Sig Choices


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Pistol Ranch
May 18, 2012, 11:46 PM
I am about to replace my Sig P6 that was stolen out of my truck by some derelict scumbag.
When I bought the P6, they were cheap (around $250) Now they are selling in the $450-500 range on GunBroker. The P225's are also going for about the same money.
I see a few P220's offered in the $675-750 range, way cheaper than others that go for in excess of $1000.
I cannot afford a $1000 pistol. If the choice was yours, would you opt for a P6, P225, or the relatively inexpensive P220??
I am a Sig fan and will not consider other brands.
Thanks for your input.

P.R.

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Zone15
May 18, 2012, 11:50 PM
I really like my P229, you should be able to find a good used P228 or P229 in your price range.

Sheepdog1968
May 18, 2012, 11:52 PM
My 220 is my favorite pistol. I've got over 10,000 rounds through it. If it was stolen I'd replace it without a second thought.

Stuttz
May 19, 2012, 12:06 AM
My SIG SP2022 is my go to handgun. The frame is polymer and it usually retails NIB around 400-450. It's a tack driver with no malfunctions and I don't hesitate to entrust my life to it. A lot of US police agencies, the French National Police, and the US Army Tank Command issue it, which is a testament to reliability.

Shuler13
May 19, 2012, 12:08 AM
I like my 226 mk25, but I intend to try out the 2022 real soon.

Shuler13
May 19, 2012, 12:09 AM
From what I can tell the 2022 has the same dimensions as the 229 sans 3 ounces and a few hundred less

Lonerider357
May 19, 2012, 12:17 AM
http://centerfiresystems.com/SIG-225.aspx

I would go for the Pro 2022 instead...
CDNN has them for $389

CharlieDeltaJuliet
May 19, 2012, 12:35 AM
I have a P220 and trust my life to it everyday. It is close to the feel of my 1911's. Me personally, I would never part with it. The polymer guns are great, just not for me. Trust me when I say this, the P220 is one of the better mass produced handguns. I have been through alot of them, and its hard to beat them. That being said they do cost a bit more than the 2022s. If you dont mind the polymer, I think you would be just fine with the 2022. I hear great things about them.

Triplec
May 19, 2012, 12:39 AM
There are a couple used p225/p6's on gunbroker right now for $450 (I know its more than they used to cost but still an ok price imo, all guns I've seen are going up in price). I just bought mine on gunbroker for $365 a month ago. You could wait and watch gunbroker for a little while and I'd bet a good deal will show up. If not, I'm going to agree with everybody that the 2022 would be a great budget option. The 2022 will be my next handgun purchase.

Girodin
May 19, 2012, 12:44 AM
I laugh every time I see someone asking $400+ for a sig P6. One can find a used P226 for that price. I would either look for a used P226 for that price (sarco had some) or I'd get one of the polymer guns. I've seen them online for as low as $350.

9mmepiphany
May 19, 2012, 01:41 AM
I've been a huge SIG fan for years and carried my 226 or 220 as a duty weapon for years.

For the best value in a new pistol, you can't beat the 2022 at < $400. The are very accurate and come out of the box with a very good DA trigger pull.

If you don't want polymer and don't mind buying used, the LE trade-in 226 or 228 is a great value at $45-$500. They'll have some exterior wear, but should be almost new inside...they usually will have a low round count

Another route is the SIG CPO program, which are factory reconditioned pistols...usually pistols they have bought back from LE agencies. My 220ST was a CPO gun and cost just over $600 a couple of years ago...they are currently about $650-$700

sigarms228
May 19, 2012, 11:07 AM
I have to agree about the SP2022. Fantastic pistol at fantastic price. Since you already like SIG pistols IMO a SP2022 would be a no brainer for you.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/firearms/sig-sauer-sp2022-pro-9mm.html

rellascout
May 19, 2012, 11:57 AM
I love my SP2022 but it is very different than the other P Series Sigs in my hands. The DA pull is very smooth but is longer than the classic P series guns and I find that the SA pull is much further back in the stroke than say the P228. For me it handles differently than other Sigs.

Also I would be interested to know if people see performance and reliability differences between the older German SP2022s and the current Exeter Production.

The older German guns were an absolute steal at their $400 price tag with 3 mags, night sights and Xeroxed manual all in a nice small nice black box. LOL These days it is hard to find them under $400 with night sights and 1 mag. I have actually seen their price rising about 10% in recent months.

If it were looking to replace my stolen P6 I would look for a used P228. Robertsons has a ton of refinished P228s for about $570. I personally do not like to buy refinished guns sight unseen but they have a decent rep. I would also consider the COP route. They are out there in all sorts of flavors for right around $600.

boomhower1820
May 19, 2012, 12:17 PM
First, stop leaving guns in your vehicle. People don't realize how many folks g killed from stolen guns, most of which are taken out of cars. Of the listed options I'd go with the 220.


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sigarms228
May 19, 2012, 12:29 PM
Summit Gun Broker also has some used P226s for sale at the link below for $450.

http://www.summitgunbroker.com/226_9mm.html

rellascout
May 19, 2012, 12:43 PM
Summit Gun Broker also has some used P226s for sale at the link below for $450.

http://www.summitgunbroker.com/226_9mm.html

Those look like they were rode hard and put away wet... :what:

If you could check the internals they could be a steal and perfect candidate for a refinish.

hAkron
May 19, 2012, 07:47 PM
Last year I bought a Certified Pre-Owned Sig P229 in .40 with 2 factory mags in 100% condition for $500 (or maybe $550). CPO is a good deal if you must have a Sig

Girodin
May 19, 2012, 08:12 PM
People don't realize how many folks g killed from stolen guns, most of which are taken out of cars.

While I personally wouldn't make a habit of leaving a gun in my car, do you have any evidence to support your assertions?

Girodin
May 19, 2012, 08:15 PM
Those look like they were rode hard and put away wet...

They have holster wear but don't really look much worse than many of the surplus P6s I've seen. I'd rather have a used P226 with holster wear than a used P6 with holster wear, particularly when the price difference is so little.

Walking Dead
May 19, 2012, 08:21 PM
My USA made SP2022 has been nothing but flawless. At under $400 how can you go wrong.

wild cat mccane
May 19, 2012, 08:27 PM
had a gun stolen out of my car.

Completely agree. It is totally irresponsible to leave a gun in a car. After the experience I firmly believe it should be a crime for the original owner. Unlike a home that requires some extra risk and danger to the thief, a car takes seconds to break into and take everything in it.

Like I said, I have had one stolen out of my car. It is just stupid to put one there.

el Godfather
May 19, 2012, 11:41 PM
P220, or a slightly used 220 Elite?

CZguy
May 19, 2012, 11:55 PM
Quote:
Summit Gun Broker also has some used P226s for sale at the link below for $450.

http://www.summitgunbroker.com/226_9mm.html

Those look like they were rode hard and put away wet...

If you could check the internals they could be a steal and perfect candidate for a refinish.

I bought a used P 226 from Widener's a month ago for $475.00 that looks just like the one in the link on the right.

It's well worn on the outside, and you can tell it's been shot quite a bit, but it has a lot of life left in it. :)

And I kind of like having a good pistol that I can wear on long hikes and not worry about the finish.

sigarms228
May 20, 2012, 09:35 AM
First, stop leaving guns in your vehicle. People don't realize how many folks g killed from stolen guns, most of which are taken out of cars.

So what is a law abiding citizen supposed to do who wants to protect himself while driving in his vehicle? Many times a destination does not allow one to carry their firearm with them which could be work, a sporting event, shopping, eating, etc.

There are also those who say/deman you should not be able to ever have a firearm in your dwelling except locked in a firearm safe for the same reason where the only reason to take it from the safe would be to take it hunting or to the gun range.

Pistol Ranch
May 20, 2012, 10:50 AM
Wild cat mccane makes his mind up WITHOUT knowing all the facts.:cuss: Kinda like the news media and Trayvon Martin.
Sigarms 228 has it correct.
My choices were to travel unarmed or armed. I chose the latter.
Irresponsible action? I think not. The theft was immediately reported to the police..ALONG WITH THE PISTOL'S SERIAL NUMBER.
Makes you wonder if gun shop owners are "irresponsible" when theives break into their place of business and steal their inventoty. Nuff said.

P.R.

Girodin
May 20, 2012, 02:42 PM
Makes you wonder if gun shop owners are "irresponsible" when theives break into their place of business and steal their inventoty

If they left it in the front window where someone could easily get it in a very quick smash and grab I would say yes.


So what is a law abiding citizen supposed to do who wants to protect himself while driving in his vehicle?

Well anchored car safe maybe? They can be defeated but, it takes much more effort, and they go a long ways towards preventing smash and grabs. I have one in my convertible

My choices were to travel unarmed or armed. I chose the latter.
Irresponsible action?

Do we measure that by the results? How long did you leave the car unattended? How long was the trip? What was the realistic threat of traveling without a gun? Where did you park your car and what options were available. What security measures did you take with respect to your car? What is prevalence of car break ins where you went. Personally I can tell you that I have had my car broken into, MANY more times than I have needed a gun for self defense. I think there is still incomplete information but your argument thus far I find wanting. Sometimes protecting against the more realistic threats is better.

There are also those who say/deman you should not be able to ever have a firearm in your dwelling except locked in a firearm safe for the same reason where the only reason to take it from the safe would be to take it hunting or to the gun range

A car and a house are themselves distinguishable. Also this statement blurs the line between what is best practice when one is home versus away. Personally if I am away I think a gun safe is a much much more secure place for guns. If I am home the dynamic is very different. The same is true of a gun in the car. If I'm in it there is very different than if I plan to leave it unattended for a long time. I think the same for other valuables as well.

Those who would not let you have a gun out of a safe in your home when you are there and the gun is under your immediate control take a position that is radically different than saying leaving a gun otherwise unsecured in your car for an extended period is best avoided.

I'm sure I'm totally wrong. Of course I've never had a gun stolen (despite multiple car break ins and even a residential burglary).

sigarms228
May 20, 2012, 03:30 PM
Well anchored car safe maybe? They can be defeated but, it takes much more effort, and they go a long ways towards preventing smash and grabs. I have one in my convertible

NO THANKS. I would want quick access to my firearm when returning to my car as that is often the most vulnerable time for robery or a car jacking and I don't want to have to be messing with opening a safe for access to it. One may think that is easy to do but seconds can count and under high stress opening a safe would be the last thing I want to do. Car thieves could very well just rip/cut out the safe and open it later at their leisure time anyhow.

Girodin
May 20, 2012, 05:29 PM
Where are you going to put it that is even remotely secure that takes less time to get to it? I could access mine as quickly as say my glove box or center console.

Car thieves could very well just rip/cut out the safe and open it later at their leisure time anyhow.

Any security measure can be defeated is someone is determined. However, most car burglaries cases I've were simple smash and grabs, not people looking to put a lot of effort or time into task.

sigarms228
May 20, 2012, 06:56 PM
Where are you going to put it that is even remotely secure that takes less time to get to it? I could access mine as quickly as say my glove box or center console.

Yeah right - good for you. I refuse to take that chance. If it makes you feel better for your circumstances than by all means do it.

Pistol Ranch
May 20, 2012, 07:17 PM
Why do I get the feeling that one of the responders to this thread has read too many "Guns for Dummies" books:confused:

skeeziks
May 20, 2012, 08:49 PM
When a woman has her purse stolen out of a unattended car, she gets what she deserves.
When someone has their gun stolen out of a unattended car, they get the same....

I feel the need to be armed while in my car more so then at most any other time.
But when I exit the car...the gun goes with me!

Girodin
May 21, 2012, 12:57 AM
Yeah right - good for you. I refuse to take that chance.

No seriously where are you putting it that it is so much faster to access? I'm genuinely curious.

YJake
May 21, 2012, 01:22 AM
Friend bought an SP2022 in 9mm and I like it for what it is honestly, It shoots fine especially for the price but the magazines are pricey and his came with only one. Just buy the gun and enjoy, otherwise if a $600 CPO P220 or P226 is within budget, that works too! ;)

-Jake

WaywardSon
May 21, 2012, 02:07 AM
A few months ago I bought a P220 police trade in for $450 with 3 mags. Gun had some holster wear but nothing major. The inside looked great & it might be the best shooting auto I ever picked up. I love this pistol & would buy another without hesitation.

FM12
May 21, 2012, 06:54 PM
220/45ACP, THE hammer of THOR!! Thank me later.

coiler666
May 22, 2012, 09:19 AM
I hate scumbags!!! Sorry bout ya luck, but hope ya find ya a new Sig soon sir:)

pat701
May 23, 2012, 08:52 AM
Look online for some Sig CPO pistols, they are like new from the factory.

boomhower1820
May 23, 2012, 02:03 PM
Proof as in some article I can link you can read? No. Seen the results my self, yep. Someone breaking in your house and stealing is a whole different ballgame than a smash and grab out of your car. If you have you had the gun secured in the car and they defeated the car safe or broke it out, well you did what you could. If you had it stashed under the seat, in console or glove box, then that was irresponsible. When your the one seeing guys gurgling up blood riddled with bullet holes your perception may change.

skt239
May 23, 2012, 06:06 PM
If the cost of ammo is not an issue or you reload, the P220.

ICouldn'tThinkOfaName
May 23, 2012, 09:08 PM
Buds has some police trade in 220's right now for $530. Seems like a decent deal

franconialocal
May 24, 2012, 12:15 AM
Carried a P-220 for nine years on duty, off duty. A bit full size for concealed carry, in which case (esp. in summer with light clothing) I step down to my 9mm Sig P-228.

Okiegunner
May 24, 2012, 09:39 PM
I have a poly Sig 2340. It is a state police trade-in. I really, really, like this pistol. Fantastic trigger.

Having said this, I would like to have a more traditional Sig (226). It is hard to budget for one. Just to run this by you guys, ok?

Sarco has some (I'm told Isreali trade-ins) P226s for sale. Good condition $325. Now we all know what a "good" condition gun from Sarco will look like. That really does not bother me too much. It is function I am concerned about. Here is where I'm going with this:

Sig service plan fron SigArms in Exeter. $144.95. They will fully diassemble the pistol. Detail clean. Inspect the critical componets. Replace recoil springs, slide catch lever, trigger bar, and decocking lever. Completely reassemble and lubricate to factory specs. Install Sig-Light factory night sights.

I do not know what shipping would run, but it seems to me that this would be a way to have a very nice, factory inspected and worked on, Sig 226 for a pretty decent price. All things considered.

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