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berettaman200
May 27, 2012, 02:41 PM
I recently applied for, and got, a job with my current company in New Hampshire. A state I have been trying to get to for the longest time as I currently live in New york. My question is, my company is paying for a moving company to move all my posessions so can I ship all my guns on the moving truck? I am not sure what the proper protocol is. I only have 2 handguns and the rest are all rifles.

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brickeyee
May 27, 2012, 02:47 PM
The movers may well refuse.

Just load them in your car and drive with them, or put them into a sealed crate and do not say what is inside 9ad then hope nothing gets stolen).

No idea what you may have to tell NYS, but NH could care less.

NavyLCDR
May 27, 2012, 02:54 PM
Most moving companies will move them (although I am not sure, since we are talking New York states' laws here as well). Most moving companies will just require that the guns be declared individually on the inventory, by make/model/serial number.

If is a US Government contract move, such as military, the moving company is REQUIRED to move unloaded firearms.

They will NOT handle ammunition, primers or powder and I had to have a government inspector tell one moving company that they would move empty brass and bullets.

berettaman200
May 27, 2012, 02:59 PM
Thanks for the replies. I do have a conceal carry license with NY for my handguns(as there is no way to own them otherwise) and I only have to drive through Vermont in between and They do not require a license for conceal. However I know I have to surrender my NY license once I change residents so i will have to call the police to see how that's handled.

Midwest
May 27, 2012, 07:31 PM
However I know I have to surrender my NY license once I change residents so i will have to call the police to see how that's handled.


I believe you have 10 days to surrender your NY permit. I believe the county office that issued it, is usually where you surrender the permit. But contact them for verification, as I understand some counties have different procedures.

I suggest if you mail it, use certified mail even though certified mail is not required...it is inexpensive and you have a record that you sent it. Congrats on the move.

oneounceload
May 28, 2012, 11:06 AM
I had the moving company move my guns when I moved several thousand miles - no hassles, extra full replacement vale insurance was purchased - DON'T forget that, and all went well.

Standard moving company insurance is by the pound, so something small and expensive - say a Hummell figurine that costs $300 and weighs a few ounces, is getting reimbursed at about $.60

Good luck on your move

bubbacrabb
May 28, 2012, 11:31 AM
I would assume they would move them no problem. I may be having a moving company move me to Berlin New Hampshire. I checked the contract and they will ship firearms, I don't know if I'd have them do it though, I got a lot of money in my weapons. My gun safe though they can have their fun with, lol. I moved that thing from Indiana to az and to Oregon, I'm not takin cash this time, they can move it now. I'm gettin to old;)

berettaman200
May 28, 2012, 04:00 PM
I am soo happy I am moving from this god foresaken state. I have planned for years how i'm going to make the move from NY to NH happen. So far all is going according to plan. A position just happen to open up when my 2 year contract expired here. Is that a sign? lol. Cant wait to buy all the attachments and high cap mags when I move that NY wont allow.

Shadow 7D
May 28, 2012, 05:28 PM
Moving companies are just a specialized type of 'common carrier' - freight company, as far as I know, they will take the firearms, Ammo, primers and powder, OTH is hasmat, and they may refuse or charge extra.

ldsgeek
May 29, 2012, 04:37 PM
Welcome to a free state. You will need to get your "license to carry pistols and revolver" for concealed carry, but that is a given. The few police chiefs that try to deny them have gotten spanked, mostly transplants from Mass.

brickeyee
May 29, 2012, 04:42 PM
I have had any number of moving companies refuse to ship firearms.

It has nothing to do with being illegal as much as they do not want the liability for a very expensive item.

oneounceload
May 29, 2012, 09:16 PM
Which is why you buy the insurance - I would buy it unless all of your stuff came from the Goodwill store as they pay by weight not value of the item

I boxed up my guns, had an inventory list inside the box, attached one to their paperwork, had the insurance coverage added for the $25,000 value I had in them at the time and away they went. They arrived just the way i packed them - I used their wardrobe box with padding

brickeyee
May 30, 2012, 05:48 PM
Which is why you buy the insurance

They have flat out refused to move them at least four times I remember.

Va to NH, NH to Va, and twice withing Va (once in the same county, once across county lines, neither more than 5 miles).

It has nothing to do with ME purchasing insurance.

They did not want any responsibility for moving them.

Period.

All stop.

They are allowed to refuse.

oneounceload
May 30, 2012, 09:07 PM
That depends on their tariffs. If their tariffs do not exclude them, then they are in the wrong - in any event, find another mover

Owen Sparks
May 30, 2012, 09:36 PM
Seal them up in a box and don't tell unless they specifically ask you.
Unless the moving company X-rays everything they will never know what is in that box.

Are you familiar with the free state project?

oneounceload
May 30, 2012, 10:01 PM
Wrong thing to do - if the truck overturns and burns, you get about $.60 per pound for everything unless you declare the items and buy the insurance.

Amazing how everyone always seem to think that everyone other person in this country is going to steal their guns at every opportunity - it just isn't true.

Not declaring is like trying to sidestep UPS on a handgun and then trying to file a claim if something goes wrong - do you really want to explain to a cop or insurance adjustor why you lied on their form and then tried to make a claim?

Get over it - those folks have one thing in mind, getting your stuff from A to B so they can get to the next job and make a living

NavyLCDR
May 30, 2012, 10:21 PM
Wrong thing to do

Yep, absolutely the wrong thing to do. Declare the guns and buy the extra insurance.

Owen Sparks
May 30, 2012, 10:39 PM
What percentage of moving vans crash and burn?

Frank Ettin
May 30, 2012, 10:57 PM
What percentage of moving vans crash and burn? Probably not many. And if you have the financial means to self insure and bear the loss if it happens, by all means go for it.

But in general, the available moving insurance can provide a lot of peace of mind for a relatively modest cost.

oneounceload
May 31, 2012, 04:37 PM
What percentage of moving vans crash and burn?

We have had a few, along with Fedex and UPS trucks crash and burn here in FL over the last several years. Even if it gets stolen, or the goods get damaged in temporary storage, if you don't declare, you get nothing. The insurance for full replacement is a whole lot better than the pennies per pound normal amount

swiftak
June 22, 2012, 05:06 PM
Why don't you just put them in the trunk and head for gun heaven?

Double_J
June 22, 2012, 05:29 PM
I know for a fact that Graebel moving company WILL NOT ship ammunition nor handguns. they have no problem with long guns, but they will shortchange you BADLY if you make a claim. I had a single golf club stolen, value of $250, but as I bought it at a yard sale and did not have a reciept I only got $150 for it. This is on top of the hassle of them screwing up the move dates. My opinion is to load them into your vehicle and move them yourself.

valnar
June 23, 2012, 12:18 PM
I don't understand why you would even let them know. Box 'em up and as far as they know, it's kitchen stuff. As long as you aren't moving a safe, they'll never figure it out. As for (very heavy) ammo, I'd just move it yourself in your car.


Is there a law that declares you have to tell the moving company everything you are moving? Like number of dishes, silverware, clothes, etc?

brickeyee
June 23, 2012, 02:16 PM
Is there a law that declares you have to tell the moving company everything you are moving? Like number of dishes, silverware, clothes, etc?

If you want more than pennies on the pound if it is lost, stolen, danged, etc. the insurance contract requires you to declare.

oneounceload
June 23, 2012, 08:25 PM
Absolutely AMAZING how many folks have NO idea what reality is when it comes to moving things - all these comments about "don't tell them:", "just hide it", etc. is flat out WRONG, and just plain STUPID, and encouraging folks to violate tariffs and laws to do so is as stupid.,

These folks are NOT out to steal your guns - all they want to do is move a load from A to B and then go to the next one

Get a grip

Hugo
June 24, 2012, 09:13 AM
I would strongly consider moving your firearms yourself (check with your homeowners/car insurance on this in case your car gets stolen). This way you know where they are. Some moving companies have surprisingly sticky fingers on some boxes. As a kid I lost some toys when the jerks at a company with a orange truck swiped a few of my boxes, and my parents lost some things too.

Moving companies mostly are crooked, though some are good.
The moving industry is shockingly badly regulated thanks to it's interstate, multi-state nature. Check the reviews very carefully. I think John Stossel or some other investigative reporter did a news story for ABC, CBS, FOX, or NBC on this within the last 10-12 years or so.

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