Cabela's Pietta '58 ammo


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kBob
May 17, 2012, 01:40 PM
Anyone have experience with the latest Pietta '58s from Cabela's (which are on sale $180)that can recommend what Ball size to get?

.451 too small?

.457 too big?

.454 Just Right and eaten all up?

I am thinking......still cheap beyound belief, but this is tempting.

-kBob

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Tommygunn
May 17, 2012, 02:32 PM
Pietta generally uses .451 balls, but I've heard that people do use .454.
The instructions ought to tell you what to use.
When you seat the ball in the chamber, a ring of lead should be shaved off from the ball; if not then you need to go to the next larger size.

Greg528iT
May 17, 2012, 03:24 PM
I had that very same question.. an older Cabela's '58.. in the end I took the cylinder with me, the kid at the warehouse outfitters, popped a box of .451"s open and dropped one on the cylinder.. it didn't go in. It'll shave a hair off the .451.
I suppose if it was a little too small, fell in, but not round enough to roll out, I may have had to take the nipple out and push it with a stick.

Hammerdown77
May 17, 2012, 04:36 PM
.454 has proven to be just right on my new Pietta 1860 Army from Cabela's. I don't know why it wouldn't be the same on the 1858 New Army.

towboat_er
May 17, 2012, 06:14 PM
I use 454s.

mgmorden
May 17, 2012, 06:16 PM
I use 454's in my '58 Pietta.

Jaymo
May 17, 2012, 06:59 PM
I use .454 in mine.
Good to know that .452 swaged lead bullets will work.

eddiegun
May 17, 2012, 08:57 PM
My Pietta Remington NMA(from Cabela's) works great with a .454 and shave's a nice ring. BTW I've got about 500-600 rounds through my 8" model and I have no complaints with her.

towboat_er
May 17, 2012, 09:15 PM
I just ordered the 5 1/2 Remmy.

Lunie
May 17, 2012, 09:18 PM
If the Pietta 1858 is like my Pietta 1860...

.451's shave a noticible ring.
.454's shave a more healthy ring.
The cast balls that came with the starter kit were barely .450", and still shaved a ring.

YMMV

Hellgate
May 18, 2012, 12:27 AM
I use .454s in every 44 I own. The .451s work in all those I didn't ream to .450. I have used .457s occasionally and they were just fine too.

Saddlebag Preacher
May 18, 2012, 01:57 AM
I've always used .454 in my pietta's to get a good lead ring when I seat the ball. Always had good results.

Now I have a Pietta Shooter's model from Navy Arms dated mid 1980's and has the progressive rifleing. It takes a .457 ball. But I have a .45 conversion cylinder from kirst and load .454 250gr bullets and it holds good groups. .451 bullets won't engage the rifeling enough.

ZVP
May 18, 2012, 01:21 PM
I have one, you're gonna love it! The shorter barrel does just enough to make the revolver into a super easy handling piece! I wish I'd have bought two of them instead of an origonal length Army and the Sheriff model. The Origonal seems to be Soooolong and slow to draw!
I use .451's in mine and get nice rings. It will handle the.454's.
ZVP

ssyoumans
May 18, 2012, 03:36 PM
Just to contribute, the best fitting primers are Remington #10, despite the owners manual saying #11. #11 are loose, just saying.

Tinpan58
May 18, 2012, 07:20 PM
.454 work best in mine, also 2nd the remington #10 caps. Great cap gun, great price!

damoc
May 22, 2012, 09:13 PM
go with the 454 i dont feel like i had much accuracy with the 451 and the
457 s are just a little hard on the loading lever i thought

but they all work.

i do prefer the 451 s when im using paper cartridges though

Jaymo
May 22, 2012, 09:46 PM
Yup. The .454s shave a good ring, and are the right size for my Sam Yang 909.

Remington #10 caps definitely fit best. Don't have to pinch 'em or anything.

kBob
May 22, 2012, 10:41 PM
Turns out the local gun store had all three available and I went with Hornady .454 . Looks like the box changed since I bought same for Colts some time ago and there is now a sealed plastic bag inside the box holding the balls. I had only 4 balls left in my stuff box. I had taken two out to show my kids history class at school that is finishing the year with the ACW as I brought a Colt type for show. (along with an ENfield 3 bander a saber and a large Bowie knife. Little private schools can actually appreciate parents willing to share knowledge) FOrtunately I had mistakenly picked up #10 caps a few months back and put them away so that is taken care of.

Looks like all is in readiness. Soon I will know how well .454s work in a Remmie.

-kBob

Dave Markowitz
May 25, 2012, 07:16 PM
I have two Pietta 1858s in .44, one blued with a 5.5" barrel, the other stainless with an 8" barrel. Both guns like .454 balls and Remington No.10 caps.

ZVP
May 27, 2012, 10:18 PM
I have had good results with the .451 size but when they're not available I'll shoot the .454, it shaves just a small amount more of a ring and it likely seals better.
I haven't had any bad experience using the .451 balls at all. I also use COW for filler and treated Felt wads for flash-over protection.Don't ever want to have a chainfire!
ZVP

Black Duck Charlie
May 29, 2012, 08:30 PM
My February 2012 purchase seems to prefer the .454 ball.

Jaymo
May 29, 2012, 10:46 PM
I keep reading about y'all using cows as fillers in yer cap guns. I can't even fit a calf into the chamber of my Pietta, much less a full grown cow.
Could I use goats instead?

Dave Markowitz
May 30, 2012, 09:27 AM
COW = Cream of Wheat

Captain*kirk
June 2, 2012, 02:07 AM
Simply mic out the cylinder bores.
You will require a ball size .003-.005 larger for a good seal.

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