Sacrilegious to shorten a Ruger Old Army?


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Tallbald
June 14, 2012, 12:17 AM
OK. I have three beautiful ROAs, all stainless adjustable sight 7.5 inch models. Really would love to have a shorter barrel version, but as most who follow pricing know, the shorter barrel fixed sight versions are considerably higher priced. Given there are so many of my version ROAs out there, or another could be bought for $425 or so, would it be a gun sin to bob the barrel/lever/etc on a garden variety ROA to make the short one I'd like to have? I guess I'm looking for support. Don

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arcticap
June 14, 2012, 12:41 AM
The barrel is replaceable. TAURUSBOB had his work done by Clements Custom Gun, the same outfit that makes the .50 conversion.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=7351196&postcount=358

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=7433291&postcount=378

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=7268331&postcount=17

junkman_01
June 14, 2012, 11:09 AM
OK. I have three beautiful ROAs, all stainless adjustable sight 7.5 inch models. Really would love to have a shorter barrel version, but as most who follow pricing know, the shorter barrel fixed sight versions are considerably higher priced. Given there are so many of my version ROAs out there, or another could be bought for $425 or so, would it be a gun sin to bob the barrel/lever/etc on a garden variety ROA to make the short one I'd like to have? I guess I'm looking for support. Don
Absolutely no sin involved. It's your gun. Fix it up anyway you want to, and enjoy it.

Lunie
June 14, 2012, 11:17 AM
It's only a Ruger Old Army. :p :evil:

CraigC
June 14, 2012, 11:19 AM
It's your gun to do as you wish with it. IMHO, very little in the gun world is sacred and I have no issue with making one my own in any way I see fit. The collectors and purists can find their own.

NCWanderer
June 14, 2012, 11:29 AM
What I would do is buy a barrel and loading lever and cut them down to whatever length you desire and then just swap them out. That way you could always convert it back to the way it came from the factory and everything would be original. That's just me. Guess I'm a strange one though.
Anyway good luck with your project. Looking forward to seeing the results.

JEB
June 14, 2012, 11:40 AM
its your gun. i say do with it what you want so long as you enjoy it!

CraigC
June 14, 2012, 11:47 AM
That way you could always convert it back to the way it came from the factory and everything would be original.
This is false economy. You'll spend way more that way, on both ends, than you'll ever make back selling it as factory original.

NCWanderer
June 14, 2012, 11:54 AM
Told you I'm a strange one. I just like to keep some things original if I can.:D

Prairie Dawg
June 14, 2012, 02:30 PM
I say............................Shorten It!!!!!:D

http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/baby_ROA.jpg

--Dawg:cool:

ZVP
June 14, 2012, 06:57 PM
Any decent custom work on a BP revolver is worth it as not many customs survived to this day.
The ROA is probablly the coolest of the lot as it is the best made BP revolver ever!
I say do the deed and enjoy it!
ZVP

351 WINCHESTER
June 14, 2012, 07:46 PM
It can only improve it's balance.

Jaymo
June 14, 2012, 07:50 PM
I say, go for it. If I find another ROA for a decent price, I'm gonna chop it into a snub.

Prairie Dawg, I like your ROA snub. Please elaborate on the grips, cylinder pin, and filler pin.

Prairie Dawg
June 14, 2012, 09:43 PM
Gripframe was custom cut by the machinist who cut the barrel.
Grips were made by Tru-ivory.
Cylinder pin is by Belt Mountain.
Filler pin was designed by the machinist who did the gun. If you look closely, you will see two little pins sticking out the back.
The idea was that you can turn the cylinder pin screw with these -- a built-in screwdriver.
In reality, it falls out when I shoot the gun, so I mostly leave it out nowadays.
That's an R & D conversion cylinder in 45 Colt.
The front sight is a silver coin, but the machinist was too zealous in his finishing work and buffed out all the coin features.
The holster is by Kirkpatrick Leather.
Very cool little gun.

Course, I have the opposite too:
Custom work by Rowdy Yates......

http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/ROAs.jpg

Too Much Fun!
--Dawg

Prairie Dawg
June 14, 2012, 09:47 PM
Here's a pic of the buntline ROAs in action:

http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/prairiedawgsbuntlinebelchingsmoke&flame.jpg

--Dawg

4v50 Gary
June 15, 2012, 12:08 AM
Prairie Dawg - you have literally covered the long and the short of it.

Tallbald
June 15, 2012, 12:54 AM
You all are a great and supportive inspiration to me. I guess maybe some of you have experienced the same concerns I have about radically altering a gun that is out of production. I remember though the first time I decided to trim the grip frame on a Single Six of mine, and to drill and tap for lanyard rings on my SBH, BH and two of my ROAs. I remember thinking "these are mine and I'll do as I want!". Kind of a good feeling to tell myself that. Don.

kBob
June 15, 2012, 12:55 PM
P. Dawg,

Great oogly moogleys! All of Ned's heros would be jealous of them long tall ROAs!

Do the SASS folks make you take a handy cap for having the muzzle so much closer to the targets than anyone else? ;-)

-kBob

kBob
June 15, 2012, 12:58 PM
Tallbald,

OK I have to see the laynyard ring guns. What lanyard rings did you use and where did you get them from?

-kBob

Tallbald
June 15, 2012, 02:47 PM
Actually kBob I made them myself from a stainless steel bolt on my little metal bench lathe. I thread them 5/16-24 and drill/tap the butt of the frame, or sometimes drill and cross-pin them into a drilled corresponding hole in the butt of the grip. The ring part is a nickel plated d-ring opened up slightly, then closed into a cross drilled hole in the lanyard stud. You can see one example at post number 75 on the Ruger Old Army club thread on this forum. Don.

AJumbo
June 15, 2012, 09:38 PM
P-Dawg's Avenging Old Army is the coolest thing I've seen in weeks!

dprice3844444
June 19, 2012, 07:56 AM
dawg,training wheels extra?

Jim, West PA
June 19, 2012, 03:41 PM
The only thing that i can think of as bein sacriligeopus about ROA's is not ownin one, er two, er three, er..........

+1 on P-dawgs Avenger, That thing is so sweet i think i git a cavity every tme i look at it.

Indian Outlaw
June 19, 2012, 07:19 PM
I do what I want with my own guns. Some people don't like what I do, but their opinions don't affect me. For example, I did something "sacrilegious" to the rosewood grips on my mint, and newly purchased, Ruger Old Army. But they look better to me now, and that's all that really matters.

foghornl
June 21, 2012, 09:08 PM
Paraie Dawg....how in the cornbread he77 do you load that snubby?

Lunie
June 21, 2012, 10:53 PM
The only thing that i can think of as bein sacriligeopus about ROA's is not ownin one, er two, er three, er..........


I must be apostate; sundered from the Cult of the ROA by excommunication. :eek:

I don't plan to ever own one, which should leave a few extra for you loonies to own or customize as you will. :neener:

(You never know, I might be converted at some point. I'm just not impressed with them, especially after all the hype I've heard/read.)

Needles
June 22, 2012, 02:18 AM
Shortening the barrel on a ROA? Nahh... that's not sacrilegious. It's your gun, and, like Bruce Lee used to say, "Use whatever works."

Now, that guy in Colorado that buys Vincent motorcycles from all over the world, chops them up and turns them into cafe racers? THAT'S sacrilegious! (Though they're not bad looking cafe racers!)

tallpaul
June 22, 2012, 07:10 AM
I guess I am lucky. I grew up shootin bullseye and all sorsts of choppin,filing,welding drilling etc was normal. Taking an expensive gun to start with and cutting on it was hard at first... it gets easy when ya see results! I have chopped all sorts of stuff or had smiths do and they shake their heads... until we are done. Some folks have no vision!

I say go for it!

Riot Earp
June 24, 2012, 11:58 AM
I don't plan to ever own one, which should leave a few extra for you loonies to own or customize as you will.

Wow.

Jaymo
June 24, 2012, 01:16 PM
More for us, Lunie. I have no problem with your lack of love for the ROA.
I love mine and would like a few more.
I like old Fords and Mopars, and don't care if anyone else does or not.
If we all liked the same things, the world would be boring.

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