[doc540]

Well, maybe not pre-election, but it showed up in a local ad with 3 mags, and 200 rounds of ammo.

Why not?:o

cheap, rattles and shoots
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/AK47/AK2.jpg

[S&W620]

Can't beat that!

Congrats!

[whetrock]

What make is that ? ( you'll have to excuse me I'm an AK newb). Also if it was a private transfer I can't say I blame you for the purchase. I hate to sound paranoid, but in all seriousness who can for tell what the future ( particularly on capital hill ) has in store for us. Better safe than sorry IMO. AK's are cheap affordable fun anyhow.

[Auto426]

I wanted to buy another 1911 towards the end of this year, but with the election coming up and neither candidate looking attractive, I'm starting to think about an AK as a companion piece to my AR-15. I'm still debating exactly what to get, but right now I'm thinking of an Arsenal in 5.45. Reminds me that I also should start stacking up some more Pmags as well.

[TexasPatriot.308]

looks like a WASR10 that was selling for $350 not too long ago, now going for over $500. the price goes up and down with political climates. I got a few, but aint about to buy any firearm at "scare prices" dont know what you paid, but probably too much.

[doc540]

private purchase factored in

and doc don't overpay for nuthin';)

Patriot, I think we're working from the same playbook.

What would you consider a fair price for a low mileage WASR with three, unused mags and 200 rnds of cheap Ruskie, ball and hp ammo?

[whetrock]

That looks particular speciman looks nicer than the WASR-10's I've handled. My uncle stocked up on half a dozen or so a couple of years back after living through the 08 election scare he decided he wanted to play it safe and pay a half way reasonable price for them so he bought from JG and recieved a discount after purchasing several at on time. I don't remember a whole lot about them but I do remember that the wood furniture looked IMO almost unfinished and the fit an finish overall seemed a bit on the rough side, but still they shoot and are capable of decent accuracy according to him so I suppose that's all one can ask for out of a semi-auto centerfire rifle in that price range.

[doc540]

It may look a little nicer since I worked on the Communist wood a while this afternoon and smeared it with a coat of Howard's Feed'n'Wax.:)

[TexasPatriot.308]

doc, right now, wouldnt even consider buying one at the current price. alredy have some, they aint the best quality and even then at the right time wouldnt pay over $350 for one, I'll let the panic buyers spend their money and when it settles down, get another at a reasonable price. right now the prices are far from smart or reasonable. glad I already got mine.

[doc540]

doc, right now, wouldnt even consider buying one at the current price. alredy have some, they aint the best quality and even then at the right time wouldnt pay over $350 for one, I'll let the panic buyers spend their money and when it settles down, get another at a reasonable price. right now the prices are far from smart or reasonable. glad I already got mine.

So, what would you pay for a rattlin' WASR, 3 mags, and 200 rnds of ammo? $350 tops for all of it?

Just curious since you think I probably paid "too much". ;)

[Auto426]

I would agree on the $350 for just the rifle after fondling a few examples at the last local gunshow. While AK's aren't built to win beauty contests, I at least expect them to be converted with more tools than just hammers and chisels. At the current prices of over $500 they can have them, I'll spend a little more and buy something else that was put together by someone who actually cares.

Doc's example doesn't look too bad as the furniture seems to actually have some type of finish applied to it. It is missing the cleaning rod though. The steel surplus 7.62x39 magazines can be had for pretty cheap, and the 200 rounds of ammo adds some value as well, depending on if it's corrosive surplus or new manufacture non corrosive.

[TexasPatriot.308]

from experience, only the extra ammo thrown in would be a factor, and it may be cheap steel case ammo I woulldnt want to mess with. something like Wolf, piece of crap, dirty, ammo you got to clean your weapon every time you fire a few rounds. like I said, panic buying is fixing to set in and I am just gonna sit back, laugh and watch people blow their money. I will buy again, maybe when the smoke clears.

[Rob G]

and it may be cheap steel case ammo I woulldnt want to mess with.

But that's the whole point of buying an AK, shooting cheap steel cased ammo.

something like Wolf, piece of crap, dirty, ammo you got to clean your weapon every time you fire a few rounds.

It's an AK, unless you're shooting corrosive ammo you don't clean it, you just put it away at the end of the day.

As to the price, given the current market I'd pay maybe as much as $450 for a WASR, 3 mags, and 200 rounds of ammo. It kind of depends on what condition all of it is in. Although realistically you could probably get $550 for all that right now if you were a little patient.

[cyclopsshooter]

Keeps coming up in this thread that WASRS go for $350 and that the new prices are scare prices? Is this really a case of a $350 USED AK with no goodies vs. a NEW WASR with goodies that retails at $500? (These days used AK don't seem to be circulating as much.) My distributors, including Century, have had a bump in pricing over the last months but I think it is due largely to inflation (Customers often state that they are ditching fiat currency for tangible, tradeable goods.) A small percentage of the price bump may be scare pricing.. But that's it from the manufacturer/distribution train. What your local retailers are doing is anyones guess...

cheap, rattles and shoots

Thats the best stuff about an AK :)

[Ignition Override]

That's an attractive AK.
Imagine this-your wife decides to add a small room to the attic, to keep gun items.
New houses here have no workshops, and never have basements.

Can you imagine how much ammo you could buy for just a fraction of what this room will cost?

[coalman]

Well, maybe not pre-election, but it showed up in a local ad with 3 mags, and 200 rounds of ammo.

Nice indeed, for the right price. 2 extra mags = <$20, ammo = <$50, Gun = <$450. Price <$500 would be a good deal assuming the gun is clean and straight. Any higher and I'd pony up for a better AK.

[doc540]

Patriot, you can't come up with what you think would be a fair price to pay for that package?

[Cal-gun Fan]

from experience, only the extra ammo thrown in would be a factor, and it may be cheap steel case ammo I woulldnt want to mess with. something like Wolf, piece of crap, dirty, ammo you got to clean your weapon every time you fire a few rounds. like I said, panic buying is fixing to set in and I am just gonna sit back, laugh and watch people blow their money. I will buy again, maybe when the smoke clears.
You really don't seem to know what you're talking about. Steel cased ammo is fine for the AK, its what it was meant to shoot. Wolf isn't that dirty and you don't need to clean it "every couple rounds". Some people don't even clean theirs at all.

$400 or so is what I'd consider a fair price/value for a WASR these days. Couple that with $30 in magazines and $50 or so in ammo, and around $450 or so seems fine.

[Flashcube]

I envy you people who live in states where an AK can be had for less than $500... I can't even have a real 47. My 74 cost me close to $700 lol... :scrutiny:

[TurtlePhish]

I envy you people who live in states where an AK can be had for less than $500... I can't even have a real 47. My 74 cost me close to $700 lol...

Where'd you get it? Vic at The Freedom Shoppe in New Milford usually has some Bulgarians for $600 each. Lots of mags too.

[Flashcube]

I've honestly never been able to FIND The Freedom Shoppe... I know it's near the diner, but I usually turn off and go the back way up to John's. (he's on vacation and has a Colt I want...dangit lol)

I bought mine up at BMG in Newington... and yeah, they're over priced in almost all regards but their Hi-Points. They're just the only outfit I know of that will even touch AKs. I'll have to put a little more effort into finding TFS... I need mags.

I'm hoping Hiller Sports who just moved in two minutes (:D) from where I work in Norwalk increases their inventory some lol.

[mattmann]

I bought my pre election AK! Lol scare price or not I wanted = I bought it. Its an arsenal so i knew I would pay a premium and i did. $1,000 otd. This is high but I handled Century and a lot of others and preferred the arsenal to all others. I guess its all about personal preference about what you want. Fwiw I LOVE yours and plan on getting one of those soon. Something about a 'ratteling' AK that just makes me happy. Let me in on what you paid though. I would pay $450 easy
http://img.tapatalk.com/6c4144d9-a298-e766.jpg

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[TurtlePhish]

I've honestly never been able to FIND The Freedom Shoppe... I know it's near the diner, but I usually turn off and go the back way up to John's. (he's on vacation and has a Colt I want...dangit lol)

It's just an attached garage type thing on the side of his house, it's a little obscure. There's a neon sign on while he's open, but it's tough to find without GPS.

[jackblack86]

Ive got my feg amd65 on layaway at buds guns I didnt think 439.00 including shipping was a bad price, second pre 2012 purchase first was a mac 10

[Rob G]

I bought my pre election AK! Lol scare price or not I wanted = I bought it. Its an arsenal so i knew I would pay a premium and i did. $1,000 otd.

Mattman, I wouldn't feel bad about that. If that's an SLR 107 (that's what it looks like) then you've just purchased what is arguably one of the best AKs ever produced. Arsenal used Bulgarian parts kits for those and even Kalashnikov himself admitted that the Bulgarians built the best AKs.

[mattmann]

It is indeed a slr107. I love it.....dare I say more than my ar!

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[Rob G]

It is indeed a slr107. I love it.....dare I say more than my ar!

That's okay, you can say it. I love my SGL 31 more than any of the ARs I've shot so far. :D

[M2]

Nice Romanian, and it's not worth debating whether you got a "deal" or not as you are in possession of a good AK and what you paid for it and any accessories in inconsequential.

AK prices have been on the rise over the last six months, I was lucky to find a SLR-95 milled Bulgarian at a reasonable price which "completes" my Kalashnikov collection for the time being.

I am always looking for good deals on AKs but lately it's gotten tougher as it usually does during election years. The paranoia has no basis, if you ask me; but you can debate who is fueling it.

For the time being, I am stocking up on ammo as I remember how bad things got in 2008. At the time I had a .380 that I couldn't find reasonably-priced ammo for, luckily I got rid of it in a trade and was able to acquire something that used more common ammo (a 9mm Taurus).

Enjoy your WASR!

Cheers! M2

[TrickyDick]

Honestly, no matter what type of ammo I shoot, I ALWAYS clean my firearms after I shoot them. I just like them clean when I put them away, i never exactly know when I'll shoot them again (new baby, shooting time has been dramatically slashed for the time being) but I'm also very particular about cleaning weapons...... I must say though, I've never had my AK malfunction, and I've only ever shot brass ammo once, steel for $5 or brass for $15? I love my m70ab2

[ifit]

doc nice romy, now thats the best ak here on this thread cause you did not spend 1k on an ak:) and will shoot like any ak out there and dont have to look pretty doing it. looks like you got one from the cugir factory judging by the marked right receiver which is a good thing. if im going to spend on a high dollar ak variant, i would skip arsenal without thinkin twice and get a vepr, much better quality...at least for me. doc i have 4 cugir built ak variants and you simply cant go wrong with them at their price, before this panick thing started again:(

[10thMtn]

I went to my favorite gun shop with every intention of coming home with a pre-election AK, but I came home with a pre-election Saiga-12 with a 20-round drum , quad tactical rails, and an EOTech on top for slugging. I think I've just lost my mind!!!:what:

[mattmann]

I went to my favorite gun shop with every intention of coming home with a pre-election AK, but I came home with a pre-election Saiga-12 with a 20-round drum , quad tactical rails, and an EOTech on top for slugging. I think I've just lost my mind!!!:what:

Nah you sound totally sane to me! Were you on the 10th mountain by chance?

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[Rob G]

I went to my favorite gun shop with every intention of coming home with a pre-election AK, but I came home with a pre-election Saiga-12 with a 20-round drum , quad tactical rails, and an EOTech on top for slugging. I think I've just lost my mind!!!

That actually sounds pretty reasonable to me. Except myabe the EOTech part but then I'm all about Russian optics for Russian guns. Still, I'll let it slide this time. :D

[10thMtn]

That actually sounds pretty reasonable to me. Except myabe the EOTech part but then I'm all about Russian optics for Russian guns. Still, I'll let it slide this time.

I appreciate that! I've always had a thing for EOTech, and since I didn't know of anything comparably Russian to put on it, I went for the easy way out! :D

[10thMtn]

Were you on the 10th mountain by chance?

Yes, but I was attached elsewhere for the majority of my career. Nothing exciting -- wish I could say I was attached to the 75th and had lots of stories, but it wasn't like that.

[Rob G]

I appreciate that! I've always had a thing for EOTech, and since I didn't know of anything comparably Russian to put on it, I went for the easy way out!

I don't think there is anything comparable. But you should check out http://russianoptics.net/ when you get a chance. It's done by a guy who has a ton of Russian style optics for his AKs and does reviews on all of them. There's some pretty cool stuff out there.

[10thMtn]

Thanks for the link, Rob! This guy knows a lot about Russian optics! If I hadn't already blown a wad of cash on my 2nd EOTech, I'd probably try to get myself one of those red dots with one exception.

The issue I'd have is they're built taller and mounted higher because most AK stocks are suited for a chin weld. I changed out the stock for a Magpul MOE, so I'd be using a cheek weld. This guy says that's a problem sometimes, and I agree. It would require changing years of muscle memory to get it to work right.

However, there is something said about doing it right.

[JustinJ]

Mattman, I wouldn't feel bad about that. If that's an SLR 107 (that's what it looks like) then you've just purchased what is arguably one of the best AKs ever produced. Arsenal used Bulgarian parts kits for those and even Kalashnikov himself admitted that the Bulgarians built the best AKs.

Don't know about the Kalashnikov comment but its my understanding the SLR107 is made from an imported "sporterized" version that is then converted just like the Arsenal Saigas. According to KVAR the SLR 107 has a Bulgarian receiver and barrel:
http://www.k-var.com/shop/home.php?cat=357

[mattmann]

Yes, but I was attached elsewhere for the majority of my career. Nothing exciting -- wish I could say I was attached to the 75th and had lots of stories, but it wasn't like that.

No shame in that brother. Thank you for all your service to our country. We are blessed to have men and women do what you did for us.

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[Rob G]

but its my understanding the SLR107 is made from an imported "sporterized" version that is then converted just like the Arsenal Saigas. According to KVAR the SLR 107 has a Bulgarian receiver and barrel:

I have no idea if it's "sporterized" or if it's just a loose collection of parts but you are correct in that it comes with a Bulgarian receiver and barrel.

Part of the reason for people preferring the SLRs is that they generally come with the poly side folding stock (which only some SGLs have) and a chrome lined brake (which no SGLs have) for right around $1,000. That's $100 to $150 less than an SGL with the poly side folder, and no chrome lined brake.

As for the Kalashnikov comment, I heard that one a long time ago. Can't remember who vetted it.

[doc540]

doc nice romy, now thats the best ak here on this thread cause you did not spend 1k on an ak and will shoot like any ak out there and dont have to look pretty doing it. looks like you got one from the cugir factory judging by the marked right receiver which is a good thing. if im going to spend on a high dollar ak variant, i would skip arsenal without thinkin twice and get a vepr, much better quality...at least for me. doc i have 4 cugir built ak variants and you simply cant go wrong with them at their price, before this panick thing started again

thanks
Roll marks say "1977", arrow in triangle

Waiting for an AMD-65 to arrive any day now, so I'll shoot them both for the first time. Extra ammo should be delivered sometime today.

The romy is stupid simple and cheap. I like that.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/AK47/003-4-1.jpg

[ifit]

thats great doc, instead of spending 1k on a pretty ak, now you have 2 different variants for the price of 1. got my feg from jg sales and you will be surprised how light and how smooth it shoots. i still want a cugir romy 1063 though

[Jesse 8]

I bought mine because of the election. Arsenal SGL21. Paid 800 shipped. That was used though, ~250 rounds run thru it.

[pat701]

Bet you get the trigger slap with it also. What until 150 rounds to see how your trigger finger feels.

[ifit]

pat701, trigger slap? holy cow have not heard that in a while. what rifle are you refering to here.... the arsenal?

[Rob G]

Bet you get the trigger slap with it also.

They fixed that a while ago. As far as I know all the current WASRs have G2 trigger groups in them which pretty much eliminates trigger slap.

[Buck Kramer]

Trigger slap has been nearly abominated. Tapco makes a pretty good trigger with a little polish work, I've never experienced trigger slap with the G2's...

[Ignition Override]

For about $450 many of you might find a really good authentic Russian SKS, which always has a chrome-lined bore, and they should have a blade bayonet.

Usually the Russian wood is much more attractive than both Romainian (WASR) wood and the types used on other varieties of SKS.
The Russian variety is reportedly harder than the soft choa used on Norincos, which is easy to cut or scrape.

On another different note, won't the Czech VZ-58 go up in price in the weeks before the election?

[ChisumTK]

I went the route of gathering the right tools and setting myself up to build a few AKs. Since then, I would say that the money I've saved by building my own has paid for the tools. I think I've about broke even but the piece of mind is worth it. The idea that I have these weapons 100% legally and I'm still not in any FFL's black book makes me a happy camper...

[doc540]

shot both for the first time yesterday

accuracy's good

no trigger slap from either one

AMD trigger is very nice

folding stock wasn't the least bit uncomfortable or awkward (except for the stiffness of operation)

Again, I'm amazed at the simplicity and functionality of an AK.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/AK47/IMAG0427-1.jpg

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