[scythefwd]

Just wondering how heavy your field rifles are.

I'm at 10.4 lbs
Single shot .308, Bushnell elite 4-12x40 scope (sitting on a cva optima elite)

[R.W.Dale]

I have a thing for lightweight hunting rifles

Anywhere from 4.5 lbs with my rolling block in 357 to around 7 is for either my Retro ar or my bullpup AK, the two boat paddle stocked rugers probably hover around 8.5#

If I had a 10# single shot to hunt with I'd be putting that dude on a diet

[dubya450]

I'm not exactly sure but adding the manufacture weight for the rifle, scope and adding 2oz for rings/bases I get:

1) winchester m70 extreme weather 338 wm & Leupold vx-3 2.5-8x36 about 8.25 or a little more

2) sako 85 classic 25-06 & Leupold vx-3 1.5-5x20 just under or at 8 pounds

I've been really looking at the Kimber Montana for a few years now as a lightweight "walking" deer rifle but i really only NEED two hunting rifles for anything ill ever hunt.

[scythefwd]

Krochus...

Its 9 lbs starting... pretty easy. Not a pencil barrel, but not a full bull barrel either... its this barrel..
http://www.bergarausa.com/Store-View.php?id=246

.62" at the muzzle.. so a little beefy for a sporter barrel.. 24"
The frame body is what is so heavy though...

The scope is 15 oz..
add another few oz for the rings (millet mangle locks) and bases (weaver) and it's a 9 lb rifle from the get go.. then I've epoxy bedded another sling swivel in for bipod use when I'm fooling around

wonder what it would cost to get it shortened by 4 inches or so and re-crowned

[jmr40]

My lightest, a Kimber 84M in 308. 5 lbs 15 oz with a Leupold 2.5-8X36 in Talley lightweigh mounts.

My heaviest hunting rifle is a Winchester 70 30-06. McMillan Edge stock, Zeiss Conquest scope, Talley Lghtweight mounts. 7 lbs 14 oz.

I have 4 others that are in the 7.25-7.5 lb range.

I do have a Tactial 308 that is 9.5 lbs scoped, but the 6 lb Kimber is more accuate and gets used more.

I'm not exactly sure but adding the manufacture weight for the rifle, scope and adding 2oz for rings/bases I get:

Don't trust the manufactures listed weights. Use some postal scales. The weights listed on most scopes has been pretty accurate in my experienece, but rifle weights are often WAAAAY off. Sometimes 1/2 lb. light and sometimes 1/2 lb. heavy. The EW's I've weighed were either right on, or at least close compared to some others.

Talley lightweight mounts @ 2.5 oz are the lightest I've weighed. Most steel rings and bases are 5-8 oz.

[Robert]

The M70 weighs 9lbs alone, then add the VX3 and I'd put it somewhere in the 9.5 to 10lbs range. Though it is a 375H&H.

[Art Eatman]

For about thirty or so years I carried 9.5 pounds of Wby Mark V in '06. My legs went and got old, so I've gone to 6.5 pounds of 700 Ti in 7mm08.

[Gunnerboy]

My 6.5x55 Vz24 weighs just at 8.7lbs :D lightest kicking centerfire i own

[Brian Williams]

Little over 7lbs with a Win Compact Classic Model 70 in 7mm-08 with a 3x9-32 scope.

[Taurus 617 CCW]

I carry a Howa 1500 with a heavy contour barrel and a 3-9x50mm scope. The whole package tips the scale at 10.75 lbs.

[mshootnit]

8.5 lbs but balanced perfectly
Vanguard stainless 257 Weatherby
Gets the hard to reach places......unless you over shoot. I pulled up on a running buck so far away we couldn't even guess. Gave him one stadia wire and shot just over his back.
The Vanguard is just the same as the Howa 1500 except the stock, bolt, barrel contour, chambering. Kind of like how an old Olds 88 is just the same as a Buick Park Avenue.

[ball3006]

I don't really care what the wieght of my rifle is........If you can't hump what you hunt with, join a gym......chris3

[PonyKiller]

Mine is little short of eight pounds, my "jersey rifle" is a mossberg 500 w rifled slug barrel and a small 2.5 power scope.

[Robert]

I don't really care what the wieght of my rifle is........If you can't hump what you hunt with, join a gym
Very true chris. I know I am the weak link in the chain. And that is something I can fix easy enough.

[browningguy]

Quote:
I don't really care what the wieght of my rifle is........If you can't hump what you hunt with, join a gym

Very true chris. I know I am the weak link in the chain. And that is something I can fix easy enough.

Actually it's just a glib answer that is the very next thing to useless. After you have your second knee surgery, and some arthritis in your hips and hands, let me know how that whole gym thing works out for you.

[jmr40]

I don't really care what the wieght of my rifle is........If you can't hump what you hunt with, join a gym......chris3

Gotta strongly disagree with this one. I don't care if you can benchpress 400 lbs or only 100 lbs a 9 lb rifle is always going to be 3 lbs heavier than a 6 lb rifle. I don't care how strong you are a 9-10 lb rifle will be carried slung over your shoulder, a 6 lb rifle will be in your hands where it belongs.

For the guys who drive a 4 wheeler directly to their elevated stand with a shooting bench built in it does not matter, but for the guy who walks 10 miles a day in the mountains it matters.

Another thing I've noticed is that only the trimmest, most fit hunters are the ones who are obsessed with truly lightweights, because they are the ones who put them to use in the terrain they were made for. Never seen a fat hunter carrying a lightwight rifle.

[R.W.Dale]

I don't really care what the wieght of my rifle is........If you can't hump what you hunt with, join a gym......chris3

I'm very active and fit. I work as a HEAVY steel Fabricator/welder by trade. When I hunt I have a tendency to get active too. A heavy rifle that holds me back has no place in my hands.

For example a couple years back I climbed down THIS

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/krochus/f8325823.jpg

Twenty minutes later

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/krochus/c31dbeac.jpg

I counter 3006ball's statement with my own. If you don't think the weight of the rifle matters you need to get off the tree stand and leave the ATV at home.

[Robert]

I was only commenting for myself. Everyone take a deep breath. If it does not apply to you then don't worry.

[pbrktrt]

Vanguard in .270 Win w/ Leupold 3x9x50 with 5 rounds goes 8.5 lbs. Not a burden and very easy to shoot well from field positions.

[Arkansas Paul]

Mine is too heavy. It's a Weatherby Vangaurd .30-06 with a Leupold 3x9x40 and tips the scale at over 10 pounds. It's the only thing I don't like about the rifle. Fortunately, the majority of our hunting is done from box blinds, so it's not that big of an issue. If I did a lot of stalk hunting I would likely get something a little lighter.

[Gunnerboy]

Where im from there is no such thing as a tree stand,4 wheeler, or truck to ride around in, and i can agree with the statement so many are offended by, if you dont like a heavy rifle so be it either work out or get a featherweight, but on a average of 10-15 miles a day out hunting with my 8.7lb rifle i dont get tired mainly because i work out several times a week.

[scythefwd]

I only have to walk a 1/2 mile or so in and out... I can only hunt public land here in VA.. and there is NO such thing as walking more than 3 miles a day. My 10 lb rifle gets carried in my hands the whole time.. no sling even attached.

[montanaoffroader]

All of my hunting rifles weigh in between 8 and 9 lbs all dressed up and ready to go. Kind of surprised me, I always thought my 336 was on the light side and expected the MN 91/30 to be a good bit heavier. But the scales don't lie.

As near as I can figure it, I most likely equated ease of handling with lighter weight. Obviously not always the case, as I discovered when I noted that my 336 .30-30 actually outweighs my XL7 in .30-06. Go figure. :o

[Jorg]

Mine's pretty light first thing in the morning. Seems to pack on more than a few extra pounds towards the end of the day, particularly if it hasn't been used.

[hardluk1]

Mine ain't lite at 10lb 8oz, no sling or amo. 27" #7 barrel. I carry it in a boonie packers saferi sling and that makes the weight easy to carry.

[wankerjake]

I've not weighed a single one. They are all "light enough" by my standards, otherwise I wouldn't hunt with them. My buddy packed around a Ruger 25-06 with a bull barrel for a whole week in early November during deer season around Tucson AZ. He and I determined it was "too heavy" and hasn't hunted it since. :D

[steveo452]

The weight of my CZ 527 carbine loaded (6rd) and ready to hunt is 7 LB. Good for any game east of the Mississippi river, At 200yds. or less.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i225/fritzy1911/DSCN0080.jpg

[tahoe2]

never weighed them, but my model 99 Savage and Rem 7400, have a lot of metal in the reciever area, both are scoped. I'm guessing about 9-1/2 lbs ea, gets heavy after 3-6 hrs in the field.
My mauser sporters are not so heavy, around 7-8 lbs. Mausers in military guise around 10lbs I think. My 375 levergun 6-1/2 lbs.

[mr.trooper]

A hair under 7lbs with the scope.

Can't use rifles for deer in this state, so I use a CZ 453 in 17HMR for everything else.

STEVEO:

That rifle is gorgeous. Congratulations.

[Hanshi]

All my hunting rifles weigh from 6lbs up to 91/2lbs and all but two are flintlocks and those two are percussion. I now only hunt with the flinters. One, 71/2lbs is actually a .62 musket and that's what I killed a deer with last season.

My favorite (.45) is about 61/2lbs and and my newest (.50) is about the same or lighter. My US M1841 rifle (percussion) has seen the deer woods a few times but is now retired; it weighs 91/2lbs.

[DM~]

7 pounds,

http://www.fototime.com/2F1EDE966EE573A/standard.jpg

DM

[Art Eatman]

An extra pound or three in a rifle gets noticeable after ten to fifteen miles in this country:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=543&d=1042925259

[kimbershot]

thompson contender 16 in. 45-70 with choate adj. stock and bushnell red dot-haven't weighed it--probably 5.5 lbs.:D

[scythefwd]

DM - I'm jealous

[1858]

My new Kimber 8400 Montana (300 WSM) with a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40mm scope, Seekins rings and Ken Farrel base is around 7-1/2lb but feels lighter that. The 84M models are lighter still.

[Ridgerunner665]

My Winchester model 70 (30-06 Ultimate Shadow) weighs 9 lbs. when fully loaded.

A tad heavy to carry, but a pure joy to shoot...even with handloads that are on the warm side.

Too much weight is bad, but not enough can be just as bad if its a hard kicking caliber.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX!

[Smith357]

A little over 7 pounds for a Winchester M70 .30-06 with Leupold 3x9.

[Narwhal]

7.5 lbs without the scope, 9 lbs with - Remington 700p LTR with Leupold Mark 4 ER/T 4.5-14x 50mm. My other hunting rifles are M14's, so the 700 is my lightest.

[Old krow]

I have 2. The .30-30 is pretty light, but I don't know what it weighs. My .308 is over 11 lbs. I do a lot of back packing, so I don't particularly mind the weight.

[wickedsprint]

7.5 lbs without the scope, 9 lbs with - Remington 700p LTR with Leupold Mark 4 ER/T 4.5-14x 50mm.

I think your LTR might be heavier than you think. What rings and bases are you running? Steel or Aluminum?

[Flatbush Harry]

My Ruger 77RSIs in .270 Win and .308 Win weigh just a bit under 7 pounds before I added a Leupy VX3 2.5-8x36 to complete the light stalking rifle package. They're both compact, light, easily carried and nostalgic in style. For longer distance hunting, such as Pronghorn or coyote, I've got a Rem 700 XHR in .25-06 with a Zeiss 3-9x40 that weighs about 8.5 pounds with scope and sling.

FH

[SHR970]

Light weight isn't always a good thing; I have a light weight carry all day and shoot once maybe twice gun that can prove it.

Rem 700 AWR with Leup VX-II 2-7X and Warne rings: it weighs in at a stout 8.25 lbs. Touch off a 300 gr. 375 RUM from this platform and you'll get a nice solid kick that makes a Marlin 1895SS in 45-70 with true tier II loads seem weak. For some calibers weight is your friend.

[Narwhal]

I think your LTR might be heavier than you think. What rings and bases are you running? Steel or Aluminum?
Just going off the specs Remington and Leupold give me.

700 LTR - 7.5 lbs
Mark 4 - 1.31 lbs (21 oz)
Badger Ordnance 20 MOA scope base - 0.3 lbs (4.8oz)
Seekins Precision 1" scope rings - ??? (they don't weigh much, definitely less than the base, so i'll be liberal and say .3 lbs)

Altogether that's 9.41 lbs.

Honestly it could stand to be heavier, it's pretty jumpy recoil-wise as it is. I would have no desire to shoot a magnum cartridge out of a rifle weighing this much.

[Savage99]

scythefwd,

You wrote:

"just wondering how heavy your field rifles are.

I'm at 10.4 lbs
Single shot .308, Bushnell elite 4-12x40 scope (sitting on a cva optima elite)"
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Mine are light. I am 6'4" and weigh 245. One fist of iron and the other of steel.

If the right one don't git you then the left one wheel. :rolleyes:

[Friendly, Don't Fire!]

Mine is as light as an AR-15 Semi-Auto with a Leupold Scope and mount on the carry handle plus a five-round magazine with one in the chamber and the OEM nylon sling.

[tech30528]

Most of the hunting around here is small game so I get a ridiculously light 10 22 stainless carbine with a 3x9 scope and a Blackhawk Axiom stock. Just over 5 pounds. It carries very well which is good because there is very little flat ground here. Boar hunting around here is usually large pistols.

[RyeDaddy]

Weight never bothered me until this last year. I went on a hog hunt that involved miles of hiking with a 13.5 lb rifle slung. The day I got home I bought a Kimber Montana and topped it with a 10 oz. Leupold 2-7x33, it weighs 6 lbs flat with the scope and leather sling. I'll never lug a heavy beast again.

[PedalBiker]

All mine are around 8lbs. I looked into lighter, but I'm 25lbs overweight. I use a Safari sling and that helps.

I usually carry a fair bit on my back as well. Between water, extra food, map compass, radio, etc I'm pretty well loaded.

[LeonCarr]

Mine weighs in at about 12 pounds (Remington 700 PSS .308, Choate Tactical Stock, Leupold Steel Rings and Bases, Leupold 3.5-10 Vari X III, Harris Bipod), but shoots like a house on fire and is a big confidence builder on hunts. If you miss it dang sure ain't the rifle's fault :).

For stand hunting the clear cuts and senderos, it is the king. if I am ever lucky enough to hunt the mountains out west, a lighter rifle will be purchased.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

[sage5907]

Quote - "don't really care what the wieght of my rifle is........If you can't hump what you hunt with, join a gym......chris3"

I agree with you chris. One thing I can't stand is for a shooter to buy a 7 pound rifle and complain about the recoil. I've carried a 10 pound rifle for 45 years and it never crossed my mind to complain about the weight. My scouting rifles are lighter than my hunting rifles but I always carry a rifle that fits the challenge. BW

[lonniemike]

Swede 22" barrel 3X9 Leupold and 3 rounds 8#
w/ sling and 9 rounds in/on ammo pouch 8 3/4#
not real heavy or real light: it's just right

[wyohome]

Primary hunting rifle is a 788 in .308. It weighs 8.5 lbs unloaded.
2nd favorite is a 760 in .308. It weighs 8lbs 14oz unloaded.
I also own a Kimber Longmaster Classic in .308. It weighs 8lbs 15oz unloaded with a 6x18 VX-2. It is too unreliable to use for hunting.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Deaver/7189ae15.jpg

[sage5907]

Quote: "I don't care how strong you are a 9-10 lb rifle will be carried slung over your shoulder, a 6 lb rifle will be in your hands where it belongs."

If you always carry a rifle in your hands while hunting how do you use your binoculars, rangefinder, gps and flashlight? I would rather carry my rifle on my shoulder and use my hands to manage my other equipment. Besides, when I am hunting my binoculars are my most important asset and get 99% of the use. It's easier to switch from binoculars to rifle than to go the other way. BW

[wyohome]

^Flashlight??

[sage5907]

Quite: ^Flashlight??

Hey, Wyohome don't you ever travel in the dark. When I leave the Jeep in the morning it's always dark and when I return in the evening it's always dark. Sometimes a flashlight comes in handy to get under a barbed wire fence, around the head of a canyon, or through the bottom of a dark draw. BW

[wyohome]

Oh, it sounded like you were juggling all of these things while actually hunting.

[BemidjiDweller]

Dm, What rifle/shotgun combo is that and where can I find me 5?

[scythefwd]

bemidjidweller - it's called a drilling. If you are willing to pay shipping, and ffl.. there are two posted over on vaguntrader.com (its down right now though..grrr...) for roughly 2500 each. They are suhls.

Wyo - I LOVE the stock on that top rifle. Beautiful piece of wood there.

[scythefwd]

Here is my porker.. with a couple extra barrels just for fun

From top to bottom of the case:
20 GA (fiber optic front bead, MOD choke in right now and accepts mossberg accuchoke or invector chokes)
.50 caliber muzzle loader (28", 1 in 28 right hand twist, bushnell tropy 1.75-4x32, durasight z2 1 piece base/rings by cva) - primary hunting barrel.. may change this year now that I can use the next barrel
.308 winchester (24", 1 in 10 rh twist, bushnell elite 3200 4-12x40(needs to go back to factory for POI wander through magnification ranges, millit angle lock rings, weaver bases)

Rifle is cva optima elite.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h372/scythefwd/IMG_20120531_165026.jpg

[Rail Driver]

Hmm... I dunno. What's a Mosin/Nagant M44 weigh?

I don't hunt enough to spend money on much more than what I have now :)

[WYcoyote]

Wyohome, that Kimber remains to this day as the most beautiful jackhandle I've ever seen in person.
Just weighed my Savage 16 in .260 with a 3-9x40 Conquest that I'm planning to try on a once in a lifetime sheep hunt in WY, 8 lb 10 oz empty w/ sling.
Marlin XL7 in 25-06 w/ 2.5-10x40 Bushnell 4200, 8 lb 12 oz.
Ruger M77 7mm RM w/ 3-9x40 Burris Signature, 9 lb 3 oz.
Rem R-15 .223 w/ 3-12x44 Burris Sig. Select, 9 lb 6 oz.
Win M70 300WM w/ 3-9x40 Leupold VX-R, 9 lb 8 oz.
Savage 110 6.5-.284 w/ 3-15x50 Nitrex TR2, 10 lb 6 oz.

[BP Hunter]

I was thinking of trading my coyote rifle, Remington 700 SPS tactical with Hogue stock, for a lighter Mossberg MVP because it was heavy. It weighs only 10 1/2 pounds. I also weighed my deer rifle - Ruger M77 Hawkeye in 25-06. It's much longer and feels lighter but actually weighs only 1/2 pound lighter than the Remington.

[JohnB]

Remington 600 Mohawk in .308 - 7lb 15oz. with scope, sling, and 5 rounds.
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[wyohome]

Wyohome, that Kimber remains to this day as the most beautiful jackhandle I've ever seen in person.

Very likely the most expensive as well, WYcoyote

[jmr40]

If you always carry a rifle in your hands while hunting how do you use your binoculars, rangefinder, gps and flashlight? I would rather carry my rifle on my shoulder and use my hands to manage my other equipment.

The rifle has a sling on it, and it can quickly be slung if needed. I would have never gotten off a shot with at least 1/2 of the game animals I've taken over the years if my rifle was over my shoulder. Two or three seconds from sighting the animal until it is out of sight is typical. If I'm just hiking I'll carry over the shoulder, if hunting, it is in my hands.

It is not a matter of "can I carry a heavier rifle?" I can and have, but once you start carrying a lighter version and find that it is just as accurate, you won't go back. I could tape a brick to the barrel of my Kimber and it would still weigh less than my other rifles. The brick would do just as much to improve performance as the extra weight in the others. Would you carry around a brick taped to your gun just to prove how manly you are? If you are carrying around a gun that weighs more than 8 lbs all up with scope and mounts then you are doing the equivalent of carrying around a brick taped to your gun.

And don't use the excuse that you cannot shoot light rifles. Heavy rifles are like training wheels on a bicycle. Both help novice users succeed. Once you learn how to ride a bike without training wheels, or shoot a rifle without the extra weight, you won't go back to either.

[sage5907]

Quote: "Two or three seconds from sighting the animal until it is out of sight is typical."

jmr40, I completely agree with this statement. Most mature animals will give a hunter only a few seconds for the shot. I think you and I are basically saying the same thing. An experienced hunter knows when to take the rifle off his shoulder and carry it in has hands. It is common for hunters to say that the animal didn't give me a shot. If they had been ready they could have gotten an aimed shot off. When I see someone hunting with a bipod on his rifle I wonder how many opportunities he has wasted. If you look for a crutch the opportunity can waste itself. Also, I agree that a hunter will look to lighter rifles as he gets more experience but a lighter rifle is only good for someone who isn't recoil shy. Just because a rifle is light and accurate it doesn't mean the shooter can hit anything. BW

[sixgunner455]

Savage 11, .243, Burris Fullfield II, sling, 8lbs even.

[Kachok]

I have several rifles that I hunt with, but my T3 Stainless is my go to gun 90% of the time, it weights 6lbs 4oz, figure with my Nikon scope, Super Sling and a loaded mag I am probably tipping the scales a hair over 7lbs, MUCH lighter then my old magnum cannon I used to carry around.

[content]

Hello friends and neighbors // Weight is a consideration or I would carry my Savage 24s more often.;)

My main rifles for hunting the S.C. brush are:
65% --1968, Remington 760 in .30-06 --- 7 1/2lbs + ammo, scope and sling 9lbs
20%--1996 Marlin 336AS in .30-30-------- 7lbs +ammo, scope and sling 8 1/2lbs
10%--1954 Remington 760 in .35rem.-----7 1/2lbs

5%--Savage24s ---7 1/2lbs(poorer balance),M1 Carbine---6lbs,Mosin 91-30 ---8 1/2lbs ,various .22s Stevens M26 ---2 lbs , Marlin 795 ---4.5lbs + extras 6.5lbs.

The only time I thought of one as heavy, so far, was having the .30-06 slung across my chest as I pulled a white tail up from the creek.
Crossing the creek was OK but going up the 25foot bank to the trail took two trips cuse that dang rifle was so heavy(small deer) and I'm too lazy for two trips.:D

[ricehombre]

I carry a m70 with #7 Krieger 24" over 10lbs. Balanced great and shoots better. Would rather have a stout built rifle that shoots bug holes consistently than a light weight pencil barrel rifle any day.

[GlockMasterG9]

WOW that thing is awesome ! Nice

[Snag]

Mine is around 6.5 - 7 lbs. An M77 lightweight in 243.

[MCgunner]

My favorite is a .308 stainless Remington M7, gorgeously light weight and compact and, yet, 3/4 MOA accurate. It's topped by a 2x10x40 Weaver, a very versatile combination, mountain ridge to thick brushy draw, on foot or in a box blind, it handles everything well. The rig can't weigh much more'n 7 lbs.

My Savage 110 in 7 mag is heavy, has a heavy scope on it, Weatherby supreme 3x9x44.

My .257 Roberts is light, not much lheavier than the M7, old Remington M722 short action, 24" barrel, 4x12x40 Bushnell Banner.

I have other hunting rifles, black powder, lever guns, but these are my main hunting rifles. I need to get better glass on the old .257...one of these days.

[T.R.]

This is my lightweight Winchester carbine in 30-30. It matches my hunting style perfectly. That is, stalk within 150 yards and wait for a good shot into the chest organs. Rough country is no fuss at all for me.

TR

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[wyohome]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Deaver/a4780e5b.jpg

Model 88, .308, 8lbs, 6oz

[MCgunner]

Those old 88 Winchesters were amazingly accurate. :D I've fired a couple, never owned one.

[Dr.Rob]

My Savage 116 FSAK .30-06 and a 3-9x Tasco, 1 mag and sling just over 8 pounds.
My Savage 116 Safari .375 H&H with Burris 1.5-6x variable and sling, right at 10 pounds.
My Marlin 995 with Weaver1.5-4x and sling about 4 pounds.

[gbeecher]

I prefer a little heavier gun, if only for the ability to stay on target better and to soak up recoil. I have a Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 rifle at 8.8 lbs. Having said that, I have not carried it for mile after mile thru hill and yonder. :)

[BigN]

The heavier, the better. I have target/bull barrels on my carry rifles. Heavy just feels better.

[Salty1]

My Tikka T-3 Lite (30-06) with scope and ammo is just about 7.5 pounds, light enough to carry all day without wearing me out, I did learn fairly quickly that also carrying a Super Redhawk 44 mag is not worth it.

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo90/Salty1_photos/DSC_0097.jpg