[Johnny Lightning]

I have a glock 17 that i want to squeeze as much accuracy out of as possible. What mods have you done to your glocks that has made them more accurate?

[Creature]

Um, its a glock. Not sniper rifle.

There isn't that much you can do to make a glock mechanically more accurate. Maybe an aftermarket barrel, but that is not cost effective since the stock barrel is pretty accurate already. Have you put your glock in a ransom rest to see what kind of accuracy it is capable of?

That leaves making you more accurate. Which involves making the gun more comfortable to grip and to shoot. Not much in the way of options there...unless you want to pay for some of the crazier polymer frame "chop" mods I have seen.

Or...you could just purchase a lot of ammo and shoot it a lot. I have found that practice always helps improve accuracy.

[Sapper771]

If one is accuracy obsessed, the Glock may not be the best platform. I would recommend a 1911.

If your stuck on Glock and want better accuracy, I would look at the Glock 34 or 17L. A fitted after market Bar-Sto barrel would help, especially if it were fitted by them.

There are numerous trigger options out now. Vanek, Glockworx Fulcrum, and Ghost Inc. Are good ones that I use now or have used in the past.

Hand loading/reloading will help you milk all the accuracy out of your Glock. I have never known my Glocks to ever be ammo sensitive, but they can be a PITA to develop loads for.

Good Luck

[ku4hx]

It's a combat weapon with combat accuracy. By the time you've done all the things you can possibly find on the internet, and suggested by your buds, you may have spent what you'd need to spend for a good target pistol.

There's a certain amount of truth in the old saying, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear".

Re: Creature "Or...you could just purchase a lot of ammo and shoot it a lot. I have found that practice always helps improve accuracy."
+1 Truer words have never been spoken.

[777TRUTH]

If one is accuracy obsessed, the Glock may not be the best platform. I would recommend a 1911.

If your stuck on Glock and want better accuracy, I would look at the Glock 34 or 17L.

Hand loading/reloading will help you milk all the accuracy out of your Glock. I have never known my Glocks to ever be ammo sensitive, but they can be a PITA to develop loads for.

Sapper771 nailed it.

[Mr.454]

You need to find a gunsmith who would be willing to fit a barrel to your gun and tighten things up. Also could buy a slide and barrel for a glock 34 and slap it on yours to get a longer sight radius. if the army could work over the M9 for their marksmanship team then you could find some one to overhaul your glock.

[Manny]

i haven't done any mods on my 17L & 34 but as already noted a barsto barrel is probably the biggest contributor. Also get your trigger worked to be as smooth and consistant as possible and install the sights that work best for your eyes. I don't know that there is much or anything that can be done with slide to frame fit with the stock frame, but one of the glock specialist gunsmiths should be able to answer that issue for you.

You would probably be best served by going to the after market metal frame as the added rigidity would probably help with both the frame/slide fit and is known to help give the best trigger performance. A long slide may also help as well, I have no 17 but a 34 & 17L as the additional sighting radius help me see the front sight substantially better. If you get to this level however you may as well leave your 17 as is & build from scratch or sell it to fund your "Super Glock" project.

[robinkevin]

If you want a high capacity semi auto that is simple and goes bang everytime then go Glock or other of the many that have follow their foot steps.

Want a accurate semi auto and maintain high capacity but a little less simple then Hi Power or one of it's followers/clones such as CZ 75 (not a hi power but takes a lot from it).

Don't care so much about capacity just want a accurate semi auto that will get the job done, done greater in that department than the famous and time proven 1911.

Lastly if you are truely "accuracy obsessed" then get a revolver and never look back. They don't have the capacity of semi autos or the thin profile making them joys to carry but they go bang everytime and there is none more accurate in single action firing.

Just my 2 cents worth and break down of handguns based off the view point of the "accuracy obsessed". Of course you can spend a ton of money on making a Glock something that it was never meant to be but really then you just might loose what makes Glock so great.

[Johnny Lightning]

Ok point taken....its like putting a pig in a tux. I am going to polish the internals and change out the 5.5# connector to a 3.5# connector but other then that I will leave it alone. It already has new Tru Glo Tfo sights and a hogue grip that in my opinion are better then stock. I already have a 1911 that has been modified and is very accurate and a 6" Dan Wesson .357 that is also very accurate. I just wanted to see if anyone else has even tried or succeeded in accurizing a Glock...guess not.

[hentown]

How accurate do you want your Glock to shoot? What are your expectations? It'll never be a bullseye gun, but you might not be able to shoot 2" groups at 50 yds anyhow.

My G17 has a 2 3/8# trigger pull. I shoot it pretty well. I do pretty well with all my Glocks, out to 100 yds. Never tried farther than that, due to the limitations of our local range.

[Creature]

Renowned for reliability, the Glock is no slouch when it comes to accuracy. I think you need to put your Glock into a ransom rest before you write it off in terms of "not accurate enough". You will be very surprised at just how accurate your glock really is.

Glocks are easily capable of 1.5" groups or better at 25 yards.

In Chuck Taylor's well documented 100K round torture test, his Glock 17 with 75K rounds through it still kept tight groups...in the ransom rest, the groups were still 2" or better at 35 meters.

http://membres.multimania.fr/shooter/glock/glock4.html

[Johnny Lightning]

I have never put any of my pistols in a ramsom rest to check their accuracy which sounds like a good idea. Would I have to purchase a ransom rest or do some ranges have them for rent? If I would be purchasing one which brand is the best...new territory for me. The reason I wanted to mod my glock for more accuracy is because I want a super accurate 9mm and I already own the G17. Guess I sould look at purchasing another 9mm...maybe a CZ 75b thats tricked out.

[jmr40]

Buy lots of ammo. The more you shoot it, the more accurate you will be with it.

[Jim Watson]

How accurate is it NOW?
Off a sandbag rest at say 25 yards.
Compared to your other guns under the same conditions.

The most important improvement in a stock pistol is to give it good ammo. Econo ball is not the best for accuracy; a good JHP like Federal 9BP or Hornady XTP will usually do better.

[Johnny Lightning]

I noticed something strange about the metal internals in my glock today. Almost all of the metal parts are peeling metal?!! The rails on the back of the frame are the worst and I noticed spots on the piece under the extractor is pretty bad too. Has anyone else ever seen this? I did buy it used and am not sure if it was that way when I purchased it or if it was something that has happened over time. And this was before i started to polish the metal pieces.

[bds]

What mods have you done to your glocks that has made them more accurate?
If you are shooting factory ammo, consider reloading your own "match grade" ammo. When I first started match shooting, I tried several factory ammo and used S&B/PMC for a balance of accuracy and cost. When I started reloading, my shot groups shrank by 50%.

My standards for "match grade" ammo:
Bullet weight variance less than 1 gr - Montana Gold jacketed bullets
Powder charge variance less than .1 gr (preferably <.05 gr) - W231/HP-38, Bullseye, Titegroup, WST, Universal, WSF, HS-6, AutoComp.
Primers - Winchester/CCI


The reason I wanted to mod my glock for more accuracy is because I want a super accurate 9mm and I already own the G17. Guess I sould look at purchasing another 9mm
I am on my third G17 (Gen3) and my factory stock pistol (no aftermarket parts) averages 1" shot groups at 15 yards off hand with match grade ammo. If you need greater accuracy than that, I would suggest the 25 cent Glock trigger job and check out this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIzjFcB6t7s&feature=related


I noticed something strange about the metal internals in my glock today. Almost all of the metal parts are peeling metal?!! The rails on the back of the frame are the worst and I noticed spots on the piece under the extractor is pretty bad too. Has anyone else ever seen this? I did buy it used and am not sure if it was that way when I purchased it or if it was something that has happened over time.
I don't subscribe to the notion of "Glocks never need cleaning". All of my Glocks get field stripped and barrels cleaned after each range trip with 6-point lube job. Once a year, slides and frames get disassembled to individual components and parts are inspected and replaced as necessary. I would do a thorough cleaning of your Glock and replace parts as necessary. If you are not sure of the wear, consult a local Glock armorer.

Here's a Hickok45 video on Glock cleaning (I use Hoppes #9 solvent and BreakFree CLP or Synthetic motor oil for lube) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZf4mUM10Vc

Hickok45 video on slide disassembly - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VTIqAMPOco&feature=relmfu


If you need a refresher on pistol shooting accuracy:

Stance - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Cf0WEeXZk&feature=relmfu
Grip - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22msLVCtPk8&feature=relmfu
Trigger Control - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xa5JPLGIsU&feature=relmfu
Trigger and grip tips - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on2ikAwROTI&feature=relmfu

[el Godfather]

Well, I used to have Glock 17 and it has every possible thing one can place on it from trigger system, connector, sights, springs, mag and slide releases and what not.

At the end it was a great gun but when mu Czechmate arrived it made G17 obsolete for me.

[kg7il]

I had a glock 17 and agreed that the accuracy should be improved.

I made one little change or swap-out. After assuring that the glock 17 was unloaded, I replaced it with a 1911 .45 ACP.

My targets look much better now and I didn't have to make any modifications to the Glock.

[9mmepiphany]

It already has new Tru Glo Tfo sights and a hogue grip that in my opinion are better then stock.
... I just wanted to see if anyone else has even tried or succeeded in accurizing a Glock...guess not.
The best thing you can do to improve a Glock's accuracy is replace the barrel with a Bar-Sto one fitted by them. It will make a very noticable difference, but it will be a bit more sensitive to ammo. A cleaned up and lightened trigger will also help. You'll see a huge difference, if you replace the sights with an all black set.

I had a chance to shoot one like this a while ago and it was amazing. The owner was getting < 5" handheld groups at 50 yards. It wasn't quite tight enough for him, so he replaced it with a SIG X-5 Allaround, which will hold 3" groups at that range...it will shoot 1.10" groups off a rest at that distance.

Truthfully, the best thing you can do to increase your accuracy is get some instruction on the technique of seeing the sights faster and trigger management

[C0untZer0]

Get a Glock 17L

I love mine :)

[Johnny Lightning]

I clean and lube my glock every other time at the range or after shooting alot in one session . Has anyone ever seen the metal parts on their glocks flake a shiny outer layer of metal off?

[C0untZer0]

Not me...

I've had brass shavings, and brass grit in the slide before - but not metal flaking off the Glock.

[stonecutter2]

I clean and lube my glock every other time at the range or after shooting alot in one session . Has anyone ever seen the metal parts on their glocks flake a shiny outer layer of metal off?
My Glock 19 has some peeling/bubbling on some metal pieces. Has never affected it. I suspect they coat the metal with something that rubs off over time...but some wear gradually while others flake/bubble.

Take a pic and email Glock if it worries you...post any info if you get some insight.

[coalman]

Glocks are accruate blasters, more so than most shooters, but IMO keep Glock accuracy expectations realistic. The best "mod" I run for my range Glock is a 3.5# new style Lone Wolf trigger bar. Very smooth. I keep SD guns stock.

[Johnny Lightning]

Even if it is just that thin amt of metal coating coming off, wont that most likely affect the reliability of the pistol? So far mine has been 100% but seeing metal coming off has me a little concerned. My g26 has none of the metal pieces peeling like my g17....both are gen 3 also.

[stonecutter2]

Even if it is just that thin amt of metal coating coming off, wont that most likely affect the reliability of the pistol? So far mine has been 100% but seeing metal coming off has me a little concerned. My g26 has none of the metal pieces peeling like my g17....both are gen 3 also.
My Glock 19 gen4 has been 100% reliable, with a couple thousand rounds through it. Whether the metal thing impacts reliability down the line, i don't know. So far no bad has come from it for me - it got to a point and stopped doing it. Glock would be the one to talk to if you're concerned.