S&W M&P 45 trigger pull?


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Balrog
June 10, 2012, 05:14 PM
What is the trigger pull like on the S&W M&P 45? Is it like more like a Glock or more like a tradition DA?

Has anyone ever measured the trigger pull with a scale?

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Balrog
June 10, 2012, 09:57 PM
no one?

David E
June 10, 2012, 10:05 PM
More like a Glock, but I'd do an Apex job on it. You can make it more like a 1911 than a Glock.

Smith357
June 10, 2012, 10:09 PM
My 45M&P's trigger is nothing special, it's a basic two stage trigger with the second stage being a bit mushy. But then it's a plastic combat pistol and I have yet to feel any plastic striker fired gun that uses stamped sheet metal innards that feels anywhere near as fine as a Colt or S&W Revolver It's been 20 years since I fired a Glock, I just remember hating Glock triggers, but then at the time I hated everything about the cheap plastic guns.

bds
June 10, 2012, 10:57 PM
S&W website claims 7 lbs for M&P45 trigger pull - http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_765773_-1_757782_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

S&W is currently changing the triggers on the M&P line and I anticipate the new triggers will be more like around 4.5 lbs (but that's my guess) - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7977264#post7977264

Mark Dix
(413) 433-0619
Email: mdix@smith-wesson.com
Fax: (719) 213-2261

We are in fact coming out with a cleaner, crisper trigger for the M&P pistols. The initial offering will be for the smaller calibers first- 9mm, .40, and .357Sig. The time line for a full scale production is slated for April/ May. This new trigger should be the standard for the M&Ps come summer. The reset is shorter, crisper, and smoother with none of the ďfalse resetí that some of the pistols have now.

The only fly in the ointment for you is we havenít been told when the trigger will be available for the .45, as that will require additional testing as the .45 doesnít share parts with the other calibers. We havenít been provided pricing yet for retro-fitting current guns. This system will only be offered for pistols that have or can be setup with the thumb safety. If your .45 has a thumb safety, it will easily convert to the new trigger when it becomes available for the .45.

I hope this helps. I realize it doesnít answer the two most important questions- when available and how much- but know itís coming.

mooney1el
June 11, 2012, 08:51 AM
My early production M&P 45FS trigger measured right at 6.6 lbs but was very gritty and the reset was hardly felt. I installed an Apex DCAEK in stages. Installing the USB portion did not lower the pull but did get rid of the grittiness. Installing the rest of the kit brought the pull down to a consistent 5 lbs with a crisp break. As expected, it did not improve the weak reset.

Richard

David E
June 11, 2012, 09:31 AM
The reset proper isn't weak, it's just sometimes difficult to detect.

Apex makes an item, the RAM (Reset Assist Module, iirc) that makes the reset more discernible.

The new S&W trigger also addresses the reset issue.

jmr40
June 11, 2012, 09:32 AM
It is Glock like, but I found the S&W to be mushy feeling. The Glock, while a little heavy is very crisp.

The Lone Haranguer
June 11, 2012, 12:58 PM
Is it like more like a Glock or more like a tradition DA?

Much closer to the former than the latter. The pull is spec'd at ~6.5 lbs, but I have never actually measured it.

Dean1818
June 11, 2012, 01:49 PM
The m&p 45 trigger will improve greatly just by shooting it

It will go from gritty to "ok"

I did the burwellDIY job and it went from ok to very good


Its not supposed to be a 1911

Taroman
June 11, 2012, 01:53 PM
Not as good as a Glock.
Added an Apex kit.
Still lousy trigger.
Traded the gun off and was glad to be rid of it.

fastbolt
June 11, 2012, 02:05 PM
My '08 production M&P 45 came with a trigger on the heavy end of the acceptable tolerance range (which is +/- 2 lbs, according to specs in the armorer manuals and what we were told in the armorer class). In other words, mine was producing averages in 8 1/2 - 9lbs range, instead of 7 lbs. The trigger 'break' was consistent and fine, but the take up was a bit rough & gritty. It was still good enough to let me wring some excellent practical accuracy from the gun from the first few mag loads.

Somewhere between 2000 - 2,500 rounds I checked it again, as it felt much better. I got some averages in the 5 1/2 lb range. I checked the same model belonging to someone else, a new gun with APEX parts installed, and that gun produced averages in the 4 3/4 - 5 lbs range.

Then, I installed the new sear housing (larger sear plunger & spring) and my trigger pull averages went up to about 7 1/2+ lbs. It's become smoother again, but I haven't checked the weight after another thousand or so rounds.

I don't pay much attention to the sear "reset", since I shoot to trigger recovery, rather than "trigger reset". I shoot a number of different pistols, as well as DA/DAO revolvers, so becoming set on just one "reset" on one specific handgun isn't practical for me.

It seems enough potential new owners have been expressing a desire for a sear reset that's more noticeable than the soft, non-distracting one originally developed by the S&W engineers, though. I've been told the company has been working on refining the M&P trigger for a while, and the new trigger revision is probably going to be more to their liking, I'd imagine ... (although you'll never be able to please everyone. ;) ).

I'm curious to see how the M&P's being produced this summer are going to be regarding the triggers. I've heard some good things about the newly developed "tactical trigger" for the M&P, and I'm interested in seeing it for myself (and seeing what it will take in the way of parts/assemblies to retrofit my existing M&P's).

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