[BBDartCA]

Architect Paul Kersey getting ready for STHTF.

[Kevin Rohrer]

And don't forget Reba McEntire tumbling brass in a Dillon tumbler in Tremors (1990).

[wankerjake]

Haha, when I saw the title the first thing I thought of was Paul Kersey saying something like "nothing is too good for our friends" as he handloads.

I think old Quigley loads some bullets when he goes to town right? I need to watch that movie again.

[LeonCarr]

You can see an RCBS Rockchucker in the back room of Ben Johnson's house in the movie Red Dawn.

WOLVERINES!

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

[Walkalong]

Lets stick to the reloading part. We don't do movies.

[cfullgraf]

I think old Quigley loads some bullets when he goes to town right? I need to watch that movie again.

Actually, Quigley gives his empty cases to the store owner and tells the store owner what to use.

But, I am sure Quigley loaded them up before he got on the boat to Austrailia.

[bds]

Lets stick to the reloading part. We don't do movies.
Do you know if THR admins considered opening an "other" category for SHTF, Zombie apocalypse, Movies, etc. threads?

This way such threads/posts could be isolated to "fully disclaimered" category to keep the rest of THR categories "on track".

Just a thought ... :D

[dmazur]

There's a "General Gun Discussions" area where I've followed quite a few threads about guns in movies. This seems to be a relatively "laid-back" area.

Personally, I'm quite happy that SHTF and Zombie discussions are encouraged to move to other venues. And there is no shortage.

Disclaimers or not, I'm not sure how these topics could be consistent with the objectives of The High Road. :)

(On the other hand, I just may be misinformed.)

[GLOOB]

The only one i remember is Jaws 2. Where the sheriff is loading 357 jhp. And he seals cyanide in the tips with candle wax.

[dmazur]

There was the character who took Steve McQueen under his wing and taught him how to shoot (Jonas Cord) in "Nevada Smith". I seem to remember something about reloading and the value of brass during practice.

Then there was the gunsmith in "Hannie Caulder", who apparently reloaded his ammunition. I can't remember seeing any hand presses, so the references were indirect. (Probably doesn't count if you can't see the equipment.)

Not a lot of reloading equipment shown in the movies, AFAIK.

[buckbrush]

Stephen Segal loads on a Dillon 550 in one of his movies, the bad guys are Jamaicans as I recall.

[mustanger98]

In "Quigley Down Under", Quigley told the store owner to use a .452 British musket lead. I don't know about this projectile to know how it'd do, but that movie got me studying more on the Sharps. I know .45-70 uses .458-.459, but I'm not looking at a manual to tell what size .45-110 uses. That said, I understand Tom Selleck is a stickler for authenticity.

In "Nevada Smith", Jonas Cord was played by Brian Keith. In the reloading scene, Cord was using a dipper to measure/dispense what would have been black powder. This is incorrect... to load BP requires brass drop tubes. It's not like I do loading some of my revolver stuff with smokeless. That scene was more about creating an impression and not to be a how-to.

[Tophernj]

What about "Taxi Driver" with DeNiro where he makes up his own hollowpoints?

C

[Steel Horse Rider]

One can be offended at almost anything if one sets one's mind to it.....

[Uniquedot]

Wow a moderator comes along in post #5 and says

Lets stick to the reloading part. We don't do movies.

and yet here we are ten posts later. :scrutiny:

[dmazur]

Well, we seem to be discussing handloading in the movies. So does it belong in "Handloading and Reloading" or some other area?

Maybe we're OK as long as the discussion doesn't degenerate into an IMDb link contest, with very little reference to reloading... :)

[Uniquedot]

Well, we seem to be discussing handloading in the movies. So does it belong in "Handloading and Reloading" or some other area?

Maybe we're OK as long as the discussion doesn't degenerate into an IMDb link contest, with very little reference to reloading

Well i think the mods point is that we are here to help others and get answers to questions pertaining to reloading. Reloading in the movies is a fictional subject that does nothing to answer our reloading questions.

[higgite]

If the thread hasn't been moved or locked by this time, what's the problem?

Back on point, didn't Clooney modify some bullets in The American? Been a while since I watched it.

[dmazur]

And then there were the somewhat unlikely explosive bullets made for Edward Fox ("The Day of The Jackal") and his fictional attempt on Charles DeGaulle?

I suppose the instructional message in this whole discussion might be that

1. There are very few accurate references to reloading procedures in the movies.
2. There is quite a bit of artistic license taken, in the idea of making the story seem more dramatic (without confusing the viewer with facts.)

So, if you see anything in the movies that involves reloading, for heaven's sake don't try to duplicate it! It is more than likely Hollywood BS.

I'm reminded of the Mythbusters warnings to viewers, explained in the Wikipedia article on "Mythbusters" -

MythBusters places a strong emphasis on viewer safety due to the nature of the myths tested which often involve purported household scenarios. All episodes begin with a disclaimer against attempting the experiments seen on the series; most episodes also feature a second warning halfway through the running time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters

(I got a kick out of this statement: These disclaimers are not broadcast on Discovery UK, on SBS in Australia, in the Netherlands, Discovery Mix in Sweden, or on the Prime and Sky Discovery Channels in New Zealand. So only the US is so crazy about liability? Interesting.)

[wankerjake]

Does casting count? In The Patriot, Mel Gibson melts down his son's lead figures and casts balls from them.

[IMtheNRA]

In the movie, "Things to do in Denver when you're dead", Critical Bill's dumpy apartment is full of reloading equipment.

[Lost Sheep]

In "Nevada Smith", Jonas Cord was played by Brian Keith. In the reloading scene, Cord was using a dipper to measure/dispense what would have been black powder. This is incorrect... to load BP requires brass drop tubes. It's not like I do loading some of my revolver stuff with smokeless. That scene was more about creating an impression and not to be a how-to.
I am not familiar with all the finer points of loading black powder, but why are drop tubes necessary? Wouldn't "settling" the powder in the case do just as well?

Lost Sheep

[Cosmoline]

I remember some handloading in the film "Shot Through the Heart" about snipers in the Yugoslavian breakup.

It's real rare though. Sort of speaks to how obscure the practice of handloading actually is. The "making your own hollowpoint" meme is way more common than actual, real handloading. I also remember some shows showing characters making an "X" on a lead bullet point, presumably to help it expand. And there's a reference along those lines in "Breaker Morant," too.

to load BP requires brass drop tubes

Well we use them because we're trying to compress the powder consistently and get maximum accuracy for BPCR. But they're not truly necessary. A rough and tumble handloader on the trail could certainly dump some BP in there and cram down a round on top of it.

[henry-ctc]

Don´t forget that Rick Grimes collects his empty brass after reloading his Python in The Walking Dead.

[earlthegoat2]

In "Next of Kin" Liam Neeson's character loads up some kind of homemade shot into 38 Special cases using an Original Lee Loader.

[MW3840]

Wasn't there a western where Brian Keith and Robert Preston are sitting around the campfire loading shells?

[Uniquedot]

If the thread hasn't been moved or locked by this time, what's the problem?

One of my problems with it is that it is never done correctly in a movie because movies are fictional and my other problem is the majority of the actor's in these films portray such roles to put a few extra million in their bank accounts while using much of that money to support the anti's in disarming civilians in real life.

didn't Clooney modify some bullets in The American?

Here is one such example.

[Lost Sheep]

I suspect that the thread hasn't been moved because there is no place to move it to and that it hasn't been closed because it is fun and no one is being mean. Besides, I learned something about black powder loading.


Don´t forget that Rick Grimes collects his empty brass after reloading his Python in The Walking Dead.
I have missed that (those) scene(s). (Though I do have the entire series recorded.) I even joined the AMC group just so I could ask the question of why no one seemed to be saving their brass (or loading). Surely they will run out of abandoned gun stores (which would have been sold out quickly anyway) some day?

We should count our blessings. "The Walking Dead", at least, has never shown Grimes shooting a 7th round out of his Colt Python.

Didn't the imminently forgettable movie "White Buffalo" have some scenes around the camp, loading bullets?

Lost Sheep

[joecil]

I also count loading cap and ball pistols as hand loading which brings to mind the Quick and the Dead movie. The Swedish shooting champion with a LeMat Revolver. http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/LeMat_Revolver There was a sequence in the movie of him loading this thing which was a pretty interesting scene to watch.

[Bush Pilot]

Wasn't there a scene where the coyote was loading ammo on a Dillon while working on his next scheme to get the road runner? Sorry, that was a cartoon, meep meep.

[10 Spot Terminator]

Burt Lancaster in the movie "Valdez is Coming" loaded his special ammo for an old Sharps and was dumping the bad guys out of their saddles at near a thousand yards . He was using crossed shooting sticks too. Would love to find that movie and see it again. As for Quigley his custom bullets were heavy for calibre, had to be custom sized and was "paper patching" them as has recently becoming the rage with cast bullet long range match shooters. Wonder who loaded the Lone Rangers silver bullets ???

10 Spot

[Fishslayer]

Saw a Paladin episode with a guy custom loading Paladin's ammo with some kind of newfangled "smokeless powder." Only the finest for a professional soldier of fortune. IIRC Paladin didn't have time to wait & the loader was apalled that Paladin would make do with commercial black powder ammo.:barf:

Don't recall the western but the heros were holed up in a farmhouse & spent their time between indian attacks reloading their brass.

[carbuncle]

Sons of Anarchy has a subplot where a group on a local Native American reservation is making ammo with a bunch of presses in a trailer. SAMCRO get them to provide ammo for their business venture.

[henry-ctc]

It´s the scene wich takes place at the bar where he and Glenn have gone looking for Hershel, after the fight in wich they kill two survivors from other group. At that time it was more likely to find someones reloading gear than finding a plenty of ammo gunshop.
If I were killed and any survivor reached my house he would be very pleased finding a model 70 Winchester in 7MM RM, a Browning shotgun, a 22 Rem semi auto carbine, a Glock with 7 mags, a CZ75, a 6" 357 Mag and a couple of .22 semi pistols.
Plenty of ammo and components. Only problem is I only use a single stage press.
Anyway I hope to survive in that stage.... at least for a while.

[Cosmoline]

OK, I found another one. In the classic Jean-Pierre Melville 1970 crime drama "Le Cercle Rouge," (a heist movie) one of the thieves handloads bullets for a very small parlor rifle which he then uses to shoot into a key hole across a bunch of motion detector beams and short-circuit the key to the alarm system.

Afterwards one of the other thieves asks about the composition, and is told it's simply lead, antimony and tin. He explains he adjusted the mix so the round would move 65 feet across the room and still be a little hot from firing, to meld properly with the tumblers and push them up. LOL I doubt the possibility of it, but it still constitutes one of the longest discussions of handloading in any major film.

[mastiffhound]

Punisher: War Zone, Frank Castle is handloading on a single stage what looks .357 magnum. We all know The Punisher loads his rounds +P!

[Crashbox]

Wasn't there a scene where the coyote was loading ammo on a Dillon while working on his next scheme to get the road runner? Sorry, that was a cartoon, meep meep.

It was actually an ACME Lightning Loader which used a heavily-sprung plunger to install the primers...

[Ditchtiger]

I remember an old Bugs Bunny cartoon that has Daffy Duck trying to load a muzzle loader. No matter in what order the components were loaded the shotgun always went off in Daffy's face.
Broadcast TV 35-40 years ago, not likely to ever see that again.

[JSmith]

Lets stick to the reloading part. We don't do movies.

I sure don't. I haven't watched a movie in probably 20 years.

[DoubleSawbuck]

At first I thought this was about reloading at the movies...

[Lost Sheep]

OK, I found another one. In the classic Jean-Pierre Melville 1970 crime drama "Le Cercle Rouge," (a heist movie) one of the thieves handloads bullets for a very small parlor rifle which he then uses to shoot into a key hole across a bunch of motion detector beams and short-circuit the key to the alarm system.

Afterwards one of the other thieves asks about the composition, and is told it's simply lead, antimony and tin. He explains he adjusted the mix so the round would move 65 feet across the room and still be a little hot from firing, to meld properly with the tumblers and push them up. LOL I doubt the possibility of it, but it still constitutes one of the longest discussions of handloading in any major film.
We all know that reloading allows one to tailor ammunition to a specific purpose. But that is customization to the nth degree.

[joecil]

I've loaded black powder in shot shells and 45 colt using dippers with no drop tubes always. Never owned a drop tube of any kind other than my Lee Pro with and extension tube used on a Classic turret. In the 1800 most ammo was loaded with dedicated hand tools, no presses other than something that resembled a pair of strange pliers and dippers often home made for shell casings. Even the Winchester sold a hand load kit for their Winchester rifles that cost about $5 set up to load their rifles.

[hang fire]

The "Last Hunt" with Robert Taylor and Stewart Granger, was about buffalo hunters.