Ethics of renaming your gun? (women?)


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twoblink
February 18, 2004, 08:01 PM
I have a question for you folks, and especially of the female varity..

If you have a gun, and you named it after someone; but now that person is not very into guns, and you regret naming it after them; do you think it's ethical to rename the gun? (I don't mean ethical like stealing, you know what I mean.)

First, would the gun be affended? (We gun owners are careful not to affend our firearms)
Second, if you renamed it after someone, say another woman perhaps, would the woman feel that she got a "hand-me-down" and be unhappy about it; or she would feel happy that a gun was renamed after her, or it depends on the woman?

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VaughnT
February 18, 2004, 08:46 PM
Like ships at sea, it is very, very bad mojo to rename a weapon. This goes to show is that you did not listen to the weapon when it was trying to tell you her true name and instead forced a false name upon it.

This careless attitude towards your companion (the pistol, not the chic) manifested itself in the fact that the woman is no longer interested in armaments.

The only way out of the situation is to spend some serious time meditating on the matter and asking for forgiveness from the sidearm. Once you have redeemed yourself, a few thousand rounds fired downrange should bring you closer together and the true name should become rather obvious.

YOU HAVE TO LISTEN IF YOU WANT TO HEAR!!

TechBrute
February 18, 2004, 09:06 PM
Can't say that I've named my guns. Do you name all your guns? How many do you have? I'd think that when you get 30 or 40 guns, you might start forgetting their names.

strambo
February 18, 2004, 09:06 PM
Amen VaughnT,

No truer words have ever been spoken of the proper relationship betwixed a man and his firearm. :p

Amish_Bill
February 18, 2004, 09:09 PM
Naming a Gun after a female of your acquaintence shows that you have no concept of a True Name. Give them names if you must, but if you can't do it properly, give them names like Spot or Bobo.

SMLE
February 18, 2004, 09:18 PM
YOU HAVE TO LISTEN IF YOU WANT TO HEAR!!Glad I'm not the only one who has his guns "tell" him their names.
My M1 only told me her name after I finally got around to detail stripping her trigger group. My 1910 Ross told me her name as I carried her through my front door for the first time. Mankind has been trying to put some sort of "Ju-Ju" into weapons since the dawn of time. I personally think we succeded so well that it has become a subconcious and largly automatic thing.

"For those who understand, no explaination is necessary. For thos who do not understand, no explainiation is possible."

Redlg155
February 18, 2004, 09:23 PM
It could have been worse. You could have tatooed the name of your gun on your arm. :D


Good Shooting
Red

winstonsmith
February 18, 2004, 09:25 PM
As far as the topic question is concerned, as long as you have the true name, then I don't think you should change it. If anything, it would be good luck to find it's true name if you think you misnamed it. As long as you don't switch every week.

I name my knives, but yeah, I wait until they tell me what they are called. My EDC folder is called Mav, after it's model name (maverick). I have a little neck knife fixed blade called "Bitch," because it's as my friends so aptly put it it's a "Bitch knife." My 14 inch long black tanto is "Vlad the Impaler." "Butch" is a macho, no-nonsensy boot knife. "Pikey" was named after the Irish Gypsies, who I bought it from... He's now rusting somewhere under the sand at the beach. Woe to loose pocket clips. :(

Mastrogiacomo
February 18, 2004, 09:30 PM
So far I have two guns I've named after a man I didn't know personally -- my compact Beretta Ms. The blue model is "Guiliano" and the inox is "Turridu."

Salvatore "Turridu" Giuliano was Sicily's Robin Hood. His first gun was a Beretta pistol he bought off a soldier or an Italian officer -- I don't recall which. Anyway -- I know he loved Berettas so no need to worry about changing the gun name. My full size blue 92FS is "Nero" -- after no one in particular, and my inox Brig I've yet to name. I don't name them after men I know personally to avoid any bad mojo like what you've mentioned....;)

redhead
February 18, 2004, 09:55 PM
It's never occured to me to name my guns. Does that mean I lack imagination? I usually refer to them by make and model. like when we're going to the range, and loading up the range bag: "Honey, would you grab my Ruger .22 SA out of the safe? Oh, how about the Kimber? Thanks, dear!"

OEF_VET
February 18, 2004, 10:44 PM
Y'all are missing the one true answer to this young mans dilemna. Obviously he has named a firearm after a young lady who no longer holds as special a place in his heart as before. The only way for him to again achieve that tranquil peacethat he knew before is to rid his entire life of every reminder of the young woman in question.

Therefore, twoblink, I recommend you ship the firearm in question to me instead of renaming her. Send me a PM with your address and I'll mail a copy of a local dealers license to you. Only through this measure of atonement can you be truly happy.

Hey man, I'm only willing to do this to help you out.

Frank

redhead
February 18, 2004, 10:52 PM
You, sir, are a truly compassionate human being!

Tamara
February 18, 2004, 10:55 PM
Second, if you renamed it after someone, say another woman perhaps, would the woman feel that she got a "hand-me-down" and be unhappy about it; or she would feel happy that a gun was renamed after her, or it depends on the woman?

I think that if you tell her that your gun used to be named after another woman but now you've named it after her, your relationship problems will be solved. :scrutiny:

twoblink
February 18, 2004, 11:02 PM
Not all my guns have names..

For example, none of my .22LR's have names... well, they are named like "The Ruger 22/45, Ruger 10/22" etc..

And I don't try to "give" them names either. One day, you hear kind of like Kevin Kosner, "If you build it, they will come"... If you send enough rounds downrange, the name might be whispered in your ear when you are sighting in one of these days...

And then, the guns that you remotely think might get sold later on, definitely don't have names...

So now I'm contemplating if I actually listened to my firearm, or I just forced a named upon her that she didn't want, and all the resultant tragedy is because of my wanton lack of listening to my weapon...

Sisco
February 18, 2004, 11:02 PM
:confused:
I call my guns things like "The Ruger", "The Smith", "The .41", "The 25.06",
"The 12ga, etc.
I also refrain from naming my cars, my lawn mower and my hand tools.
They are, after all, merely inanimate objects.

Preacherman
February 18, 2004, 11:03 PM
Another problem... if you name one of your guns after a male friend (Oleg, perhaps? :D ), won't your current girlfriend get the wrong idea about you?

:what: :neener: :p :D

ksnecktieman
February 18, 2004, 11:03 PM
Come on fella's the answer here is plain as day. You named your gun after a woman and now she is gone? Do NOT change the name of the gun,,,, find another woman with the same name. It may save you some day when you scream out a name in a moment of passion too (side benefit):):D

JohnKSa
February 18, 2004, 11:48 PM
I think that if you tell her that your gun used to be named after another woman but now you've named it after her, your relationship problems will be solved.:D

Kendra Pacelli
February 19, 2004, 12:09 AM
A gun is some what like a tatoo. It is most likely a permant fixture to your life. Unlike women/men. Name it after your mother if you have to name it after a female. Bad idea.

I agree, renaming the gun is bad mojo. Keep the name. MHO.

Amadeus
February 19, 2004, 02:05 AM
Renaming a gun is generally bad form. However, since you have named the gun after a person it can reasonably be determined that you did not listen to the gun. You gave her "A" name, but you never called her by her TRUE name. Therefore, take her shooting (the gun, not the girl). Listen to her. Clean her well. Apologize for your missteps and then maybe she will tell you her real name and all will be well again.

Iron Mike
February 19, 2004, 02:14 AM
Yes I could just see the look on my wifes face.....Honey have you seen tommy? Tommy? Yea you know Tommy, the little colt .32. Bobby and Eddy are already in my range bag, where could that rascal be?

seeker_two
February 19, 2004, 05:26 AM
My gun names usually end up being:

1. the model & caliber of the gun--if I'm the one who bought it (i.e. my Browning .22, my Ruger 9mm, etc.),

--or--

2. the name of the person who gave it to me (i.e. Papaw's Enfield, Brandy's Blackhawk, etc.).

The guns in #1 are the only ones I'd even consider selling or trading. The #2 guns will stay with me even if I can't afford ammo or can't physically shoot them anymore....:cool:

TechBrute
February 19, 2004, 08:40 AM
Tam, LMAO!

squibload
February 19, 2004, 09:47 AM
No self-respecting woman would want to be sloppy-seconds in the firearm-naming.

Thus, I've named my carry sidearm "Bitch", in honor of all of my past loves. (It's a great catch-all. The name and the gun are both accurate, and my wife has no problem with that rationale, either!)

On my way to the range I'll tell her that, "I'm going out to shoot the Bitch!" Wifey still laughs every time.

BigG
February 19, 2004, 09:58 AM
Go and say ten "Hail Brownings," and sin no more!

keano44
February 19, 2004, 10:09 AM
OEF_VET, you beat me to it.

Twoblink, there's no way to ever remedy this except to rid yourself of the gun. I would be happy to take "her" off your hands, give her a good home, and call her by her given name, with no second thoughts, ever.

cordex
February 19, 2004, 10:23 AM
I think that if you tell her that your gun used to be named after another woman but now you've named it after her, your relationship problems will be solved. :scrutiny:
Tamara ... placing the loaded, misnamed gun against one's own head and pulling at the trigger would be cleaner and more intelligent, I think.

I'm not much for naming my tools, but if I did I'd avoid naming guns I wanted to keep after people I knew.

Skunkabilly
February 19, 2004, 10:28 AM
This isn't one of your .308s, is it?? :uhoh:

twoblink
February 19, 2004, 11:00 AM
Tamara...

If I did that, what would that be called then? Suicide by renaming?? :evil:

Tamara
February 19, 2004, 11:08 AM
"Suicide by renaming"? No, more like "celibacy by TMI." ;)

Amish_Bill
February 19, 2004, 11:27 AM
Wouldn't all of this be solved by giving your current girl a 'pet name' that matches the gun?

:evil:

Series 70
February 19, 2004, 11:34 AM
Two firearms in my house have been named. My 1911 is Big Dog. Wife's M60LS is Baby. Others are referred to by maker or model.

With regard to renaming... I've researched the renaming ceremony for boats and it is somewhat complex. It involves removal of the transom board, putting something containing the name over the stern, then backing down over the name, while speaking some official phrase recinding the name. Only then may the boat be re-christened with a new name.

So for a firearm, we could shoot at a target marked with the old name, remove the target, then shoot a fresh target while speaking the new name of the piece. Or something like that. Just don't piss-off the gun.

Sean Smith
February 19, 2004, 11:38 AM
Well, THIS explains alot. ;)

"Sean, we have to talk..."

Internal dialogue: :what: :cuss: :banghead: :barf:

"Um, what is it?"

"I have to know something."

:rolleyes:

"OK...?"

"Do you name your guns after chicks you've 'banged' ?"

:confused:

"Noooooo...."

"You're the greatest boyfriend ever!"

:evil:

harpethriver
February 19, 2004, 01:54 PM
I'm more worried about Preacherman's thought of naming the gun "Oleg". From what I've heard the girlfriend, upon hearing that would likely stomp the gun on the ground before sending it to the local incinerator.:evil: :neener:

Frohickey
February 19, 2004, 02:58 PM
You named your guns after a woman?!!! :what:

Is this woman, big, loud, and makes nasty wounds? :evil:

Edward429451
February 19, 2004, 03:32 PM
You can't name a gun after someone you know. You'll make a disturbance in the force. See what problems you have by doing so? Series 70 is correct, though it is a more involved process foe a gun than for a boat. Sort of a psychiatrical exorcism. A long and delicate process that sometimes takes years for the gun to recover. Send it to me and I will try to save it. If it ever recovers, I'll let you know.:neener:

I thought names for weapons was mostly just for code talk in front of strangers or people not in the circle.

Skunkabilly
February 19, 2004, 03:37 PM
My P7M8 is named Grace Kim. Twoblink helped me pick the name :D

MMcCall
February 19, 2004, 04:09 PM
This is, undoubtedly, in the top ten lamest threads ever. I want my 2 minutes back.

George Hill
February 19, 2004, 04:12 PM
I think VaughnT pretty much covered it.

Frohickey
February 19, 2004, 05:48 PM
My P7M8 is named Grace Kim. Twoblink helped me pick the name

Isn't that the model that appeared in such films as Conan the Destroyer and A View To a Kill? :D

VaughnT
February 19, 2004, 06:19 PM
True story: For years, I carried a S&W 686 on my hip while working. I spent countless hours shooting her down at the range. I cannot recall ever hearing her name. This might be because it's a company-issued weapon, but there it is nonetheless.

Does that change my feelings for the pistol? Not a bit. Though I hadn't worn that particular piece for almost a year, I took it up to NC to run through a quals course. When I strapped on that old dutybelt and slid her in to the holster, a feeling of supreme comfort washed over my whole body. It might sound silly to someone that has never been there, but those that have know that feeling. Even though I hadn't practiced with it for a year, or even worn that belt, the pistol virtually lept in to my hand when the buzzer sounded and my time/scores were very, very good. I don't believe this could have been done with any other weapon, including the one that I wear today.

Fact: the True Name of your weapon is not necessarily the name you would have liked or the name of a lady you hold dear.

Example: There is a beautiful, young lady named Emily that works at a local bank. She's funny, intelligent, and certainly an 8 on anyone's scale, but she wouldn't join me for dinner (thus proving what I said about her intelligence).

My Ruger MkII is also called Emily.

Emily - the person - would go on and on about how picky she is about what she eats (won't eat chicken just because she's afraid that it won't be cooked all the way).

One day I'm down at the club shooting my .22lr, focusing really close on sight picture and trigger squeeze, when my Ruger started fumbling on different makes of ammo: a picture of Emily-the-person flashed through my mind and a breeze blew across my soul. Maybe I was in the right frame of mind to receive the name. Maybe I had spent enough time with the .22lr. Maybe I'm just a silly boy pining after the girl I can't have.

Regardless of your take on the matter, Emily is the name I call my Ruger MkII by. Everyone at work knows her name, and razzes me unmercifully, but that's her name.

As has been said before, you don't name the weapon; you listen for her name. When you are ready, when you have proven your worth, she will tell you.

wrench
February 19, 2004, 08:40 PM
I agree with some of the earlier posters, who suggested that though you named the gun, it was not the gun's TRUE name, and thus when you discover the true name, it would not be discourteous to correct your error.
signed, Isabella, wrench's beautiful beretta...

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