Ruger LC9 - Aftermarket Trigger Options


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Captains1911
May 18, 2012, 07:37 PM
I love everything about my LC9 except for the LONG trigger pull in which I just can't get used to, mostly because I shoot Glocks a lot. So, are there any reliable aftermarket trigger parts that will shorten the length of pull? I do not want to decrease the pull weight much if any because I carry with the safety off, but I would not mind losing a few pounds.

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skt239
May 18, 2012, 09:38 PM
To date, I have not heard of any drop in's or quick fixes for the LC9. How long have you had it? It might just take a lot of dry firing.

danez71
May 18, 2012, 10:23 PM
Here you go....

http://www.gallowayprecision.com/lc9performanceparts.html

Captains1911
May 18, 2012, 10:29 PM
To date, I have not heard of any drop in's or quick fixes for the LC9. How long have you had it? It might just take a lot of dry firing.
I've had it since February of last year, almost 1000 rds thru it. Dry firing it won't make the trigger pull any shorter.

EnglishmanInArizona
June 24, 2012, 01:24 PM
The Galloway Precision trigger bar and hammer, which are required for the RTK Tactical Trigger on the Galloway Precision site, are out of stock (apparently Ruger won't sell them the parts any more) If you send Galloway your own trigger bar and hammer they will modify them and send them back.

Alternatively, RTK sell the "RTK Short Stroke" trigger from their own site. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link, but Google it and it comes up easy.

I've not tried either. According to RTK the short stroke trigger will shorten both the take-up and the overtravel, but you need to add the Galloway modified hammer in order to shorten the reset and break. It is not compatible with the Galloway trigger bar.

Someone in RugerForum is very happy with the short stroke trigger. Search for "Hot Rod LC9".

Happy shooting!

JERRY
June 24, 2012, 02:33 PM
i dont feel like monkeying with mine but i wish there was somebody near me whom would remove the magazine disconnector and thrumb safety.

i figured ruger would have made this a great gun had they simply scaled up the lcp.....but nooooooooo, they made an over built kel-tek and now i want my lc9 as kel-tekish as possible. in fact id trade it for a pf9 right now....

ares338
June 24, 2012, 11:28 PM
I wouldn't trade my LC9 for anything. It conceals perfectly, is accurate and has 650 rds through it without a single problem. I will eventually get the Galloway Upgrade because as good as it is now, it will only improve. By the way, I shoot the LC9 from the weak side and I am much more accurate that way.

BBDartCA
June 25, 2012, 11:00 PM
Best option for Lc9 trigger pull is to sell it and buy an Kahr CM / PM9. Not sure if I would want to be owning a SD pistol with a modded trigger and something bad happened.

EnglishmanInArizona
June 26, 2012, 05:06 AM
In California, possibly not.

I haven't yet found much evidence to support the idea that this is commonly used in court, however.

There is a very strong argument to be made that a better trigger makes the weapon safer because you are less likely to hit bystanders. Try selling that to a jury of liberals, though.

My problem is the magazine disconnect. I don't like them and they actually make a difference to the LC9 trigger. If a ND occurred, however, that could have been prevented by the disconnect, that would probably be indefensible. I live alone, though, with no kids, so I feel relatively comfortable in taking the chance.

Captains1911
June 26, 2012, 11:32 AM
Not sure if I would want to be owning a SD pistol with a modded trigger and something bad happened.
I don't buy into that idea at all. If it provides an advantage, then I'll take my chances if it is ever used in a justifiable self defense situation.

gym
June 26, 2012, 10:37 PM
The galloway is the way to go, You can go with the kit, trigger bar, hammer and trigger. Or he was modding the clients own trigger bars but you still needed the modded hammer. Now he just came out "a month or two ago" with a great new trigger with adjustable travel for creep and take up. forward motion and shorter pull, that one also still needs the trigger bar and hammer, Last time I looked they were all on hold. He sold out of everything, because they work so well. It cuts the pull by 30-50 %. I am waiting on the new trigger, it is a solid piece like on a 45, not a lever. If you go on utube you can pull dozens of videos on the Galloway system. I also love my LC9. I posted a target just with using the laser at 25, 50, and 75 feet, all in the black. 2-3 inch groups at 50 feet. Not bad for a little wobblelly trigger. That was just with the laser shooting from every place but the sights. Several groups were 1 hole cut out of the paper. They are on a prior post. That's what I wanted, something I could just put the dot on and know it's going to go down.
I shot it one handed weak handed from hip, shoulder, "you get it", if dosen't miss when the dot is on the target.
By the way the mag safty comes right off with 2 pins and a little punch, you have to remove the trigger, it's really easy and also on utube. It's actually safer without it, you can practice with an unloaded gun without mistaking a mag with a round in it for an empty.

WardenWolf
June 26, 2012, 10:40 PM
Why did they have to make the trigger so UGLY? I mean, I know these guns aren't designed to be lookers, but still.

EnglishmanInArizona
June 26, 2012, 10:49 PM
Really seems like the little LC9 is a love it or hate it kind of a gun. Saving my pennies at the moment, but I have my eyes on one. Sure, I'd rather have a Sig P290, but I just can't spare the change. Shot an LCP quite a bit and although I found it rather ridiculous, it was a lot of fun.

Really nice point about the mag disconnect, Gym. It hadn't occurred to me that it actually introduces an entirely new way to have an ND.

Loving the signature lines, WardenWolf!

WardenWolf
June 27, 2012, 01:02 AM
Loving the signature lines, WardenWolf!

Thanks. As you can probably guess, I'm an IT guy. Unfortunately, I'm also an out-of-work IT guy right now.

You know, this company could probably make a fortune making replacement parts for Diamondbacks that don't break when you pull the trigger. If they're willing to make entirely new transfer bars, maybe they can make one for the DB guns that won't snap randomly. Then again, they probably already considered it and are avoiding them like the plague. I doubt you could engineer a part for them that wouldn't break without using titanium.

Captains1911
June 27, 2012, 08:10 AM
The galloway is the way to go, You can go with the kit, trigger bar, hammer and trigger. Or he was modding the clients own trigger bars but you still needed the modded hammer. Now he just came out "a month or two ago" with a great new trigger with adjustable travel for creep and take up. forward motion and shorter pull, that one also still needs the trigger bar and hammer, Last time I looked they were all on hold. He sold out of everything, because they work so well. It cuts the pull by 30-50 %. I am waiting on the new trigger, it is a solid piece like on a 45, not a lever. If you go on utube you can pull dozens of videos on the Galloway system. I also love my LC9. I posted a target just with using the laser at 25, 50, and 75 feet, all in the black. 2-3 inch groups at 50 feet. Not bad for a little wobblelly trigger. That was just with the laser shooting from every place but the sights. Several groups were 1 hole cut out of the paper. They are on a prior post. That's what I wanted, something I could just put the dot on and know it's going to go down.
I shot it one handed weak handed from hip, shoulder, "you get it", if dosen't miss when the dot is on the target.
By the way the mag safty comes right off with 2 pins and a little punch, you have to remove the trigger, it's really easy and also on utube. It's actually safer without it, you can practice with an unloaded gun without mistaking a mag with a round in it for an empty.
The problem is the Galloway parts are not available, and factory parts to send him are no where to be found. I really wish this guy would stop dragging his feet.

Captains1911
June 27, 2012, 08:12 AM
Really seems like the little LC9 is a love it or hate it kind of a gun. Saving my pennies at the moment, but I have my eyes on one. Sure, I'd rather have a Sig P290, but I just can't spare the change. Shot an LCP quite a bit and although I found it rather ridiculous, it was a lot of fun.

Really nice point about the mag disconnect, Gym. It hadn't occurred to me that it actually introduces an entirely new way to have an ND.

Loving the signature lines, WardenWolf!
Follow the same firearm safety rules that you would with any other gun and the mag disconnect is COMPLETELY unnecessary. Mine came out the day I bought the gun.

gym
June 28, 2012, 10:19 PM
It makes no sense to have to insert a mag into an empty gun to dry fire it. Seacamp had this system, and if the mag wasn't halfway up it you could not cock it or fire it.
It isn't a stretch that somone gets distracted and puts a mag in the gun prior or after cleaning it, to function check it, and bang. I been doing this carry thing for 42 years, and have seen or heard of experienced safety consious people get distracted and fire off a round. The mag has no reason to go back into the gun in order to check the function of the firearm. I use a #2 pencil on alll my guns, with an erasor against the firing pin after cleaning to make sure the firing pin is functioning properlly, the pencil should fly out of the barrell. I would not like to have to place a mag in the gun in order to test it. It's dangerous , especially if the phone rings and you lose focus for a second, it's easy to stick in a mag with a round of 9mm in it by mistake.
The 9mm round is very light comared to my 45's and being able to "feel" 1,- 100 grain powerball, could be fatal
Also if you are in a gunfight and pull your mag to check your rounds, and have to fire quicklly you should not have to hesitate fumbling for the mag if you have a round chambered.Plus that lc9 has a huge red piece of metal sticking up to let you know it's chambered, if you miss that what's the sense of the mag disconnect, you may as well put a blinking light on it.

gym
June 28, 2012, 10:23 PM
Captain, it took you like 15 minutes to pull that sucker out right? they come apart like legos. Not like the old steel guns. They gave me a padlock the key with the built in lock, the safety flange that almost blocks the sights, and a mag safety. Are we being treated like second graders or what.Just save it in case it has to go in for service. They will replace it and may refuse to work on the gun or charge you for re installing it.
Jerry: just get a 10 dollar set of punches from home depot, and a little ball peen hammer,"you don't even need a hammer", the entire chasis comes out, then you punch out the pin in the center of the trigger, and the trigger comes off, the little rectangle around the trigger area just lifts off with the little spring', Then you just re assemble it and no more mag saftey, several custom shopes have utube videos on a step by step "how to". Get one of thos dental picks they sell also to grab the spring in the bottom rear of the grip, to release the carriage, It helps in grabbing it to reinsatll it also. you can do it no problem,If you can clean a gun and put it back together, this ain't much harder.

EnglishmanInArizona
June 29, 2012, 04:36 AM
I like the pencil trick, thank you! Perhaps I should get one of those huge novelty pencils for checking shotguns...

Safer than snap caps or dummies as you don't need to bring a magazine anywhere near.

On the ersatz theme, a nail with the tip taken off works just fine for a punch if you want to save $10 for a once only job. Grind/file the tip flat, though - you don't want a point being driven into surrounding polymer bits if you slip.

Make sure you take the trigger off as Gym instructs - some of those YouTube videos show people prying the disconnect out and destroying the groove that it rests in. If you want to reinstall for any reason, it won't be as secure, and that certainly isn't a risk I'd want to take with a firearm.

Detail stripping firearms really is not as scary as it looks if you have guidance (book/video). I saw a recommendation to work inside a shoebox - I think that is genius. At least put a towel or something on the surface so that things don't bounce/roll if they fall out. Searching the garage for a spring that fell out of my father-in-law's inherited 16ga Model 12 from the 1920s that was his very first gun as a kid - I won't make that mistake again.

gym
June 29, 2012, 12:43 PM
The pencil trick I learned from my gunsmith uncle. I really is a great way of testing your gun. I have seen many posts where guys recommend firing a round, just to make sure everyting is functioning. This is an easier cleaner way of doing it. Especially when you play with 1911's and barrell lugs.
Watching that pencil fly out is always a nice feeling. I had a para that hit so hard that the pencil could have killed someone, lol, but it works.

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