I was just wondering what are some really lightweight long guns on the market for the "this-is-too-heavy" type shooter?
Specifically, I'm thinking of someone who finds my Mossberg 930 SPX to be too heavy (although I wonder if it would make a difference if it didn't have an extended magazine). It is 7.5 pounds, and from what I understand most defensive long guns are in the 6.5-7.5 range.
What is out there for self-defense long guns that is very lightweight? Including PCCs, .410s, etc.
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May 24, 2012, 04:18 PM
mini14 m1carbine leverguns
May 24, 2012, 04:21 PM
Rossi M92 (http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=179&category=8&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=)- 8+1 of .357 mag that come out of that barrel with comparable energy to a .30-30. Weighs 4.8lbs according to the website. I haven't actually weighed mine.
May 24, 2012, 04:53 PM
Oh, I like that 19-3.
Memphis, Mini-14 is still 6.75-7 lb. I think I'll look at that Rossi M92.
May 24, 2012, 05:43 PM
Most leverguns are actually quite heavy. My 30-30's weigh as much or more than my 300 mag. Some of the pistol caliber levers are fairly light. Lots of AR's in the 6-6.5 lb range.
A 20 ga 870 will be around 6-6.5 lb in a shotgun, but buckshot will be wicked in a gun that light.
May 24, 2012, 06:06 PM
A typical .308 scout rifle can comes in at 6-7 lbs without scope. Mine is about 7 3/4 lbs with scope. It is a delicate balance of "weight vs. power vs. recoil" when choosing a lightweight rifle. You can go lighter, but you will probably either sacrifice range and knockdown, or take a bit more recoil.
May 24, 2012, 07:18 PM
Ithaca M37 Featherlite
May 24, 2012, 07:53 PM
CZ 527 carbine, .223 or 7.62x39mm and a hair over 5lbs.
May 24, 2012, 07:53 PM
Basic pencil-barrel AR-15 with the plastic A2 furniture and no add ons.
May 24, 2012, 07:55 PM
Are you specifically asking for self-defense long guns? If not, The Franchi 48 AL is about the lightest semi-auto shotgun you'll find, at least for under a grand. The 12 is light but the 20 seems almost too light to work. But it works. I haven't handled a 28 yet.
The M1 Carbine is also quite feathery if you don't put a bunch of crap on it.
May 24, 2012, 08:23 PM
Quote= "The Franchi 48 AL is about the lightest semi-auto shotgun you'll find, at least for under a grand. The 12 is light but the 20 seems almost too light to work. But it works. I haven't handled a 28 yet."
My 28-ga. 48 AL, that I so stupidly sold, was one of the best balanced repeaters that I've ever shot. She was a beaut! I bought it back in 1982 and sold it in 1989. I miss her alot.
May 24, 2012, 08:37 PM
Just remember, that the lighter you go, the more the recoil increases
May 24, 2012, 09:14 PM
Model 92 in Rossi, clone copy's or Winchester are very light 5.5 Lbs or so. Good pistol round lever gun. .357 , 45 colt 44 mag. You may even find a 454 cas.
May 24, 2012, 09:23 PM
Self defense specific, yes.
May 24, 2012, 09:27 PM
A lever action carbine is light, and in a pistol caliber will not recoil badly.
But swinging the lever takes significant effort.
If the user has trouble picking it up he/she will have trouble cranking the action.
May 24, 2012, 11:39 PM
Keltec SU16 in .223.
May 24, 2012, 11:49 PM
The Beretta CX-4 storm is 5.68 lbs. Pistol caliber, but you'll get more velocity out of the rounds with a rifle-length barrel and recoil shouldn't be an issue.
May 25, 2012, 12:07 AM
I don't have the exact weight, but any caliber of KelTec sub 2000 is really light. That is, if you don't bolt any stuff onto it. I think that they would Mary a handy SD gun.
May 25, 2012, 03:29 AM
M1 carbine 5.2lbs empty. Will give anything within 100yds reason to leave you alone.
May 25, 2012, 08:07 AM
I have an AR-15 with a PCF lower assembly and a Stag arms 3H flattop. Weighs 5.92 with a 1x4 Leupold scope.
May 25, 2012, 11:03 AM
Keltec SU 16 is lightweight. Pistol-caliber leverguns, surprisingly, very lightweight.
In the original magazine-tube configuration (4 + 1), the 930 is very handy, and familiar. Not much lighter, but the balance changes significantly, for the better. I'd prefer the handling characteristics of the the semi-auto sg (traditional rifle/sg stock, ample forend to hold onto), simple controls, quicker (for me) to find the bead and shoulder and point. 930 HD SEC is a cheaper option, less bells/whistles (regular bead, no dot-sights, no rails).
Much of the choice may depend on other considerations (layout of house, urban/suburban/rural, distances, backstops, potential threat probabilities, available funds). I'd be happy to be have any one of those options (930, SU 16C, Marlin/Rossi in .44 or .357) for HD.
May 25, 2012, 12:05 PM
Chiappa's `92 Winchester/20" in 357Mag, 6.2lbs
Lightest/smoothest carbine/rifle I own, w/ a solid Patridge style ladder sight
May 25, 2012, 02:04 PM
A1 upper w/pencil barrel on a Cav Arms lower. About 5 lbs. With a GI web sling and it will consistently hit a 20" 'D' target at 300 yards. Everything you need, nothing you don't.