GA airport carry?


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wannabeagunsmith
June 12, 2012, 04:41 PM
Is there any law that says you can or can't carry a firearm on a small airport? I would assume you could, and obviously I am too young but for future refrance I would like to know..

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hso
June 12, 2012, 04:45 PM
Define "small airport".

YankeeFlyr
June 12, 2012, 04:54 PM
GA means "General Aviation"...an civil airport without scheduled air carrier service. Think York, PA instead of Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International.

GA airports may be mostly private operations like recreational flying, business jets, charter operations and the like.

(I'm a pilot and flight instructor.)

wannabeagunsmith
June 12, 2012, 05:19 PM
What he said. Another, rather famous example is the Chicago Meigs field which that _ Mayor Daley closed.

SleazyRider
June 12, 2012, 05:36 PM
No law that I'm aware of, at least in New York State; in fact, my carry permit is unrestricted because I fly in and out of a lot of small GA airports where there is no security in place. I would not, however, land at an airport in New Jersey where state law prohibits handguns.

I've oftentimes wondered about flying from New York to Pennsylvania (I can carry in both states) and going through New Jersey's airspace. Presumably, the rules for ground transit apply, that is, the pistol should be cased and locked, with ammo stored elsewhere.

NavyLCDR
June 12, 2012, 05:41 PM
Is there any law that says you can or can't carry a firearm on a small airport? I would assume you could, and obviously I am too young but for future refrance I would like to know..
Depends entirely upon state law, so you would have to tell us what state you are asking about to receiving an answer with any accuracy at all.

In Washington state I can and have carried openly without a licesne, or concealed with a license, right up to the entrance to the passenger screening area of commercial airports such as Seattle Tacoma International Airport.

smalls
June 12, 2012, 05:50 PM
Federally you're good to go, as long as there is no "sterile" area.

But, I wonder what would happen if you had to have an emergency landing in an unfriendly state, like New York?

NavyLCDR
June 12, 2012, 06:49 PM
Federally you're good to go, as long as there is no "sterile" area.

Did you mean to say so long as you are not IN a "sterile" area? It's perfectly legal at the Federal level to carry in airports that have "sterile" areas up until the point you present your boarding pass for the first time to get into the screening line.

Drail
June 12, 2012, 07:17 PM
You really need to check with the authority which operates the airport in question. Many airports have different "rules" on firearms. I know of at least one which has signs posted at every door saying it is illegal and you will be prosecuted but a search has turned up no law stating it is illegal. It's kind of like going to Wallymart.

smalls
June 12, 2012, 08:17 PM
Yes, Navy, sorry for the confusion.

wannabeagunsmith
June 12, 2012, 09:07 PM
Depends entirely upon state law, so you would have to tell us what state you are asking about to receiving an answer with any accuracy at all.

In Washington state I can and have carried openly without a licesne, or concealed with a license, right up to the entrance to the passenger screening area of commercial airports such as Seattle Tacoma International Airport.

Well I happen to live in WA as a matter f fact. My reason for asking is I am looking into a future job a a fedex Cessna Caravan pilot.

mgkdrgn
June 12, 2012, 09:10 PM
What he said. Another, rather famous example is the Chicago Meigs field which that _ Mayor Daley closed.
He didn't close it ... he simply made the runways unusable ... between midnight and 6 am, with aircraft still there on the ground ... and the FAA staff manning the tower.

But he didn't "close" the airport ... he didn't have the "power" to do that .. and besides, they had promised the FAA/Federal government they would keep it open for 20 years when they took their improvement money.

YankeeFlyr
June 13, 2012, 12:11 AM
There is no Federal Aviation Regulation under Part 91 (General Operating Rules) that prohibits weapons on aircraft. Operations conducted solely under that Part may have weapons on board unless the pilot in command prohibits it.

On the other hand, scheduled air carriers operate under Part 91 AS WELL AS other Parts of the FARs, so if you're not flying "privately" then it's a different matter (not just the specific air carrier's corporate regs).

I've never been any place on a GA facility where possession of a firearm was illegal prima facia.

mgmorden
June 13, 2012, 12:39 AM
He didn't close it ... he simply made the runways unusable ... between midnight and 6 am, with aircraft still there on the ground ... and the FAA staff manning the tower.

But he didn't "close" the airport ... he didn't have the "power" to do that .. and besides, they had promised the FAA/Federal government they would keep it open for 20 years when they took their improvement money.

He dug X-shaped trenches into the runway, which is the symbol used to signify a closed airport (though usually the X's are PAINTED on, rather than dug into the actual surface).

Regardless - though I've never flown in that area and never intend to, I still consider him a terrible example of a human being. After the airport was demolished he turned it into a park that he named after his wife . . .

In any event, you probably want to check state law, but there's nothing Federal. I know a lot of planes that travel in Alaska and such carry not only weapons during hunting trips, but also often have a survival rifle onboard.

NavyLCDR
June 13, 2012, 11:02 AM
Well I happen to live in WA as a matter f fact. My reason for asking is I am looking into a future job a a fedex Cessna Caravan pilot.
I guarantee you with 99% certainty that FEDEX will not allow you to carry on the job as a matter of terms of employment.

TenDriver
June 13, 2012, 01:21 PM
No law that I'm aware of, at least in New York State; in fact, my carry permit is unrestricted because I fly in and out of a lot of small GA airports where there is no security in place. I would not, however, land at an airport in New Jersey where state law prohibits handguns.

I've oftentimes wondered about flying from New York to Pennsylvania (I can carry in both states) and going through New Jersey's airspace. Presumably, the rules for ground transit apply, that is, the pistol should be cased and locked, with ammo stored elsewhere.
Might get pulled over while flying over NJ.:D

It would suck to have an emergency, divert to an airport in NJ, and face arrest as you're unloading your stuff while giving your info to the cops.

Pilot
June 13, 2012, 01:44 PM
I own and operate a General Aviation aircraft, (piston single) out of a non-towered airport with no airline operations. The FAA does not regulate guns at small aiports without airlne traffic. The aiports with commercial airline operations have restricted areas where nobody but personnel connected with airline ops, that are properly badged can go. You do also have to be mindful of local and state laws where the airport is located.

You can carry a gun into the terminal of a commercial airport as long as the state and local laws allow it, but can not pass security with the gun.

Pilot
June 13, 2012, 01:47 PM
(I'm a pilot and flight instructor.)

But, you also unfortunately live in MD, so you can't carry a gun even at Essex, or Lee-Annapolis, etc due to the state gun laws.

Are you based at KBWI?


It would suck to have an emergency, divert to an airport in NJ, and face arrest as you're unloading your stuff while giving your info to the cops.

This is no joke. I leave my gun at home if I know I'm going to be landing in NJ or other states with very restrictive gun laws. And you are correct, if you need to divert for any reason to a state or local jurisdiction that does not allow gun possesion, and you get caught with it you are screwed.

TenDriver
June 13, 2012, 02:23 PM
I realize it's not exactly germane to the question, but there is a security checkpoint set up TSA style at Signature - Boston. They will notify the police when a firearm is brought through. Wouldn't be an issue in most places, but Mass isn't most places. I've also seen TSA screening in other FBO's, Nashville comes to mind. Made me wonder exactly what they would do if they found a weapon given they aren't prohibited in the non-SIDA area.

To the OP, I'm betting Empire prohibits weapons on company property. Don't piss away a career over it. The first captain I flew with after IOE at Piedmont is looking at a weapons charge right now. Even if he gets a slap on the wrist through the legal system, he violated company policy and will likely be terminated. He's a very good guy in a bad spot. Don't willingly put yourself there.

wannabeagunsmith
June 14, 2012, 01:11 PM
He dug X-shaped trenches into the runway, which is the symbol used to signify a closed airport (though usually the X's are PAINTED on, rather than dug into the actual surface).

Regardless - though I've never flown in that area and never intend to, I still consider him a terrible example of a human being. After the airport was demolished he turned it into a park that he named after his wife . . .

In any event, you probably want to check state law, but there's nothing Federal. I know a lot of planes that travel in Alaska and such carry not only weapons during hunting trips, but also often have a survival rifle onboard.
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More or less what I meant to say :)


To the OP, I'm betting Empire prohibits weapons on company property. Don't piss away a career over it. The first captain I flew with after IOE at Piedmont is looking at a weapons charge right now. Even if he gets a slap on the wrist through the legal system, he violated company policy and will likely be terminated. He's a very good guy in a bad spot. Don't willingly put yourself there.

That is a good point. This Saturday I have flying lessons someone there might have more info on that; a lot of them used to fly for empire. Sucks that the TSA wants to put up checkpoints at small airports hopefully that idea will be shot down.

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