[10-Ring]

Saw one today 95%, 3 mags (2 Mec Gar, 1 S&W), night sights & case and 3 backstraps...$450
How well will it fit w/ USPs already taking up a good chunk of my poly collection?

[Skunkabilly]

P2000. You know you want it! Same thing, costs more, but fits in your collection better.

[Wildalaska]

Buy the Walther!

WildanythingbutHkAlaska

[lunde]

The Walther P99 is an outstanding pistol in either caliber. I own four. Superb features include a light and crisp SA trigger (though it takes 300 rounds or so through it to achieve this), a very short and crisp trigger rest, a smooth DA trigger, excellent ergonomics, a non-protruding decocker, and so on.

[BHP9]

I own a Walther P99 and it is one of the best of the plastic pistols. Of course I view all plastic pistols as tools not works of art or collectors items.

The one big design drawback is that it must be fired double action on the first shot. This is one reason I never carry it. Even the double/single actions can be thumb cocked for the first shot but with the Walther you would have to draw back the slide slighty to put it into its single action mode. Not a good idea in a desperate situation.

Walther cautions not to carry it in the fully cocked single action mode and to this I readily agree although in all honesty I do not see much difference between the Glock and Walther when carried this way, the ridiculous trigger safety of the Glock as about as safe as no safety at all.

My Walther is 100 % reliable, very accurate and has a very good trigger pull. The complete an Antithesis of my Glocks. Now, if I could just get past the stark ugliness of plastic.

[Handy]

Do you really want more plastic?

[Plan-B]

The first shot is actually not a real double-action, it's a long stroke single action. It takes a little getting used to at first, but I really kind of like it now.

When you drop the slide on a fresh mag, the trigger is fully forward, like it's in DA, but the striker is fully cocked. When you start squeezing the trigger it will click roughly halfway back. You can leave it in this position and it will be like most other DA/SA pistols. For obvious safety reasons it's not recommended to try and put the P99 in this mode for carry. This is what Walther calls the "Anti-Stress" trigger.

It really is a great gun.

[JimC]

Outstanding pistols. I can recommend them highly.

After I got my first P99 in .40S&W and became familiar with it, it replaced my Glock 27 as my daily carry pistol and I've never looked back. The Glock is retired!

I read where P99 owners do not like the first DA round. I do not find this a problem at all. :confused: The more you use them, the better they get.

For more info on mine, click on the link below. ;)

[Handy]

PlanB,

The first shot is DA if you decock it. If you don't, you have a SA and no safety, or condition 0. The gun is made to be decocked and carried DA. The Anti-stress trigger is to assist you immediately after firing, before decocking.

[Schuey2002]

10-Ring, which would you rather have ? An $860 (HK)Walther p99 or a real P99 for $450 ??

If you buy it and don't like it, just sell it. Problem solved. :D

[Skunkabilly]

I think 10-ring would rather have the HK!

[Schuey2002]

I think 10-ring would rather have the HK!
Skunk,if that's true, then why is he asking about a Walther ?:D

[10-Ring]

I'm gonna leave it up to fate...if it's still there when I go back, I'll buy it :D

...and yes Skunk, I would like a P2000 in the collection. I look at the Walther as a German diversity pistol :neener: in the set :cool:

[10-Ring]

Hey, does anyone know if the 40 mags work in the 9mm?

[tw1112]

Love the Walther p99! I just took my new 9mm out the other day and it shot perfectly! I was shooting Fiocchi and Federal both in 115gr. No hiccups and everything worked perfectly.

[PATH]

Mine is in the low 4000's. I love it so! Never failed to feed or fire. Eats everything I give her. I love my Walther P99 and would recommend it to anyone! :)

[rock jock]

though it takes 300 rounds or so through it to achieve this
Thsi is true. I wasn't too impressed with my Walther P99 when I first bought because the trigger was gritty. But after about 250 rounds, it is very nice. In sinlge action t is smooth as glass.

[modifiedbrowning]

10-Ring, buy the Walther that is a great price. I liked my black P99 so much I had to buy another, the QPQ. I want a Military version as well. P99's are the best of the Plastic.

[akanotken]

I guess if you don't like the trigger pull on the first shot you could always get the QA version.

Love mine. The trigger really is amazingly short in it's reset and crispness. Bought mine on a whim and am VERY glad I did.

I'm in the process now of changing back to my high power for IDPA(sentimental reasons). Been shooting the p99 for 1/2 year or so. In rapid fire it's pretty easy to short stroke the trigger, p99 has spoiled me. Don't forget about the ambi mag release (course as a HK owner I'm preaching to the choir). I really like using my trigger finger to drop the mag.

I'm also interested to know if the 40 cal mags will work in the 9mm (cheap hi caps).

[10-Ring]

How short & quick a trigger are we talking about? It might be worth buying just to try out the trigger...hmmm...

[Onslaught]

10-ring...

IMO, The Walther P99s fit better in an HK dominated collection than any non-HK there is... The mag release is of the same general design, the grip angle isn't much different, and I don't know... they just do! I fire my HK DA first shot, no safety, so even the trigger is the same.

I have a P99 in .40 to go with my mostest favorite pistol ever, my USP45. I went with the P99 over a USP40C mainly because of the price difference, and the fact that I'm getting used to not having manual safeties on my pistols. I really REALLY like this pistol. Taking the two to the range, I don't feel like I'm "swapping" back and forth when I shoot them.

When I first showed my 2 shooting buddies (both USP40Compact owners) their eyes glowed... "WOW! I really like this!" One of them even said "you know, I might like one of these better than mine... Nah, I'll stick with my HK". It's the grip that sells it. It's like shaking hands :D

For the price you're talking, that's a no-brainer in my book. Buy it!

[Plan-B]

I really should start this as a new thread but here's the skinny on the P99 trigger. Like most other P99 owners, I love the feel of this trigger. The reset is short, the break is predictable, the pull is smooth. Now that I've repeated what everyone else has said... :D

What I like the most is the uniqueness of the trigger system. There are similarities to most DA/SA guns and some differences.

Let's say you drop the slide on a new mag and chamber a round. Like most traditional DA/SA guns it's waiting for a fully cocked, single action pull. If you decock, then again, it's like most other DA/SA guns in that it is now waiting for a full double action pull. The beauty behind the "Anti-Stress" trigger is if you leave it in single action on a new mag. In this mode, the pull length is the same as the DA pull, but the pull weight is not. There is little to no resistance as you squeeze the trigger until about 2/3 of the back when it clicks into a traditional SA position. At this point it is what you would expect from any other DA/SA handgun.

Now you can drain the magazine until the slide locks back and it will feel like any other SA/DA pistol. It's the first round on a new magazine that sets this gun apart from the rest. For carry, you can decock with one in the pipe and have a relatively heavy pull, like most other SA/DA guns. Or you can leave it fully cocked and in "Anti-Stress" mode. If you carry this way and have to draw under stress, the extra click is there to remind you that you are in SA mode should you flinch and touch the trigger unintentionally, hence the "Anti-Stress" name.

The one thing to keep in mind is that, like a hammered SA/DA gun, it can be carried in either double action or single action. There is no manual safety so the same amount of care should be exercised as if you were carrying a Glock with one chambered. The main difference from a Glock is the lighter, yet longer, two stage pull.

10-Ring, I hope this helps you or anyone else understand how the trigger system works. You really have to experience it in live fire to appreciate the thought that went into it. Bottom line: Buy it!! :D

[BadJohn]

Buy,Buy Buy and don't look back.You will love it.

[45R]

I agree with everyone that says buy. Check out the old treads of TFL. Lots of good things have been said about the P99. I own one as well. Its a gun worth buying.

[tw1112]

There's no range that you can go and rent the p99 in the 9mm to try it out?? Where in ca are you located?

[10-Ring]

Snoozed & losed :fire: :banghead: Went back to the shop & the gun had been sold...I guess I can just start saving my milk money for that P2000 that Skunk tells me I need.

[Skunkabilly]

Snoozed & losed Went back to the shop & the gun had been sold...I guess I can just start saving my milk money for that P2000 that Skunk tells me I need.

Yes. That's God's way of telling you to get another HK! :D :evil:

[10-Ring]

SkunkabiRRy, why can't you use your powers for good? :scrutiny:

[Schuey2002]

10-Ring, your only going to have to pay $400 more for the HK version..

Besides, would a Walther really fit in with your collection of HK's, hmmm?:D

[David S]

well i own the P99 9mm euro model, the price i paid for it......well i could have bought a p2000 but i have high cap mags with mine and better sights.............. the p99 is a great weapon its my duty carry and concealed carry.............now if S&w would ever finish repairing my p22, id have a nice big and small gun set there

[10-Ring]

The idea of a P99 & P22 is intriguing...especially since I doubt I'll see a USP in 22lr or a conversion kit for same :scrutiny:

[tetchaje1]

10-Ring,
I love HKs too (lots of P7s and one lonely USP Compact in my history...), but I have to admit that I am not holding my breath for the P2000.

If the trigger on the USP is any indication of what the trigger on the P2000 is going to be like I will happily spend my money on something else. Then again, you can get the LEM trigger if you like that, but I know of many people over at HKPro who didn't care for it (I've never tried it). Besides, HKs have a long trigger reset.

Every single P99 that I have handled has had a smooth trigger with an extremely short reset. The sights seem somewhat hokey, but a pair of Meps or Trijicons would easily take care of that.

I say get a P99 and move on. Focus your HK spending power on getting an MP5... :evil:

[10-Ring]

Focus your HK spending power on getting an MP5...


Civilian ownership in CA is now VERBOTEN :fire: But I get what you're trying to say.

[Plan-B]

The idea of a P99 & P22 is intriguing...especially since I doubt I'll see a USP in 22lr or a conversion kit for same

In reality it's actually pretty cool. My P22 is now getting more attention than "big brother" P99.

[10-Ring]

Ideally, I'd have a USP 22 to add to the collection, but I doubt it...at least in the near future.
I really liked the LEM I tried a couple months ago. It has really got me thinking...a P2000 LEM in 9mm:scrutiny: :evil:

[tetchaje1]

Is the LEM pretty slick or is it just light, but still gritty like the USP standard trigger?

[spenny]

ive got to say that i love my P99 accurate and more comfortable in my hand than any other handgun i've ever held.

spenny