[marklbucla]

Am I the only one being being "paranoid", or are other Kalifornians putting more money in their gun purchasing budget based on the potental for laws changing?

I've already bought a 9mm 1911 soon after SB489 came out. I also got a PC9 because I figured it was either buy it now or buy it later, so why not now? Either the CZ PCR/P01 or FAB-10 will be next on the shopping list for the immediate future.

[Black Majik]

I'll partially agree to basing my gun purchases based on the restrictions and laws.

The one I see coming up soon is a ban on some sort of bolt action rifle because of all those "sniper cases".

Therefore, next on my list is a... bolt action rifle :o

[Psssniper]

I buy as much as I can as often as I can regardless of whats brewing in the lawmakers cesspool. Of course I am limited to the one handgun per 30 days rule.

Last 2 months list:

Hk USP Expert .45
Winchester 30-30
Kel-Tec Su-16
Beretta Tomcat

[Sydwaiz]

The threat of AB-50 scared me into buying a Windrunner. An M96 might be next. Of course I should probably be stocking up on handguns without stupid features before '06. Hmmm, which 1911 to get?

[marklbucla]

Bolt Action Rifles!?

This doesn't make me too happy either. Since it doesn't look like there are any in 9mm, I'll just keep my search down to a .22LR. Hopefully those won't be included in the next raping of the 2nd amendment.

[Valkman]

I put some money into my U-Haul budget and moved in September to Las Vegas! Did wonders for my gun buying choices. :D

[Black Majik]

I think I should re-phrase my response. The one I see likely to come up eventually is a ban on bolt action rifles. That is just my opinion though.

Its california... laws here are unpredictable. :(

[Telperion]

Well, I'm still so pissed off about the HSC I haven't bought a handgun since 2002. Maybe I'll get over it.

[Pendragon]

Wow!

I remember when I used to check the approved list for interesting additions.

If I was still there, I would look for guns I liked that do not have the mag interlock or chamber indicator - for me, I would make sure I had all the 1911s I wanted.

Of course, since I moved, I am dead broke - but its nice to know that when things pickup, I can buy whatever I want - and CCW it...

[Beetle Bailey]

I'm not so far gone that I will buy guns I otherwise wouldn't, but I am reconsidering what to get first. I'm afraid we'll lose the right to buy the few remaining semi-auto rifles we are currently allowed, so I am investigating my options regarding the M1 Garand.

More than simply a "bolt-action rifle" I think the next one on the anti-gun hit-list is any .50 BMG rifle :uhoh: . Think about how evil and black that rifle is. Pretty much useless for robbing liquor stores :rolleyes: , but one look at a .50 BMG cartridge and a few scary words like "This thing ain't even meant for shooting humans, it's for taking out armored vehicles!" will nevertheless endanger the .50 BMG :scrutiny: .

As cool as the experience was the one time I got to shoot a .50 BMG (thanks 50 Shooter ;) ), it probably isn't for me. So while I oppose any ban on the .50 BMG, I won't be in the market to pick one up.

FYI, IINM, the CZ75 PCR is being discontinued by CZ and replaced with the P-01 so if you want a PCR, you need to act soon.

[rayra]

"or are other Kalifornians putting more money in their gun purchasing budget based on the potental for laws changing?"

absolutely. since '89.

[chaim]

I'm not from CA, but being from equally stupid and restrictive MD I think I can answer this. I have bought guns based on laws on the books but not in effect and laws that looked likely to pass in the near future. After the MD built-in lock law was passed but before it went into effect I accelerated my handgun buying to get as many of the guns I wanted without the locks as I could, but I didn't buy anything I didn't eventually plan to get- it only effected when I got it. Same with my AR, I bought an AR almost 2 months ago because SB288, an assault weapons ban that's possibly more restrictive than yours, looked very likely to pass. I would have bought one anyway, but probably not for another year or two (I have other short-term gun priorities above the AR).

[DJ E.]

Posted by Black Majik

I'll partially agree to basing my gun purchases based on the restrictions and laws.

The one I see coming up soon is a ban on some sort of bolt action rifle because of all those "sniper cases".

Therefore, next on my list is a... bolt action rifle


My goodness, I think if this ever happens I'm going for dead broke just to get the hell outta here:banghead:

[Black Majik]

DJ E.,

I'm not saying it would happen, but it definitely could. If it did... I know I'd be broke too cuz I'd move out of California also!

Thing is, I've grown up in California... its basically all that I know. I love the weather, the women and the city... but something about having shall issue CCW, able to purchase as many AR-15's as I want and able to have a damn P22 would make me move out of California.

Plus taxes and fees here are absolutely rediculous!

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Truthfully I can say 'no', pending legislation doesn't effect my buying decisions.

Maybe I'm just weird, but there is really *nothing* new on the market that does anything for me. Now, the handgun testing law has really bugged me 'cause I collect older S&W revolvers, and they're getting harder to find and more expensive also.

[LASur5r]

My gun collecting revolves around our Kalifornia gun laws and what is coming up.
When I get some funds and start getting into the mood to get a new toy, I look at the California handgun approved list first above all other things, then I start doing research on some potential purchases based on that list or when that gun might be approved by our illustrious leaders.
I got stuck a couple of times because I jumped the gun or I ordered a stainless model and only the blued model was approved (can you see that?) Same exact gun but one was approved.
That's why I'm vowing to myself that I am getting out of this state as soon as I retire. I fought the good fight but there are too many idiot politicians here that want to take away our guns.
I want to retire in relative peace.

[Shalako]

What royally sucks is California's tendency to sell something to you that is legal at one point, and then affectively ban it later and/or require registration, a la SB23. So how bad did you really want that thing you just bought and do you want to willingly cough it up on demand, sell it out of state, or bury it? Since none of those options are acceptable, one has to really tiptoe into any gun purchases in this state. Soon, only lever actions will be a safe purchase around here...

[Amadeus]

Well, I'm still so pissed off about the HSC I haven't bought a handgun since 2002

Sounds like you're giving them exactly what they want. The "deterrant" has worked.

So here we are fearful of potential new laws and bans. Sure we can go ahead and pad our gun collections -- no harm in that. But what ELSE are we going to do about it to ensure that bans on .50s, bolt actions, and whatever other bans the legislature dreams up are STOPPED COLD!?

[simon]

I agree,its only going to get worse.Mini14's will be next,as well as garands and any other semi,but I just don't see that bolt guns will be in anyones sights,pun intended.The Hunters would be up in arms(again),and the weak sister(NRA) would probably step up to the plate on this.It sets a bad precident,and all members would scream bloody murder, as the NRA has all this time been on the side of the hunter,hunters rights,etc.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

Actually, back in '99 I would have bet good money that semi-auto shotguns would have been next. Glad to see that I was wrong, but yeah, I can see the M1A, Mini 14 et al, going next.

God, I hope I'm wrong again.

[dav]

It's already too late. I can no longer buy any of the guns that I currently want, simply because I live in Kalifornia.

What I AM trying to do is figure out how to legally buy the stuff I want and keep it out of state, before it becomes federally banned.

Is it possible to legally buy and not take possession until you are living where possession is legal?

[Valkman]

Thing is, I've grown up in California... its basically all that I know. I love the weather, the women and the city... but something about having shall issue CCW, able to purchase as many AR-15's as I want and able to have a damn P22 would make me move out of California.

Was the same way with me - born in SF, lived in Daly City until '65, then in Alameda Co., then near Sacramento for about the last 20 years.

The only thing I miss is the motorcycle riding - that was much better in No. CA. than it is here. Here I have CCW, no NICS check when I buy a gun (with the CCW), buy as many as I want, buy what kind I want, and no state tax.

Is it possible to legally buy and not take possession until you are living where possession is legal?

I made a deal with a guy for 2 Kimbers while I still lived in CA - he was in no hurry to sell. So I sent him a deposit, and he held the guns for me. After I moved to Vegas I paid him the rest and he sent the guns.

That's about the best you can do, because if it's not legal to sell the guns in CA they can't sell them to you and then hold them. Through regular sources you'd have to live somewhere else first, then buy th guns. Don't worry, there'll still be lots of guns by the time you move. :)

[Black_Talon]

I'm buying ammo. They keep trying that damn 5¢ per round tax. One of these days it'll go through.

[simon]

I'm doing that too, and adding a gun into the mix once in a while.

[Sydwaiz]

I'm buying ammo. They keep trying that damn 5¢ per round tax. One of these days it'll go through.

If it does go through, I'll be making road trips to AZ and load my truck up!

[riverdog]

If the ammo tax goes thru I'll be making a one way road trip out of state and California's gun laws will be history.

[Beetle Bailey]

a "5 cent ammo tax per round" would still kill the local gun dealers, they are hurting as it is. Last time I talked to one of the local gun dealers, he was lamenting "Those :cuss: :cuss: make my life so miserable. . ." 5 cents per round will probably kill my plans to get a .22lr rifle :fire: . I think it is time to try to convert another would-be gunny this weekend. ;)

[marklbucla]

CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP!

I didn't expect to see this come into play for at least another year or so. I missed the cutoff by a mere two weeks on that Walther P22 I've been eyeing!

I'm dyin' here!!!!!!!!

Seriously, what am I gonna get my GF now? The DA trigger pull on the S&W and Ruger .22LR revolvers were too much even for me and the only other gun she liked the feel of was the P22....

[Skunkabilly]

Mark,

Call Firearms Training Associates at 714.701.9918 or go to www.ftatv.com

Cheryl has a ladies' self-defense course which covers a lot of stuff that isn't covered in the general defensive courses that are female-specific. I suggest you enroll Jasmin in that so she can learn marksmanship, tactics and most importantly, mindset, before you set out to purchase any more guns? Bill has a buttload of guns she can try and see what she likes--only so much you can get a feel for at Turner's....

[marklbucla]

If it were that easy, then we would have done that already. It's hard enough to get her to go to the range with me as it is.

At this point, I'm (we're) just recreational shooting- like mini-golf or bowling.

[Topgun]

The percussion cap is the choice of criminals worldwide. So, for that reason, I am introducing SB 6969 to ban the sale of these killer guns.

Dianne Finestool


:o

[Sydwaiz]

The percussion cap is the choice of criminals worldwide. So, for that reason, I am introducing SB 6969 to ban the sale of these killer guns.

Go ahead. I'm stock piling flints instead.

All this talk is making me want to buy a gun this weekend...