumor was spreading around. It's going to get someone killed.

It goes way back. Maybe not the decocker part, but resting the firing on the primer does.

I was looking through my 1964-65 American Rifleman magazines and either in Dope Bag or a regular article the technical staff were explaining what a bad idea it was to lower the firing pin on a loaded cartridge.

It included text on how they then hit the cocking piece with a raw hide hammer on M1903's, etc, and were able to get the rifles to fire.

:rolleyes:


I first ran into this in the early 80's when I loaned a M1903 to a friend to hunt with. He was familiar with the H&R Topper shotguns which are single shot shotguns with a transfer bar mechanism. It is safer to lower the hammer than to carry the thing cocked. He just assumed a M1903 operated the same way.

I am certain the decocker idea is a more modern FUBAR.

Shadow 7D
May 16, 2012, 07:04 PM
there is a proper way to decock a mosin, it's rather simple, open the bolt and eject the live round, if you have rounds in the mag, PUSH THEM DOWN, till the top round is held below the interrupter and HENCE will not feed when the bolt is closed.

Now, while holding the trigger to the rear, close the bolt on the empty chamber., with the sear lowered it will not engage the bolt, and hence cock it,.

Or you learn to use the safety, anything else is stupid, dropping the hammer/striker on a live round usually results in it going off.

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
May 17, 2012, 05:22 AM
When I first bought my Mosin, someone told me that was a de-cocking feature... I checked it out and never once tried it on a live chambered round. Thanks for making this video and getting it out there! I subscribed :)

Cosmoline
May 18, 2012, 12:25 PM
Isn't that why that crazy 'lock the bolt onto the receiver "safety"' is on the Mosin?

It's a fantastic safety. Is that why folks are doing this? To avoid having to use the safety? Wow. Just pull it back. It's easy!

Now, while holding the trigger to the rear, close the bolt on the empty chamber., with the sear lowered it will not engage the bolt, and hence cock it,.

What's the purpose of this?

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